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Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals

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It will be a perfect world for me if:
Kentucky beats Georgia.
West Virginia beats Texas.
Northwestern beats Notre Dame.

Then I will get so great a high higher than Willie Nelson gets if Kentucky wins the SEC, West Virginia wins the Big 12 and Northwestern wins the Big 10.

I’ll laugh my *** off as the ESPN experts try to explain it. And the playoff committee tries to deal with it.

We need new blood! This is it! And it’s mathematically possible.

After all the most predictable thing about college football is unpredictability. What could be more unpredictable than Northwestern, West Virginia and Kentucky in the Football Final Four?

That would turn the college football world upside-down.

Go for it, UK, NW, WVU !!!! The nation needs this insanity to restore our sanity in these times.
 
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Actually Northwestern played in a Rose Bowl in the 90's against USC that had very high ratings.
Northwestern brings Chicago and a back story because a lot of sports media went to school at Northwestern.

But they loss to Akron and will not get in.

If you want to go to 4 Conferences and 4 seats than there might not be a seat for WV in any conference
 
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WVU_Dave

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TownesVanZandt said:
Actually Northwestern played in a Rose Bowl in the 90's against USC that had very high ratings.
Northwestern brings Chicago and a back story because a lot of sports media went to school at Northwestern.

But they loss to Akron and will not get in.

If you want to go to 4 Conferences and 4 seats than there might not be a seat for WV in any conference
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Agreed. Pretty sure the committee already proved a conference championship is not required to make the playoff.
 
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Committee changes its reasons for its selections every year. Like college football, unpredictability is the committee's most predictable quality.

Central Florida over WVU, Kentucky and Penn State? Really? Who would put money on UCF going 3-0 against those teams.

And Notre Dame, other than Michigan, plays a pansy schedule that would be dissed if WVU played those teams.

Double standards all over the place.

WVU just needs to win out, win the Big 12 title and the my alma mater would have a resume that would be hard to keep them out of the Football Final Four.

Remember, there will be ONE or NO unbeaten teams in the Football Final Four. History tells us that. So a 1-loss WVU will have the credentials to join the big party.


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O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17

U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence

N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6

T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34

A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22

I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30

N ailed Baylor, 58-14

E liminate Texas from first place in Big 12

E rectile dysfunction TCU

R eam Oklahoma State

S laughter Oklahoma
 
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Winning the Powerball Jackpot is "mathematically possible," too. The CFP Committee has been consistent in at least one respect: No school with more than one loss has ever been invited to the "party."
 
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CFE, I admire you for your dedication as a fan and elder statesman, and unlike others, I won't disrepect you over your opinions. With that said, I disagree with you in regard to Notre Dame. Their schedule (on paper) is pretty stout. Opponents include Michigan, Stanford, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Navy, Florida State, Syracuse, and Southern Cal. It's not ND's fault that many of those teams are having down years.
 
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WVU_Dave said:
Agreed. Pretty sure the committee already proved a conference championship is not required to make the playoff.
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A lot of that has to do with the unbalanced schedules plus teams can look like crap during OOC and still manage to win their conference.

This eye test question to me is what the computer values as well.

Team A vs Team B
Team A beats Team C 45-10
Team A beats Team D 52-20
Team A beats Team E 59-14
Team A beats Team F 45-13
Team A loses to Team B 20-24

Team B beats Team F 31-20
Team B beats Team E 34-24
Team B beats Team D 27-24
Team B beats Team C 41-31
Team B beats Team A 24-20

Computers because of MoV in Data values Team A over Team B even though Team B beat Team A on the field.

Those other games are 4 data points. Those 4 data points are more important than head to head

This eye test rewards teams who overwhelm and dominant inferior competition.

Beating an great team 48-10 is one thing but beating an inferior team like that is not impressive
 
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Just remember one rule for selection committee....number of TV sets projected. It's all about the advertising $$.
 
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TN EER said:
Just remember one rule for selection committee....number of TV sets projected. It's all about the advertising $$.
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That is why they can't have blowouts.

Even a blowout between two big name schools cause people to turn off the TV
A close game between two no name schools will draw a better audience
 
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MichiganHerd said:
CFE, I admire you for your dedication as a fan and elder statesman, and unlike others, I won't disrepect you over your opinions. With that said, I disagree with you in regard to Notre Dame. Their schedule (on paper) is pretty stout. Opponents include Michigan, Stanford, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Navy, Florida State, Syracuse, and Southern Cal. It's not ND's fault that many of those teams are having down years.
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You're right. It's not Notre Dame's fault that they have a crappy schedule, other than Michigan. But it should be a factor in whether they are worthy of the Football Final Four if they lose. If they are unbeaten, then they belong in, as every Power 5 team is. But if they lose to one of those crappy teams, then the Irish should be out. That's fair. The same rule that applies to everyone else. And a civil response is always welcome on this board. Thank you.


M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14

O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17

U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence

N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6

T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34

A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22

I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30

N ailed Baylor, 58-14

E liminate Texas from first place in Big 12

E rectile dysfunction TCU

R eam Oklahoma State

S laughter Oklahoma


 
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they don't have a crappy schedule............. they, currently, have the 34th toughest schedule in college football.

WVU has the 33rd.

The combined record for ND's remaining opponents - 19-13

The combined record for WVU's remaining opponents - 21-11


That's a one-game swing
 
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spartansstink

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MichiganHerd said:
CFE, I admire you for your dedication as a fan and elder statesman, and unlike others, I won't disrepect you over your opinions. With that said, I disagree with you in regard to Notre Dame. Their schedule (on paper) is pretty stout. Opponents include Michigan, Stanford, Virginia Tech, Pitt, Navy, Florida State, Syracuse, and Southern Cal. It's not ND's fault that many of those teams are having down years.
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True, but if another team or two are undefeated or have maybe one loss to a highly ranked team, and played a tougher schedule shouldn't that count for something?

That same argument was used against UCF last year. Shouldn't the same apply to Notre Dame?
 
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KeatonsCorner said:
they don't have a crappy schedule............. they, currently, have the 34th toughest schedule in college football.

WVU has the 33rd.

The combined record for ND's remaining opponents - 19-13

The combined record for WVU's remaining opponents - 21-11


That's a one-game swing
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But if that is the sole criteria - shouldn't WVU be sitting in Notre Dame's spot?
 
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Cuyahoga Falls Eers said:
Committee changes its reasons for its selections every year. Like college football, unpredictability is the committee's most predictable quality.

Central Florida over WVU, Kentucky and Penn State? Really? Who would put money on UCF going 3-0 against those teams.

And Notre Dame, other than Michigan, plays a pansy schedule that would be dissed if WVU played those teams.

Double standards all over the place.

WVU just needs to win out, win the Big 12 title and the my alma mater would have a resume that would be hard to keep them out of the Football Final Four.

Remember, there will be ONE or NO unbeaten teams in the Football Final Four. History tells us that. So a 1-loss WVU will have the credentials to join the big party.


M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14

O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17

U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence

N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6

T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34

A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22

I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30

N ailed Baylor, 58-14

E liminate Texas from first place in Big 12

E rectile dysfunction TCU

R eam Oklahoma State

S laughter Oklahoma
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Dream on. We're not a team that generates TV viewership. And, our upset to ISU hurt us big time on the national stage. Lately, most people around the country see us as a team that can't win the really big ones. Yes, a win Saturday and against OU will be a step in the right direction. But, everyone also sees the B12 as a weak conference this year based on its OOC record. IMO, only OU winning outright gets a B12 team in the Big Dance. I hope I'm wrong. But, I just don't see it happening for anyone not named OU.
 
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LAMountaineer said:
Dream on. We're not a team that generates TV viewership. And, our upset to ISU hurt us big time on the national stage. Lately, most people around the country see us as a team that can't win the really big ones. Yes, a win Saturday and against OU will be a step in the right direction. But, everyone also sees the B12 as a weak conference this year based on its OOC record. IMO, only OU winning outright gets a B12 team in the Big Dance. I hope I'm wrong. But, I just don't see it happening for anyone not named OU.
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Dream on. That's exactly what I'm doing. And enjoying the moment. Till it doesn't happen, it can happen. And it's making me feel good about being a West Virginia native. That's a good thing, right? If we don't do it, then we'll be among all but 4 teams in the nation that didn't do it. We'll have a lot of company.

I still wish West Virginia, Northwestern and Kentucky would make the Football Final Four just to watch the TV talking heads explode. Never going to happen, but it makes me smile as I go to sleep at night dreaming about it.

Being an optimist keeps me happier than being a pessimist.

We have to get our fun where we can. Watching my alma mater win football games is a big part of my fun. Making the Football Final Four would let me smile when I take my Final Dirtnap.


M agnificent Grier passes shredded Tennessee, 40-14

O verhelmed drenched Youngstown, 52-17

U nable to play North Carolina State because of Hurricane Florence

N asty defense against Kansas State, 35-6

T errific, then timid on offense against Texas Tech, 42-34

A ntsy time for fans, vs. Kansas!, 38-22

I ncomprehensible insanely indescribably inept offense against Iowa State, 14-30

N ailed Baylor, 58-14

E liminate Texas from first place in Big 12

E rectile dysfunction TCU

R eam Oklahoma State

S laughter Oklahoma
 
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Since the start of the BCS in 1999, no game has had a higher rating or more viewers than the 2006 Rose Bowl. The thrilling national championship between Texas and USC had a 21.7 rating and 35.6 million viewers. Second on that list if the first national championship of the CFP era, Ohio State-Oregon in 2015 (18.6, 34.1M).

SMW’s complete college football ratings chart, which includes all regular season games dating back to 2012, is available here.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF RATINGS HISTORY

2014-15 CFP NC Oregon vs. Ohio St. 18.6
2017-18 CFP NC Alabama vs. Georgia 16.7
2014-15 Sugar (semi) Alabama vs. Ohio St. 15.2
2015-16 CFP NC Alabama vs. Clemson 15.0
2014-15 Rose (semi) Oregon vs. Florida St. 14.8
2016-17 CFP NC Alabama vs. Clemson 14.2
2017-18 Rose (semi) Oklahoma vs. Georgia 13.7
2017-18 Sugar (semi) Alabama vs. Clemson 11.4
2016-17 Peach (semi) Alabama vs. Washington 10.7
2016-17 Fiesta (semi) Clemson vs. Ohio St. 9.8
2015-16 Cotton (semi) Alabama vs. Michigan St. 9.6
2015-16 Orange (semi) Clemson vs. Oklahoma 9.1
2016-17 Rose Penn St. vs. S. California 8.6
2015-16 Rose Iowa vs. Stanford 7.4
2017-18 Orange Miami FL vs. Wisconsin 6.3
2016-17 Orange Florida St. vs. Michigan 6.2
2017-18 Fiesta Washington vs. Penn St. 5.7
2015-16 Fiesta Notre Dame vs. Ohio St. 5.6
2016-17 Sugar Auburn vs. Oklahoma 5.6
2017-18 Cotton Ohio St. vs. S. California 5.3
2014-15 Cotton Baylor vs. Michigan St. 5.2
2015-16 Sugar Oklahoma St. vs. Mississippi 5.1
2014-15 Orange Georgia Tech vs. Mississippi St. 5.0
2017-18 Peach Auburn vs. C. Florida 4.6
2014-15 Fiesta Arizona vs. Boise St. 4.6
2015-16 Peach Florida St. vs. Houston 3.7
2014-15 Peach Mississippi vs. Texas Christian 3.4
2016-17 Cotton Wisconsin vs. W. Michigan 3.1
Cumulative 244.2/ 28 = 8.72 (8.7) net average television rating.

BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES RATINGS HISTORY
2005-06 Rose (NC) Texas vs. S. California 21.7
2000-01 Orange (NC) Florida St. vs. Oklahoma 17.8
1999-2000 Sugar (NC) Florida St. vs. Virginia Tech 17.5
2006-07 BCS/NC Ohio St. vs. Florida 17.4
2009-10 BCS/NC Alabama vs. Texas 17.2
1998-99 Fiesta (NC) Florida St. vs. Tennessee 17.2
2002-03 Fiesta (NC) Miami, FL vs. Ohio St. 17.2
2008-09 BCS/NC Oklahoma vs. Florida 15.8
2010-11 BCS/NC Auburn vs. Oregon 15.3
2012-13 BCS/NC Alabama vs. Notre Dame 15.1
2013-14 BCS/NC Auburn vs. Florida St. 14.8
2003-04 Sugar (NC) Oklahoma vs. Louisiana St. 14.8
2007-08 BCS/NC Ohio ST. vs. Louisiana St. 14.4
2003-04 Rose Michigan vs. S. California 14.3
1999-2000 Rose Stanford vs. Wiscsonsin 14.1
2011-12 BCS/NC Alabama vs. Louisiana St. 14.0
2000-01 Rose Purdue vs. Washington 14.0
2006-07 Rose Michigan vs. S. California 13.9
2001-02 Rose (NC) Miami, FL vs. Nebraska 13.8
2004-05 Orange (NC) Oklahoma vs. S. California 13.7
1998-99 Rose Wisconsin vs. U.C.L.A. 13.3
2009-10 Rose Oregon vs. Ohio St. 13.2
2000-01 Sugar Florida vs. Miami, FL 13.0
2005-06 Fiesta Notre Dame vs. Ohio St. 12.9
2004-05 Rose Michigan vs. Texas 12.4
2005-06 Orange Florida St. vs. Pennsylvania St. 12.3
2008-09 Rose Penn St. vs. S. California 11.7
1998-99 Sugar Ohio St. vs. Texas A&M 11.5.
1999-2000 Orange Alabama vs. Michigan 11.4
2010-11 Rose Wisconsin vs. Texas Christian 11.3
2002-03 Rose Oklahoma vs. Washington St. 11.3
2001-02 Fiesta Colorado vs. Oregon 11.3
2007-08 Rose Illinois vs. S. California 11.1
2000-01 Fiesta Notre Dame vs. Ohio St. 10.7
2008-09 Fiesta Ohio St. vs. Texas 10.4
2013-14 Rose Stanford vs. Michigan St. 10.2
2011-12 Rose Oregon vs. Wiscsonsin 10.2
2002-03 Orange Iowa vs. S. California 9.7
1999-2000 Fiesta Nebraska vs. Tennessee 9.6
2004-05 Sugar Auburn vs. Virginia Tech 9.5
2001-02 Orange Florida vs. Maryland 9.5
2012-13 Rose Stanford vs. Wisconsin 9.4
2013-14 Sugar Alabama vs. Oklahoma 9.3
2006-07 Sugar Notre Dame vs. Louisiana St. 9.3
2002-03 Sugar Georgia vs. Florida St. 9.2
2003-04 Orange Miami, FL vs. Florida St. 9.1
2005-06 Sugar Georgia vs. W. Virginia 9.0
2001-02 Sugar Illinois vs. Louisiana St. 8.6
2009-10 Sugar Cincinnati vs. Florida 8.5
2003-04 Fiesta Kansas St. vs. Ohio St. 8.5
2006-07 Fiesta Boise St. vs. Oklahoma 8.4
2011-12 Fiesta Oklahoma St. vs. Stanford 8.4
1998-99 Orange Florida vs. Syracuse 8.4
2009-10 Fiesta Boise St. vs. Texas Christian 8.2
2010-11 Sugar Arkansas vs. Ohio St. 8.2
2008-09 Sugar Alabama vs. Utah 7.8
2007-08 Fiesta Oklahoma vs. W. Virginia 7.7
2012-13 Fiesta Kansas St. vs. Oregon 7.4
2004-05 Fiesta Utah vs. Pittsburgh 7.4
2007-08 Orange Kansas vs. Virginia Tech 7.4
2007-08 Sugar UGeorgia vs. Hawaii 7.0
2006-07 Orange Louisville vs. Wake Forest 7.0
2009-10 Orange Georgia Tech vs. Iowa 6.8
2013-14 Orange Clemson vs. Ohio St. 6.7
2010-11 Orange Stanford vs. Virginia Tech 6.7
2013-14 Fiesta Baylor vs. C. Florida 6.6
2010-11 Fiesta Connecticut vs. Oklahoma 6.2
2012-13 Sugar Florida vs. Louisville 6.2
2012-13 Orange N. Illinois vs. Florida St. 6.1
2011-12 Sugar Michigan vs. Virginia Tech 6.1
2008-09 Orange Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech 5.4
2011-12 Orange Clemson vs. W. Virginia 4.5
 
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