A simple fix for unwanted kids

[atlkvb]

The Pro Abortion, anti Trump, hate filled opposition to Judge Kavanaugh comes on here to call me names, and cast aspersions on either my intellect or veracity, or otherwise make scurrilous charges similar to how they approve of Judge Kavanaugh's good name being smeared, but not one of them has the guts or the intelligence or the personal integrity to stand up like a Man and either refute my argument in the thread or argue for their support of infanticide.

The Left. Hit and run conflagrationists.

 

[atlkvb]

I don't agree with you at all. He is overzealous at times but @atlkvb is a good man and a stand up guy.

Your post is out of the liberal playbook, don't agree with someone, besmirch their opinions and impugn their character.

Your post says more about you than anything..

run it @BobbyBoucheer

 

[mule_eer]

Hate to break to you, but I am catholic and very conservative and it's not that easy. My wife is pregnant with our 2nd child. My wife has an ultrasound with a new OB since we just moved to Cinti from WV and actually just moved into our house earlier in the week. The ultrasound shows severe birth defects but they don't tell us until we meet with another doctor. After additional testing they diagnose my son with Trisomy 13 (not downs) . We find out our son has a 0% chance to live. His heart and stomach is forming outside of his body and his brain is not developed. On top of that my wife is accumulating additional fluids and she has a greater than a 50% chance of rupturing her uterus if she goes full term which could make her sterile.

They recommend a late term procedure (abortion) to induce labor so that my wife will be safe and not add to additional complications moving forward. It was the worst day of our life. My wife is very catholic and does not want to have the procedure. I had to convince her the risk of dying if she carries our son to full term with a 0% chance that he will ever survive is not what god wanted for her. She agreed but to this day every time time this debate comes up it makes both of us feel empty inside.

Just saw this, and I'm sorry that you and your wife are going through this. It's a painful thing to go through, I'm sure. My wife had an ectopic pregnancy (tubal) when we were trying for kid #2. It ruptured one fallopian tube, and she had to have emergency surgery to stop the bleeding. That was about 8 weeks into the pregnancy, so I can't imagine going much farther than that when complications arise. I'm sure you guys will get through this, but I know how you must feel right now.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I don't agree with you at all. He is overzealous at times but @atlkvb is a good man and a stand up guy.

Your post is out of the liberal playbook, don't agree with someone, besmirch their opinions and impugn their character.

Your post says more about you than anything..

No, he's not..........

 

[atlkvb]

Just saw this, and I'm sorry that you and your wife are going through this. It's a painful thing to go through, I'm sure. My wife had an ectopic pregnancy (tubal) when we were trying for kid #2. It ruptured one fallopian tube, and she had to have emergency surgery to stop the bleeding. That was about 8 weeks into the pregnancy, so I can't imagine going much farther than that when complications arise. I'm sure you guys will get through this, but I know how you must feel right now.

God bless you too Mule! What happened to your Wife is another reason ironically why it is so dangerous doing abortions because that procedure often leaves Fallopian tubes very susceptible to damage...sometimes permanently! It doesn't get reported much in the pro Abortion media but many women who have that procedure end up with permanent damage to their reproductive systems.

Fact.

 

[atlkvb]

No, he's not..........

You have my permission to either point out the flaws in my "compromise" or argue for infanticide. What is the difference? Either way you are still killing an unwanted child are you not?

Please feel free to explain the difference.

 

[atlkvb]

@moe ,@MountaineerWV ,@Boomboom521 @Keyser76 @bamaEER @WVUCOOPER @RichardPeterJohnson, @Bulya , @WVUBRU @Op2
@Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @CpEER @Orlaco ?

Do you all see all of these protesters? You think they're all out there simply because they're convinced Judge Kavanaugh assaulted Christine Blasey Ford even though there is no evidence of that or supporting eyewitnesses to it?

OK.

You go ahead and follow that delusion. I'm telling you those are pro-abortion protesters! This issue isn't going away, and while all of you have avoided this thread to come on here and argue for what you're defending in currently supporting a Woman's right to "choose", you will get challenged again on this issue and I will be using this exact same thread to force you to defend infanticide as we engage in our debates on if the landmark Roe v Wade decision should remain the unchallenged law of the land?

You can't argue for a Woman's "choice" unless you are ready to argue for allowing her to kill her unwanted child, which is all this thread offered. Why you've all avoided it is perplexing since all of you are opposed to Judge Kavanaugh for that reason, but all of you say you are pro choice you'd just never "impose" that onto someone else. Right? (except for @CpEER ...he said he "loves" abortions)

So it's OK for you all to hide out for now. But as you are all no doubt aware by now Judge Kavanuagh will be seated onto the Supreme Court, and as I pointed out in the thread Roe v Wade and Abortion restrictions among the States will come before the high court and he will get a chance to weigh in on it...so will you all.

I'll be curious what all of you are arguing then when it comes to a Woman's right to kill her unwanted child? You can run, but you can't hide behind your lies regarding this issue! See 'ya soon.

 

[EERs 3:16]

Can't we just put them in workhouses?

 

[atlkvb]

Can't we just put them in workhouses?

Right now they're being harvested for sale. Wonder which is more "humane"?

 

[atlkvb]

@moe ,@MountaineerWV ,@Boomboom521 @Keyser76 @bamaEER @WVUCOOPER @RichardPeterJohnson, @Bulya , @WVUBRU @Op2 @Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @CpEER @Orlaco ?

So what did all of those pro-choice protesters who crashed the Senate Office building and marched to the Supreme Court screaming for a Woman's right to "choose" have wrong when it comes to demanding permission to kill their own unwanted Children?

How come none of you are arguing for them to do just that? I am. Let 'em kill their own kids, by themselves, after they're born! What's wrong with that? Aren't the Moms still making a "choice"? Aren't the Babies still alive? Aren't they still Babies? What difference does it make if they're killed by the reluctant Moms after birth instead of before birth by someone else at taxpayer expense no less?

How come none of you Pro Choice folks aren't defending these folks?

 

[atlkvb]

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@Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @CpEER @Orlaco ?

So...you Pro Choicers.....

If a woman has a Constitutional right to privacy enabling her to kill her unwanted child before it's born, why does she not have that same right to kill it or mistreat it after it's born? Is the non-birth of another, separate, living human being the determining factor on if a Woman has control over her own body? :scream:

Think about that a minute...does that even make any logical sense?

So to carry the illogic further, if that is indeed a separate living Human being inside of her, why are her rights to privacy superior to its right to Life? Isn't that the exact opposite circumstance she faces under the Law after the Baby is born? Her right to privacy ends at the birth of that Baby who now has a right to Life and privacy of its own under the Constitution does it not? So if a living Human being has rights after it is born, why does the Mother's separate body have rights to privacy over the Baby's rights to Life even if it is still inside the Womb? I thought it was just the Woman's body, and her rights only we were discussing here? So what is that Baby inside of her? A dead non entity or another living Human being? What is she "choosing" to kill off if it's not part of her own body?

Can any of you explain that?

 

[Boomboom521]

JFC

 

[atlkvb]

It is a prohibition of blasphemy, specifically, the misuse or "taking in vain" of the name of the God of Israel, or using His name to commit evil. ... "Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." (KJV).

(So rather than cursing the Creator of Life, why don't you defend your support for arbitrarily ending it simply because it's your "choice"?)

That's called murder btw [winking]

Exodus 20:13
“You shall not murder.

Leviticus 24:17
“Whoever takes a human life shall surely be put to death.

Deuteronomy 5:17
“‘You shall not murder.

Romans 12:17-21
"Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good"

Don't curse Almighty God, speak his Holy Word with reverence and Worship his ultimate goodness and Wisdom.

 

[atlkvb]

@Boomboom521

Hey boomer....

You celebrate this don't 'ya? You couldn't be happier to see this again could 'ya? 'C'mon tell the Truth...at least for once. America the beautiful right boomer?

 

[atlkvb]

"All right Judge Kavanaugh repeat after me...

I Brett Kavanaugh...do solemnly swear...that I shall faithfully execute my beer drinking duties...and oversee the spiking of punch bowls laced with narcotics...and expose myself whenever and wherever I can... to whosoever I can...and that I shall work diligently to make sure everyone who is ever accused anywhere, at anytime, of anything, by anyone...is treated with the same disgusting disregard for the Truth as I was...so help me God!"

Congratulations!

 

[atlkvb]

Good flick!

You "pro choicers" who've been straight up cowards throughout this thread and refused to come defend your "choice" for infanticide should at least have the stones to go see this and arm yourselves against all the anti-abortion folks who are out there pimpin' this flick. Have some courage for a change you staunch pro choice social justice warriors... stand up and be counted with this mass murderer 'Gosnell' who gets off slaughtering little innocent babies for fun (many of them Black) while you brave folks stomp around & argue it's a woman's "choice".

Sickos.



Coming soon to a major theater near you!

 

[Original Mountaineer1]

If you strip away all of the window dressing, the Left's primary opposition to Judge Kavanaugh is based on fear he will be the vote on the Supreme Court that overturns Roe v Wade. Abortion.

It's admittedly a divisive issue but here's a solution to uncomplicate it.

First, we agree abortion is selective termination of a Human Life. We know this by Science, by nature, and by fact. You cannot perform an abortion unless you kill the child, and there is no question that IS a human child...no matter what stage of development it is.

So given that...let's offer a solution that satisfies both sides. Pro Lifers obviously want to save lives, Pro Choicers don't want women to be forced to keep Babies they don't want right?

OK. So let's say we meet in the middle. Let's allow unwanted Babies to be born, then after Moms get a chance to look them over...check 'em out....and they still don't want to keep them, then just kill them. Or offer them up for adoption if murdering them is too strong. What's the difference?

The point is it makes no sense to kill the Baby before it is born when you can just as easily kill it after it is born. In fact waiting until it is born might help the Mom make a better informed decision. Once she sees the Baby, she can have a better idea if it's worth keeping. That's true choice!. Keep it, kill it, or place it into adoption. All options are open are they not? Where's the chance to save the Baby if it's killed in utero?

If she kills it before it's born, she can't change her mind. If she's of the mind to kill it anyway, having it born won't change that. If we're into infanticide, why hide it?

This represents the best compromise. No one will force you to kill your unwanted child, but you are free to do so after it is born if that's your wish. But at least the child gets to be born, and maybe gets a chance to live even if it's still unwanted by the reluctant Mom.

Just wait 'till birth to either kill the babies or place them into adoption or keep them after birth. Problem solved. Objections?

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You are so consumed with this issue that you can't think straight. Families of means will always ensure their girls get abortions. Whether here or abroad. That's what you fail to understand. That dynamic never goes away. So we are left with girls without means, girls with drug issues, and girls on welfare having babies nobody wants and we ultimately pay for.

Why not pass a law that says any man having pre-marital sex will be castrated? That will significantly reduce abortions too......

 

[atlkvb]

You are so consumed with this issue that you can't think straight. Families of means will always ensure their girls get abortions. Whether here or abroad. That's what you fail to understand. That dynamic never goes away. So we are left with girls without means, girls with drug issues, and girls on welfare having babies nobody wants and we ultimately pay for.

Why not pass a law that says any man having pre-marital sex will be castrated? That will significantly reduce abortions too......

Good point OM1! China has a "forced abortion" policy and the Socialist government there pays for it too! They systematically kill little Girls who are unwanted. They also sterilize Women in Sudan, and other parts of the Arab world...their abortion rates in those countries are zero my Man! Wanna go there since you're obviously infatuated with macabre genital mutilations? Be my guest OM1!

But you unfortunately missed the point of this thread. I'm accepting what you said that we will ALWAYS have abortion with us. I'm aware of that. So I simply offered a "compromise" that allows for the killing of unwanted children, but tries to at least give the unwanted fetuses a chance at Life! Moms will always kill their unwanted offspring, you're 100% correct...kind of like them having Sex...we just can't control them now can we OM1? No we can't!

So, all I've done here is recognize what you so brilliantly pointed out. Let's allow all of the killing of unwanted children we can stand...any day, any time, for any reason!

Don't like the color of the kid's eyes? Kill it! Don't like the sex? Kill it! Don't like the shape of the 'ol schnazolla because it reminds her too much of her cheatin' *** boyfriend? Kill it! Cleft lip, four eyes, 3 ears? Kill it! Perfectly normal, beautiful, healthy baby (as most are)...well by golly please kill it!

All my "compromise" allows OM1 is for the Moms to do their deeds themselves! Thus saving taxpayers, abortion mill operators, back alley graffiti artists who paint in blood, and of course Moms who demand their right to "choose" death. We allow for the moms to kill their babies past the 1st trimester, past the second, past 24 weeks, even past and up to as late as 8 days before birth! (Hillary's position) All my compromise changes is that she can kill that kid for any reason after it is born!

All she has to do is wait 24 hours, and if after that time she still doesn't want it, or doesn't want to place it into adoption for a Loving Family to care for, or she thinks it will be too expensive, or she hates her boyfriend, or she's not ready for the responsibility, or it will mess up her weekend partying...for whatever her reason is OM1, she gets to kill that kid on her own without fear of any repercussion from society or being charged with murder! I've even laid out in the thread the various ways we could offer her own choice of the method of the execution OM1, which was very generous on my part and something I did not have to do. (See how open minded I am on the murder of unwanted children?)

So believe it or not OM1, I'm actually surrendering this debate to your unchallenged reasoning, and solid analysis on the fact that we indeed will always have abortion with us. You're right! So why not allow the Moms the full freedom of choice, and ultimate control over their own bodies to decide for themselves if their unwanted fetuses live or die, by giving them permission to kill their unwanted fetuses themselves? All I want to know is what is wrong with my compromise? Why are you "pro choice" social justice warriors not signing up for this? Where's the flaw in my perfectly crafted "compromise" legislation that reaches across the isle in exemplary Democratic Socialist Progressive fashion, and finds "common ground" on this most divisive issue of our time OM1? Feel free to point out the flaws in my proposed legislation!

Where are my backers? Why aren't you supporting me OM1? Didn't you eloquently state in your response to this post that we will always have unwanted children, and women will always find a way to kill them off?

Yes you did, and I agree! So I can assume you'll join me then in promoting this landmark "compromise" legislation that protects a Woman's health, as well as her right to "choose" yet still gives unwanted fetuses a chance at least for Life? What's not to like OM1?

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@Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @CpEER @Orlaco ?

 

[atlkvb]

You are so consumed with this issue that you can't think straight.

Fair enough. Why don't you point out to me where my thinking is crooked on this issue? (you said I wasn't thinking straight)

While you do a google search for your answer tell me why Abortion is NOT the killing of innocent babies?

Let me give you an example to think on for "straight" thinking.

Let's say a criminal is arrested for B&E (breaking and entering) and in the process he kills the fetus of a frightened Mother. He's charged with murder. Why is he charged with murder if that's not another person he is charged with killing? Why is it OK for the mother...who in fact was scheduled for a late term abortion just the following day, to kill the Baby and it's NOT considered murder? He didn't kill her mind you, he was charged with killing her unborn fetus which as we all know is part of her body right?

But she was perfectly legal to go kill that Baby the very next day...only the burglar beat her to it! So why does he get charged with murder, yet she's allowed to kill the same fetus simply because the Baby is "unwanted"? It was just as "unwanted" when the burglar broke into her home and killed it wasn't it? In fact, he actually did her a favor did he not? So she gets to kill it and escape murder charges, but he gets charged with killing another human being who just happened to be the same fetus ?

Where's the "straight" thinking on that OM1?

 

[atlkvb]

What really gets me over the silence of you Pro Choice social justice warriors behind my little "compromise" in this thread is I know you guys all hate Judge Kavanaugh...with a passion! Unless you all are familiar with his judicial philosophy I have to assume it's over Abortion is it not? So what else is driving this irrational hatred you all have for him?

I know those crazy *** protestors out there are Pro-Abortion protesters! So why aren't you all on here defending them, and their insistence on a Woman's right to kill their unwanted Babies? Isn't that what you all want? So who's got their back?

How ya'll gonna win the Abortion debate and none of you has the chops to argue in favor of it? Being "personally opposed to abortion, but not willing to 'impose' it on others" is about the most chickensh*t stance somebody can have over such a divisive issue! Am I that hard to debate on this? Is my "compromise" offer allowing Moms to kill the little tykes themselves all that different from what they're doing now choosing to have them slaughtered by someone else in their wombs?

Ya'll are a bunch of Pussies who need to be grabbed and shaken the Hell up!
C'mon...fight!!!! Pro Choice!!!!!

Cowards...run away little Pussies!!!!!

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@Original Mountaineer1 @countryroads89 @CpEER @Orlaco ?

 

[dave]

Hate to break to you, but I am catholic and very conservative and it's not that easy. My wife is pregnant with our 2nd child. My wife has an ultrasound with a new OB since we just moved to Cinti from WV and actually just moved into our house earlier in the week. The ultrasound shows severe birth defects but they don't tell us until we meet with another doctor. After additional testing they diagnose my son with Trisomy 13 (not downs) . We find out our son has a 0% chance to live. His heart and stomach is forming outside of his body and his brain is not developed. On top of that my wife is accumulating additional fluids and she has a greater than a 50% chance of rupturing her uterus if she goes full term which could make her sterile.

They recommend a late term procedure (abortion) to induce labor so that my wife will be safe and not add to additional complications moving forward. It was the worst day of our life. My wife is very catholic and does not want to have the procedure. I had to convince her the risk of dying if she carries our son to full term with a 0% chance that he will ever survive is not what god wanted for her. She agreed but to this day every time time this debate comes up it makes both of us feel empty inside.

My sister went through something similar years ago. They recommended taking the baby. She told them she was willing to die. She had the baby and it died 15 minutes after birth. Its a tough situation.

 

[atlkvb]

My sister went through something similar years ago. They recommended taking the baby. She told them she was willing to die. She had the baby and it died 15 minutes after birth. Its a tough situation.

These types of stories are gut wrenching and tough, but as was mentioned earlier in the thread they are rare and not representative of the vast majority of choice "on demand" abortions in this country that are funded at taxpayer expense for nothing more than the convenience of the mother. Don't want the kid? Fine. Place it into an orphanage or adoption. Why the "culture of death"?

 

[EEResistable]

Hate to break to you, but I am catholic and very conservative and it's not that easy. My wife is pregnant with our 2nd child. My wife has an ultrasound with a new OB since we just moved to Cinti from WV and actually just moved into our house earlier in the week. The ultrasound shows severe birth defects but they don't tell us until we meet with another doctor. After additional testing they diagnose my son with Trisomy 13 (not downs) . We find out our son has a 0% chance to live. His heart and stomach is forming outside of his body and his brain is not developed. On top of that my wife is accumulating additional fluids and she has a greater than a 50% chance of rupturing her uterus if she goes full term which could make her sterile.

They recommend a late term procedure (abortion) to induce labor so that my wife will be safe and not add to additional complications moving forward. It was the worst day of our life. My wife is very catholic and does not want to have the procedure. I had to convince her the risk of dying if she carries our son to full term with a 0% chance that he will ever survive is not what god wanted for her. She agreed but to this day every time time this debate comes up it makes both of us feel empty inside.

I’m so sorry.

 

[atlkvb]

I know it's all in a name and controlling the language of a debate is as important as controlling the debate, but you Abortion social Justice warriors perplex me in your refusal to call what you support what it actually is!

So 'abortion on demand' which is the killing of unwanted living innocent fetuses gets changed into "a Woman's choice"

or

"Women's health"

or

"protecting a Woman's reproductive rights"

Why can't you all just be honest and admit to what you really support, which is infanticide? You'd agree since that's a live Baby, and if you killed it two minutes after it's born by puncturing it's skull that's murder correct?

So two minutes prior to that it's not a person? It's not alive? You're not killing it if you crush its soft skull and suck its brains out while it's still in the woman's birth canal? (partial birth abortion) That's OK with you all because you're protecting a woman's health right?

Go back further. 20 weeks into its gestation you can view the full fetus on an ultrasound correct? Well, you can also hand a uterine extraction device to a butcher and he can stick that thing into the woman's "reproductive system" and suck that fetus right out of there! However, if he inserts a sharp instrument into her uterus, punctures her amniotic sack, and causes that 20 week old fetus to drown in amniotic fluid that's murder is it not? (botched abortion) But that's fine because it's her own body and her right to "choose" correct?

Not to you blood thirsty "Pro choice" soldiers. See to you sickos, it's actually about "protecting a woman's health" right? (how's it a woman's health if we're talking about killing another human being anyway?)

Why can't you all just admit you're into killing innocent little babies? Why the charade or 'wordplay'? What's with all the altruistic phony *** concern for a mother's "choice" or her "health" when you expose her to death and risk her health every time she lays down on an abortionist's butchering block and spreads her legs to allow the genocide monster to go into her body and dismember her precious innocent little baby limb by limb? Or maybe you eugenicists really do realize what you support and you just aren't honest enough with yourselves to admit it?


Who are you all fooling besides yourselves?

Ya'll are some sick people you do at least know that right?[eyeroll]

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[atlkvb]

You are so consumed with this issue that you can't think straight.

Why can't you as easily point out my errant or "non straight" thinking on this issue as easily as you typed this baseless charge? Why don't you list a few of the things that have "so consumed my thinking on this issue that I can't think straight"?

Or to make it easier for you to explain yourself, what is the "straight" thinking on this issue that I shouldn't be so consumed with?

Explain yourself.

@Original Mountaineer1

 

[MikeRafone]

LMAO!

Ol' KVB is having a meltdown of Knoxlike proportions! I always knew he was crazy, but damned if he hasn't proved it with this little outburst?

This is what the Doc told you would happen if you went off your meds, KVB. But did you listen? Nooo....

 

[atlkvb]

He's ignored because he's a liar and a fraud who speaks of family values but has none of his own

'Ya know @MountaineerWV , I've said many things in this thread that could be easily disproved as lies or untrue. I've also made many claims that could easily be used to prove my lack of respect or reverence for Human Life and/or its Creator. I've laid out many arguments describing what in fact is infanticide, and hopefully proved my opposition to what that is while demonstrating that those of you who support it simply refuse to admit it?

In summation, in any one of the 60 or so some odd posts contained in this thread, you have more than enough material among those that are mine which you are free to use to back up your claim quoted in this post you made about me. You have certainly ignored the thread other than to post your negative diatribe and lies about me, you certainly didn't have a problem doing that did you? However, you also have a standing, open invitation to back it up, or point out one lie, misstatement, or show one example of my "lack of Family values" as proof of the scurrilous charge you made about me in your post.

See @MountaineerWV , it's not about how easy it is just to throw around baseless charges or smear a person's good character. We certainly saw how skilled you on the Left are with that subterfuge used to hide your true intentions in opposition to Constitutional limits on Government power & our Freedoms as represented by the infuriating way you all tried to smear then derail Judge Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court. So we know how easily you all love to disparage folks you disagree with.

This is about you backing up your smear on me, or at least coming clean and admitting to what you actually support as a so called "Christian" who also favors the indiscriminate slaughter of precious innocent Human Life from Almighty God himself. You may not believe it MWV, but I Pray for you. Jesus said to Pray for the lost or those filled with hate. He said they first hated him, and he promised us that those who speak in his name will also be equally as hated. So I get why you hate me. I don't understand your hatred of Christ though, especially if you are Christian as you have claimed?

So I Pray for your lost Soul, (you are indeed lost) that you may sincerely find Christ if you want to know him, and allow his Wisdom to get past your hatred for me or anyone else who loves him and strives to do his will. You can call me names, and you can certainly make charges that I lack morals or have no Family values...that's easy to do, and you do it well. However it's harder to make those charges stick, just like it was harder for the Left to overcome the Truth about Judge Kavanaugh and stop him from being seated on that Court than it was easy for them to spread their disgusting lies and smears about him.

Much to their dislike, their smears didn't nor couldn't stop him. Similarly, much to your dismay, your lies about me and your inability to back them up also don't stop me from speaking the Truth about Abortion. Again, feel free to back up your groundless accusations about me, or point out anything in this thread I've posted that refutes my statements about infanticide...the very infanticide you in fact favor if you are so called "Pro Choice".

I know I'll be waiting for Hell itself to freeze over before you agree to do either, or even if you can.

@MountaineerWV

 

[atlkvb]

LMAO!

Ol' KVB is having a meltdown of Knoxlike proportions! I always knew he was crazy, but damned if he hasn't proved it with this little outburst?

This is what the Doc told you would happen if you went off your meds, KVB. But did you listen? Nooo....

OK...I'm "off my meds" and I'm now certified 'crazy'. Can you do me a favor and post a couple of my comments in this thread proving that? I just want some reassurance @MikeRafone so can 'ya help a Brother out?

Know what's crazy? You're probably "Pro Choice" correct? You also probably don't favor infanticide correct?

So how can you support one and not the other? Now that's crazy!

This thread was offered as a chance for you "Pro choice" social justice warriors to make your case for "choice" by proving it's not infanticide if you "choose" death. I don't see your posts either in support of "choice" or infanticide if the "choice" is death. That's crazy Bro.

You said I was. If you're "pro choice" you aren't?

 

[MikeRafone]

You prove it with your continual foaming at the mouth rants. It's a reasonable assumption by your current behavior you're plagued by some mental disorder. Add early onset of most chronic mental disorders to that and it's a safe bet to assume you're on meds.

Disturbed individuals always get defensive when their symptoms are pointed out, and you certainly did just that with your last post.

BTW, does highlighting my handle in blue mean I'm now on your "enemies list"? A classic sign of paranoia is listing your supposed enemies. You're certainly checking all the boxes with your posts.

Get to a doctor and get some help. I hate to see a man suffer for no reason.

 

[atlkvb]

You prove it with your continual foaming at the mouth rants. It's a reasonable assumption by your current behavior you're plagued by some mental disorder. Add early onset of most chronic mental disorders to that and it's a safe bet to assume you're on meds.

Disturbed individuals always get defensive when their symptoms are pointed out, and you certainly did just that with your last post.

BTW, does highlighting my handle in blue mean I'm now on your "enemies list"? A classic sign of paranoia is listing your supposed enemies. You're certainly checking all the boxes with your posts.

Get to a doctor and get some help. I hate to see a man suffer for no reason.

Hey Mike, go back and read post #68 (it's in English so it should be easy for 'ya to understand). I'll wait.......

OK...did 'ya read it? Good!

Now Mike my Man, what was the second sentence in that post? Go ahead, read it again. Did you do that?

And Mike you Rhodes scholar, what was the 6th question in that post I asked you? Did you answer it? Why not?

So finally Mike you miserable slanderer and illiterate poster, what was the point of the first sentence in your post #69 if you had the opportunity in that post to back up the smears about me you made way back in post #66, with no proof other your maniacal, irrational, hate filled Leftist drivel you all seem to be infested with these days? Why didn't you just explain yourself responding to me in post #68 as you were politely asked to do without pejorative name calling or smears I might add? Is that all you know? Are facts that anathema to your intellectual lexicon?

Rewind...try it again Mike, that smear wasn't good enough. Matter of fact, you failed.

 

[MikeRafone]

You prove my point every time you reply.

BTW, I'm not pro-choice. See what happens when you make assumptions? Once again you made a public fool of yourself. Think before you post. Sorry if I don't read them thoroughly as you'd like, but in your current state there's no point to read them. They're semi-lucid at best, and over the edge of reality at worst. Again get help.

I'm sorry if my intellect intimidates you? Some of us are gifted and some of us aren't. People resenting me for being bright is my cross to bear and has been all my life. You're just one of many. I don't hold your condition against you. I'm simply pointing it out so you're aware of it. Many people experiencing a mental crash aren't aware of it until it's completely out of control. Get checked out for your own good.

 

[bornaneer]

You prove my point every time you reply.

BTW, I'm not pro-choice.

Are you pro-life?

 

[Keyser76]

The rubes are like, sore winners? Lol, I love listening to men who want to separate kids from their folks at the border and force all pregnancies to term, just run on it and ignore the statistics on Roe vs. Wade, all who don't agree with you and ***** grabber are evil but there are some very fine folks on your bench! Political newbies thinking their demise is their rebirth. Love the condemnation of Taylor Swift by the way, lol.

 

[atlkvb]

You prove my point every time you reply.

BTW, I'm not pro-choice. See what happens when you make assumptions? Once again you made a public fool of yourself. Think before you post. Sorry if I don't read them thoroughly as you'd like, but in your current state there's no point to read them. They're semi-lucid at best, and over the edge of reality at worst. Again get help.

I'm sorry if my intellect intimidates you? Some of us are gifted and some of us aren't. People resenting me for being bright is my cross to bear and has been all my life. You're just one of many. I don't hold your condition against you. I'm simply pointing it out so you're aware of it. Many people experiencing a mental crash aren't aware of it until it's completely out of control. Get checked out for your own good.

OK Mike. Well the thread certainly isn't going anywhere so anytime you feel you need to log in and explain yourself the forum will be available for you. Until then you can join the others who have been 100% silent defending whatever the Hell it is they believe in when it comes to this issue.

Most of them are also against abortion but they don't want to "impose" their views on to others, that explains their maniacal opposition to Judge Kavanaugh.

 

[MikeRafone]

Well yeah, I'm a living, breathing being and don't relish the alternative, Born. However I don't go around blowing up clinics and shooting MD's because I'm pro-life. Two, as I'm never going to have child, I'm not going to tell a woman what to do, as it's a legal procedure. As the law stands, I'm not going commit acts of terrorism to change it. That's for the legislative branch and the courts to decide.

As for Kvb he's proven himself to be a very sick, twisted, pathetic creature with his posts in this thread. I feel sorry for someone in such a state of mind.

 

[MikeRafone]

KVB, I'm through with you. I'll be back on this thread or any other I choose, but it won't be to exchange ideas with you. You're disgusting and not worth my time.

 

[atlkvb]

Well yeah, I'm a living, breathing being and don't relish the alternative, Born. However I don't go around blowing up clinics and shooting MD's because I'm pro-life. Two, as I'm never going to have child, I'm not going to tell a woman what to do, as it's a legal procedure. As the law stands, I'm not going commit acts of terrorism to change it. That's for the legislative branch and the courts to decide.

As for Kvb he's proven himself to be a very sick, twisted, pathetic creature with his posts in this thread. I feel sorry for someone in such a state of mind.

See, you missed the whole point of the thread Mikey! Maybe take some time this weekend grab a Cup of Java and reread it again. I actually agreed with the pro-choice crowd! I support their killing of unwanted children. The only difference is I think it's cleaner more humane and more efficient to kill them after they're born instead of before, and allow the moms who don't want them to kill the fetuses themselves. Simple really. Totally 100% Pro Choice.

If you don't favor killing them at all you have no issues with me. If it is as you say, you don't want to tell another woman what to do you don't have to... it's her choice under my compromise legislation. So I'm simply asking for objections to the compromise legislation if the pro-choice crowd is convinced as you say that abortions are something we have no control over or at least should leave up to the women or the state legislatures.

I thought it was a reasonable, logical, and if I might be so bold... brilliant position to take to force the pro-choice crowd to agree on what it is they support which is in fact infanticide. So you see Mike your name calling and your pejorative assumptions about what my purpose was behind the thread simply missed the mark.

If you are pro-life, welcome I applaud that!
If you are pro-choice, then please explain to me what is wrong with giving women the "choice" to kill their unwanted children only waiting until they are born, and then killing the unwanted fetuses themselves as opposed to forcing taxpayers to pay for it while they allow someone else to kill them before they are born?

What's the difference Mikey Mike? We're just debating on when we allow Women to kill their own unwanted babies are we not? Don't we already allow them to do that? That's not crazy to you Mikey Mike? Well then, what's so crazy about my proposed "compromise" to end all of the fussing over this issue?

 

[atlkvb]

KVB, I'm through with you. I'll be back on this thread or any other I choose, but it won't be to exchange ideas with you. You're disgusting and not worth my time.

That's exactly the way Boomer ended our fictitious debate about this very thread. Bye Mikey!

 

[atlkvb]

KVB, I'm through with you. I'll be back on this thread or any other I choose, but it won't be to exchange ideas with you. You're disgusting and not worth my time.

It wasn't worth his time to debate me but I was worth his time to chime in on this thread and suggest I'm off meds or I'm crazy?

Sadly he didn't take the opportunity to make his case by simply reposting what I said in the thread that made him say I'm crazy? Instead he just calls me names and then when challenged to back up his specious claims, he simply chooses to run away from the debate! Typical Leftist....hit-and-run conflagrationist.

 

[mule_eer]

AS I type this, it looks like I will be post #80 in this thread. The first 3 posts are atlkvb. Of the 80 posts in this thread, atlkvb is 50 of them.