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Pitt4Life34

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Just another internet bully that thinks he's funny but everyone else thinks... Wow this guys pathetic!


Dude you know you’re on the Internet right? How could you ever feel bullied? Plus understand what bullying actually is. I’m no bully for stating the obvious that you’re an Internet goofball.
 

TejasFan

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Heck, it won't bother me if WV never wins a National Championship in any sport. I live in South Carolina and can tell you that Clemson has won the NC two times. Not one person that I know ever brings this fact up. The NC has not changed a single persons life in SC..............except maybe for the shiny shoes coaches and administrators of the program. What a shame that college sports has turned into a rich mans game that is fueled by the hard working folks that get paid by the hour. Warez
 

Pitt4Life34

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Now hurry and change your screen name and come back and agree with yourself again.


You obviously haven’t been around here goofball. I’m royalty here! Do some research before you post stupid crap. The locals can assure you I’ve been on here for years. Makes me think your projecting your Texass crap again.
 
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You obviously haven’t been around here goofball. I’m royalty here! Do some research before you post stupid crap. The locals can assure you I’ve been on here for years. Makes me think your projecting your Texass crap again.

Royalty???
No, you are a trashy Pitt fan with multiple screen names that jumps on WV anytime anything negative happens.
You have been having a field day this past week with your fire DH topics.

Why would a self accused Pitt fan care about WV?
You think people are stupid enough to believe you are a Pitt fan and a WV fan.
Did I forget an Ohio St fan as well.
 
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You obviously haven’t been around here goofball. I’m royalty here! Do some research before you post stupid crap. The locals can assure you I’ve been on here for years. Makes me think your projecting your Texass crap again.
Royalty? I just read a post where you are blocked by many posters. People seem to think you're annoying! Texas? I've never posted anything about Texas in my life. Never been to Texas. Don't care about Texas. Reading is comprehension! Royalty? You appear to be a delusional half wit.
 

Pitt4Life34

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Royalty? I just read a post where you are blocked by many posters. People seem to think you're annoying! Texas? I've never posted anything about Texas in my life. Never been to Texas. Don't care about Texas. Reading is comprehension! Royalty? You appear to be a delusional half wit.


Dude I’m using you like a dish rag haha. There are two things I know about this site. One there are hopeless homers like you. And two there are super slow posters that need to get a sense of humor. Fold your tent up and block me.
 
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Pitt4Life34

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Royalty???
No, you are a trashy Pitt fan with multiple screen names that jumps on WV anytime anything negative happens.
You have been having a field day this past week with your fire DH topics.

Why would a self accused Pitt fan care about WV?
You think people are stupid enough to believe you are a Pitt fan and a WV fan.
Did I forget an Ohio St fan as well.


Wrong Texass loser. Been around here for years. If you weren’t some lame moron you’d know I’m royalty around these parts. Everyone on here knows I’ve never dogged football or basketball program. Find one post over last five years that I’ve hammered either program or coach retard. I’ll wait for your research conclusion. In the meantime I’ll be at Baylor and Oklahoma game rooting at the top of my lungs!!!
 
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Wrong Texass loser. Been around here for years. If you weren’t some lame moron you’d know I’m royalty around these parts. Everyone on here knows I’ve never dogged football or basketball program. Find one post over last five years that I’ve hammered either program or coach retard. I’ll wait for your research conclusion. In the meantime I’ll be at Baylor and Oklahoma game rooting at the top of my lungs!!!

You are not even worth my time.
You will deny the obvious truth every time.
Royalty????
You are more like a parasite on this board.
 
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Dude I’m using you like a dish rag haha. There are two things I know about this site. One there are hopeless homers like you. And two there are super slow posters that need to get a sense of humor. Fold your tent up and block me.
Using me like a dish rag? Dude, you are truly a loser. Nobody likes you in life so you come on here acting a fool. I'm not going to waste anymore time on your stupidity. Eff off.
 

deedoubleyou

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Again Lincoln Nebraska 280,000
Morgantown WV 30,000

The Morgantown metro area population is actually 140,000 and growing, not including students. To not throw in areas like Star City, Sabraton, etc, etc is pathetic and stupid. I grew up here and have lived in Morgantown for 45 years, and I know one thing, if a person grew up in Star City, Westover, Cheat Lake, Sabraton, etc...and they are traveling and meet new people who ask where they are from, they dont say "Cheak Lake WV" or Star City WV...They say Morgantown WV lol.

This is a weak argument. WVU can compete and win with anyone with the right coaching and recruiting. Nick Saban would not have any issues loading this roster full of 4 and 5 stars. Dana Holgerson does. Jimbo Fisher would not have any issues bringing good recruits here. Any really good coach who is a proven winner would not have any issues. But when we meltdown every year that we're expected to be good, and never seem to shake that, it will hinder the 4 and 5 star guys. Recruits get to see WVU fall short year after year. That cant be appealing to the 4 and 5 star guys.
 
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West Virginia has never had a Top 25 class.
Time for reality.
WV is a 5-7 year program
Not a 2-3 year program

2-3 year programs can change Coaches and start winning big
Examples
Alabama
USC
Georgia
Texas

WV is a 5-7 year program. Meaning they have to create something that resembles a program. Then every year they can recruit better.
Nick Saban can't get a Top 10 class at WV
Saban would have to build the 5-7 year way before challenging for a NC.

Recruiting classes in the 20's and above don't reach the CFP except Michigan St and Dantonio is a 5-7 year coach.
 

ChattanoogaEER

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The Morgantown metro area population is actually 140,000 and growing, not including students. To not throw in areas like Star City, Sabraton, etc, etc is pathetic and stupid. I grew up here and have lived in Morgantown for 45 years, and I know one thing, if a person grew up in Star City, Westover, Cheat Lake, Sabraton, etc...and they are traveling and meet new people who ask where they are from, they dont say "Cheak Lake WV" or Star City WV...They say Morgantown WV lol.

This is a weak argument. WVU can compete and win with anyone with the right coaching and recruiting. Nick Saban would not have any issues loading this roster full of 4 and 5 stars. Dana Holgerson does. Jimbo Fisher would not have any issues bringing good recruits here. Any really good coach who is a proven winner would not have any issues. But when we meltdown every year that we're expected to be good, and never seem to shake that, it will hinder the 4 and 5 star guys. Recruits get to see WVU fall short year after year. That cant be appealing to the 4 and 5 star guys.


You are out of your mind if you think recruiting to WVU is the same as recruiting to Alabama or A&M or FSU.......
 
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West Virginia has never had a Top 25 class.
Time for reality.
WV is a 5-7 year program
Not a 2-3 year program

2-3 year programs can change Coaches and start winning big
Examples
Alabama
USC
Georgia
Texas

WV is a 5-7 year program. Meaning they have to create something that resembles a program. Then every year they can recruit better.
Nick Saban can't get a Top 10 class at WV
Saban would have to build the 5-7 year way before challenging for a NC.

Recruiting classes in the 20's and above don't reach the CFP except Michigan St and Dantonio is a 5-7 year coach.

Current coach has had 8 years and the best team he has fielded during that time has played average or worse more often than not over its 5-1 record where the best win is against a 3-3 Tennessee team with a new head coach.
 
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Current coach has had 8 years and the best team he has fielded during that time has played average or worse more often than not over its 5-1 record where the best win is against a 3-3 Tennessee team with a new head coach.

According to recruiting rankings
WV should be 5-4 to 4-5 in the Big XII every year.
Depending on where the Oklahoma St game is.
I will give him 3-0 to 2-1 in OOC.

According to recruiting rankings WV should be 8-4 to 6-6.


You can attack DH for his recruiting but not his coaching.
He is not working with Top 20 or even Top 25 talent.
 
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2012 Holgorsen 7–6 4–5 T-5th L Pinstripe
2013 Holgorsen 4–8 2–7 T-7th
2014 Holgorsen 7–6 5-4 T-4th L Liberty
2015 Holgorsen 8–5 4-5 5th W Cactus
2016 Holgorsen 10–3 7-2 T-2nd L Russell 17 18
2017 Holgorsen 7–6 5-4


He has 4 seasons on average, 1 season above and 1 season below.

Unless WV can find a coach like a Matt Campbell who can get more out of his talent than keeping DH would be smarter.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.
 
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According to recruiting rankings
WV should be 5-4 to 4-5 in the Big XII every year.
Depending on where the Oklahoma St game is.
I will give him 3-0 to 2-1 in OOC.

According to recruiting rankings WV should be 8-4 to 6-6.


You can attack DH for his recruiting but not his coaching.
He is not working with Top 20 or even Top 25 talent.

That's the point. Good coaches can get more out of the talent they do get. Nehlen and Rodriguez (still a huge prick and can rot) did it. Coaches like Meyer and Peterson did it at Utah and Boise State respectively. A good coach maximizes the talent he gets. Dana relies too much on transfers and often gets routed by good teams and too frequently by average to bad teams.
 
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The first responsibility of the HC is RECRUITING. Who do you think does it...the janitor in the coaches offices?

Recruiting has more to do with the program and boosters.
Coaches change but the people behind the scenes who establish networks don't.

When WV plays a home game how many recruits show up out of the top 300.

At any school in recruiting hotbeds they have 15-25 Top 300 recruits in the current class, the next year's class and the year after.
 
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That's the point. Good coaches can get more out of the talent they do get. Nehlen and Rodriguez (still a huge prick and can rot) did it. Coaches like Meyer and Peterson did it at Utah and Boise State respectively. A good coach maximizes the talent he gets. Dana relies too much on transfers and often gets routed by good teams and too frequently by average to bad teams.

Peterson did it at Boise St where he had better recruits than his competition.
Same with Meyer at Utah.
WV under Rich Rod brought in top classes in the Big East
 
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Peterson did it at Boise St where he had better recruits than his competition.
Same with Meyer at Utah.
WV under Rich Rod brought in top classes in the Big East

So explain those coaches successes against the better recruited teams they played in bowl games. VT routinely had more talented classes than WVU under RR and he did alright. You are just flat out wrong if you think Holgorsen is a good coach.
 
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So explain those coaches successes against the better recruited teams they played in bowl games. VT routinely had more talented classes than WVU under RR and he did alright. You are just flat out wrong if you think Holgorsen is a good coach.

I can go back and look but I am not sure on VT.
They left the conference soon after Rich Rod.

The bowl game....
It is very easy to get a team up for one opponent.
You can give credit to the coaching staff for motivating players in Big bowl games.
No team plays an A game every week of the year.
So if Rich Rod was consistently playing schools with Top 20 talent every week he would have loss way more than he won.
Rich Rod was a very overrated coach.
Reason for his downfall at Michigan and then at Arizona
 
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Wow are you ever clueless. It is obvious you were never recruited lol.

You are so far out of the loop it is not even funny.
Research Chris Steele and USC if you do not believe me
According to some USC recruiting insider was used as a bagman and gave Steele improper benefits.
Because of this Steele had to decommit.

Coaches and recruiting coordinators have dead periods but the people on these huge recruiting sites do not and can contact a recruit at any time.


Scott Ekland claims that Scott Schrader of TrojanInsider.com and Ryan Young of TrojanSports.com gave Chris Steele improper benefits. Said that through compliance office, USC actually parted ways with Steele because of the high potential for NCAA drama. Saw this in Hardcore Husky Recruiting under their Chris Steele thread.
 
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It is more than that. A lot of big time schools have fanbases not connected to the university in any way that run negative recruiting campaigns against other universities on social media

You may not think this makes a difference but last year a 5 star OL from Ohio picked Clemson over Ohio St because Clemson fans ran a negative recruiting campaign against Urban Meyer.

Coaches do not change this resource that some schools have and others do not
 
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It is more than that. A lot of big time schools have fanbases not connected to the university in any way that run negative recruiting campaigns against other universities on social media

You may not think this makes a difference but last year a 5 star OL from Ohio picked Clemson over Ohio St because Clemson fans ran a negative recruiting campaign against Urban Meyer.

Coaches do not change this resource that some schools have and others do not

So by your reasoning; Recruiting is all that matters and since WVU will never have the resources and thus success of Texas and OU, the school should just be content playing for Big XII third place year in and year out? You know since coaching has so little to do with success.
 
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You’re telling me that at age 15 I watched us play for a national championship in 1988, but will never see it again?
To be accurate, the 1942 NIT championship was regarded as THE national title that year when WVU won it, so we DO have a national championship in basketball. And we were undefeated in football in 1922 with Doc Spears and won the precursor to the Rose Bowl so we could claim that as a national title, too (well, Pitt does that; why not WVU?). NCAA tournament was only a baby then, and teams routinely turned down the NCAA to play in the NIT in Madison Square Garden till the NCAA ruled that they couldn't do that any more, but did allow teams to play in BOTH tournaments for a few more years.


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