New Kavanaugh accuser Julie Swetnick details parties where girls were drugged and raped

atlkvb

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I have my doubts. My point was that IF they are true, Kavanaugh is responsible for his kids hearing about his involvement.

No Parent in their right mind would be a rapist and no Parent in their right mind would ever tell their kids they sponsored rape trains. C'mon Mule. I am glad you're skeptical of this garbage. My Faith in you as a good Dude is restored.
 

Pospecteer

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According to her, she was a junior in college attending high school parties.


This a huge red flag to me. When I read the letter, I thought, this guy needs to go. Once I really took my time to digest it, she actually does not make any real claims at all. She claims that he was there but other than that, it's all conjecture and states things in general terms without any factual statements. Things like, "making demeaning statements" "was in a line to go next" How does she know anyone in line was waiting their turn? Did they have a ticket dispenser like at a deli? She only says that these things happened but never once said she saw what was happening. In her own rape, she never stated that they were involved just that they were present? Present in the room? at the party, or present at the party but not when it happened?

She is two years older than anyone else at the party and if this was actually going on and she did nothing, I truly think that she is more to blame than the boys at the party.
 

TarHeelEer

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You've got ole Feinstein now.

Oh wait. Oops! Looks like the NYT had it since Sunday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/23/us/politics/kavanaugh-senate-calendar.html
Maybe she was young and arrogant back then and her perspective has changed through the years. Maybe she was hard up or a madam back then. Not sure why the focus is on that?

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DvlDog4WVU

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Maybe she was young and arrogant back then and her perspective has changed through the years. Maybe she was hard up or a madam back then. Not sure why the focus is on that?
I’m not focusing, I was merely asking. It’s part of the statement, why not dive into that as well. Could be as simple as you state.
 

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She's quite a bit older than the other people. She's 20 in 82 and not a child.
 

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This a huge red flag to me. When I read the letter, I thought, this guy needs to go. Once I really took my time to digest it, she actually does not make any real claims at all. She claims that he was there but other than that, it's all conjecture and states things in general terms without any factual statements. Things like, "making demeaning statements" "was in a line to go next" How does she know anyone in line was waiting their turn? Did they have a ticket dispenser like at a deli? She only says that these things happened but never once said she saw what was happening. In her own rape, she never stated that they were involved just that they were present? Present in the room? at the party, or present at the party but not when it happened?

She is two years older than anyone else at the party and if this was actually going on and she did nothing, I truly think that she is more to blame than the boys at the party.
Maybe she was mad cause nobody paid any attention to her.
 

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She's quite a bit older than the other people. She's 20 in 82 and not a child.
So she was hanging with underage kids where alcohol, drugs, and sex were happening...kind of pedophile-ish don't ya think
 

DvlDog4WVU

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This a huge red flag to me. When I read the letter, I thought, this guy needs to go. Once I really took my time to digest it, she actually does not make any real claims at all. She claims that he was there but other than that, it's all conjecture and states things in general terms without any factual statements. Things like, "making demeaning statements" "was in a line to go next" How does she know anyone in line was waiting their turn? Did they have a ticket dispenser like at a deli? She only says that these things happened but never once said she saw what was happening. In her own rape, she never stated that they were involved just that they were present? Present in the room? at the party, or present at the party but not when it happened?

She is two years older than anyone else at the party and if this was actually going on and she did nothing, I truly think that she is more to blame than the boys at the party.
Frat dudes being frat dudes I can acknowledge wouldn’t have the balls to stand up. Another woman regularly attending known rape rallies, mmmmmyea, wtf.
 

Airport

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So she was hanging with underage kids were alcohol, drugs, and sex were happening...kind of pedophile-ish don't ya think
If all this was happening, why have there been no reports when this was happening? Certainly one woman would have made a claim, if it was going on all the time.
 

Airport

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Bill Cosby.
Yeah, adult women were gang raped by him in full view of other people. He was standing outside the room. Everyone of these teenagers were powerful people in Hollywood and could destroy a person. If this was happening all the time, somebody is going to tell.
 

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Jane fonda has just come forward to say W C Fields shook his penis in her face.
 

mule_eer

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Yeah, adult women were gang raped by him in full view of other people. He was standing outside the room. Everyone of these teenagers were powerful people in Hollywood and could destroy a person. If this was happening all the time, somebody is going to tell.
Bill Cosby had victims dating back into the late 60's. He wasn't in a position of power. The bulk of the women assaulted, per the claim, were underage and drunk. There are potentially a lot of reasons why they wouldn't report, and one of them might be that they remembered very few details about the assaults - hard to prosecute people if you can't say who assaulted you.
 

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And a bunch of them didn't.
I believe he was found guilty on three counts in an incident with one woman who filed a criminal complaint in a timely fashion. I don't believe any of the other allegations have or will go to court.
 

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Frat dudes being frat dudes I can acknowledge wouldn’t have the balls to stand up. Another woman regularly attending known rape rallies, mmmmmyea, wtf.

My son when he was a sophomore in college (3 years ago) called me at 3:00 AM in the morning. Answering, I knew something was wrong. He went on to tell me that his roommates girl (friend) just said she was raped in his apartment ( his roommates bedroom) by some guy from another school who was visiting. The guy took off before she made the claim and wanted to know what to do. His other roommates wanted to let it blow over.

I told him to call the cops and be honest about everything that happened. He called the cops against his buddies wishes and the cops came. She told them that she was raped and they put out a very rigorous search in the area. They found the kid hiding in his car and arrested him. Four days later, she recanted her story and said that she was drunk and did not want her boyfriend to break up with her for cheating with him in his own bed.

Not sure what this has to do with this story but just goest to show you that it takes two to tango.
 

atlkvb

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The American people will put an end to this nonsense in a few weeks. People are livid, infuriated, boiling in anger over the indecency, debauchery, and abject unfairness of this entire spectacle.

If any of you remember how angry voters were over the House banking scandal...well this is that anger on steroids. There is nothing voters can do to stop the ongoing smears but they will remember the party responsible for spreading them. We'll hear from voters in about 7 1/2 weeks.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Items 11 - 13 are all we’re really talking about with Kavanaugh, correct? The rest is just chaff and typical high school puberty ****.

11 speculates to motive, which she can’t know. Are we saying anywhere there is jungle juice it’s a rape cocktail? Anytime you buy a woman a drink is for thenintent of taping her? Of course booze lowers inhibitions. Shocker!! Early 80s and drugs....before my time but something tells me it’s standard adolescent drug use. Into the parlance of my times, taking E was not about rape.

12 and 13 I think we’ve adequately parsed enough to not have to beat a dead horse.
 

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The American people will put an end to this nonsense in a few weeks. People are livid, infuriated, boiling in anger over the indecency, debauchery, and abject unfairness of this entire spectacle.

If any of you remember how angry voters were over the House banking scandal...well this is that anger on steroids. There is nothing voters can do to stop the ongoing smears but they will remember the party responsible for spreading them. We'll hear from voters in about 7 1/2 weeks.
lol
 

TarHeelEer

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Ok, I'm done.
  • She attended these 10 parties between '81 and '83
  • She was drugged and gang raped in '82
Meaning, not only did she not report it, she kept going back. Next.
 

atlkvb

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They must feel they have the votes to confirm.

Judge Kavanaugh will be confirmed. They (Left) can try to smear him, but they cannot stop him from sitting on the Supreme Court, and he will be a decades long thorn in the side of Leftist Socialist types constantly trying to undermine the Constitution which they all hate.

Well their hatred will be even more pronounced as Judge Kavanaugh simply uses the Constitution to dismantle and further discredit their failed ideology and legislative ideas. It's only a matter of a few more days of slogging through the Leftist filth being dredged up to stop him, then Senators will confirm his permenent and deserved seat on the Nation's highest court.

Patience folks.
 

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I don’t think you understand what the definition of victim blaming is. My question as it pertains to her is not an indictment of her being raped because...I’m separating the instance of her rape, which we can agree is tragic, from that of the other rape rallies she attended. The point I’m specifically making is that she attended these rape rallies and neither said or did anything about them. She actually watched them occur. My question to her would be A. why she would continue to attend them? B. Why she never said anything? C. Is she still friends with the girls she watched being gang raped? D. Total number of rape rallies she attended.

I wouldn’t dare question the validity of her experience nor would I presume to state her attendance enabled her tragic event. I’m gonna guess you either have a very low opinion of me to presume I’d victim shame her or you willfully chose to sidestep the actual intent of my question and used the “Hitler defense” thinking it’d work.

Are you unable/unwilling to separate the two lines of questioning? If so, that’s ok, just say so.

How did an athletic dr at MSU get away with molesting girls for decades?

I guess I just don’t understand the relevancy in your question. It either happened or it didn’t. On one side you have a credible woman with multiple security clearances who wrote a sworn testimony and is willing to take a polygraph and testify before Congress...and on the other side you got a guy who is already backing off his claims of never drinking in high school and whose yearbook reads like the script to Porky’s Revenge III: Animal House Redux

I know who I believe.

Asking that sort of question is just irrelevant. Keep on wondering why women don’t report. Lotta people gonna doe that hill so you won’t be the only one. Enjoy. Al Frankenstein sends his regards.