Been watching News @ 6 - Cannot fire Sessions because

[mneilmont]

that would leave Rosenburg to assume top job. Rosenburg would definitely be a problem because he has been anti Trump all along. He is a Hillary proponent.

Would the solution NOT be to tell Sessions to fire Rosenburg, or just fire Rosenburg and see how Sessions reacts over the next two weeks? As second in command, is Rosenburg not the boss of FBI and Justice which still not up to expectation. Also Rosenburg is a "will and pleasure" employee who can be removed without cause.

How can Trump be so stupid as to sit on his *** and back up from Rosenburg for all this time. There has been a need to have a turnover in that slot for a year and half. Why has he not been fired. Does he have documented proof of illegality against all?

 

[Airport]

Rosenstein

 

[mneilmont]

Rosenstein

Of course. The question remains, why is he not fired? Is there a legal matter in firing him? ?Fire the SOB and then look at Sessions contribution in the future. Of course I am looking at the other side. No potential illegal acts on Hillary team?

 

[Airport]

Of course. The question remains, why is he not fired? Is there a legal matter in firing him? ?Fire the SOB and then look at Sessions contribution in the future. Of course I am looking at the other side. No potential illegal acts on Hillary team?

Get rid of one swamp creature another takes his place. Sessions recusal was just plain stupid

 

[mneilmont]

Get rid of one swamp creature another takes his place. Sessions recusal was just plain stupid

Going forward, is there a reason not to fire Rosenstein?

 

[Airport]

Going forward, is there a reason not to fire Rosenstein?

Not sure, I can't tell anymore. Trump seems to like him in tweets

 

[Boomboom521]

So why do we want to fire Sessions?

 

[mneilmont]

Get rid of one swamp creature another takes his place. Sessions recusal was just plain stupid

I have seen legal minds say the recusal by Sessions was the appropriate step legally. Trump probably has inclination to kick the **** out of him for taking the AG job if he didn't want to be a Trump team player. Not suggesting he do things illegally.

Do you have memory of moves by Eric Holder? He simply ignored the law and did what he wanted(Now considering a run @POTUS).

 

[mneilmont]

So why do we want to fire Sessions?

Most AGs take the job with reality that he is a team player. Again I am not suggesting doing unlawful acts. Most supervisory positions at FBI and Justice needed to be turned over. I think it is still a nest of illegal acts. Clean house. Not an unusual step. All of the Agency heads are at pleasure of President.

 

[Airport]

I have seen legal minds say the recusal by Sessions was the appropriate step legally. Trump probably has inclination to kick the **** out of him for taking the AG job if he didn't want to be a Trump team player. Not suggesting he do things illegally.

Do you have memory of moves by Eric Holder? He simply ignored the law and did what he wanted(Now considering a run @POTUS).

Holder was held in contempt of congress. He wanted to circumvent the 2nd admendmdnt with fast and furious. Change the way people buy weapons. All it did was get people killed.

 

[Boomboom521]

Most AGs take the job with reality that he is a team player. Again I am not suggesting doing unlawful acts. Most supervisory positions at FBI and Justice needed to be turned over. I think it is still a nest of illegal acts. Clean house. Not an unusual step. All of the Agency heads are at pleasure of President.

He’s been in the position for a little over a year. You’re looking for that type of turnover at that position?

 

[mneilmont]

Holder was held in contempt of congress. He wanted to circumvent the 2nd admendmdnt with fast and furious. Change the way people buy weapons. All it did was get people killed.

He was simply an outlaw with a position in law enforcement.

He’s been in the position for a little over a year. You’re looking for that type of turnover at that position?

Not preferred, but no opposition to going thru some turnover in AG position. Maybe the next one will be there for duration of up to 6 years.

 

[Boomboom521]

He was simply an outlaw with a position in law enforcement.

Not preferred, but no opposition to going thru some turnover in AG position. Maybe the next one will be there for duration of up to 6 years.

Yet you have no sound reason for his removal....other than that the President (who is being investigated) wants him gone (as indictments and immunity offers get closer and closer to his inner circle)

 

[The Dunedein]

I have seen legal minds say the recusal by Sessions was the appropriate step legally. Trump probably has inclination to kick the **** out of him for taking the AG job if he didn't want to be a Trump team player. Not suggesting he do things illegally.

Do you have memory of moves by Eric Holder? He simply ignored the law and did what he wanted(Now considering a run @POTUS).

I did not think much of Eric Holder as AG. I do not particularly like Jeff Sessions. Ethically, though, recusing himself was the right action.

As Attorney General of the United States, his first and primary duty is to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the land. His job is not to be a “team player” for POTUS, and do the bidding of the President. If you believe (as you posted) that Holder was wrong to ignore the law, and if one wants to drain the swamp, why would one want to appoint a “team player” to do the bidding of POTUS (no matter who the President is at any particular time), which would simply make him a swamp creature? To have a democracy, the Attorney General and the Department of Justice must be independent-minded.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

lol...

 

[79eer]

As Attorney General of the United States, his first and primary duty is to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the land. His job is NOT to be a “team player” for POTUS, and do the BIDDING of the President. If you believe (as you posted) that Holder was wrong to ignore the law, and if one wants to drain the swamp, why would one want to appoint a “team player” to do the bidding of POTUS (no matter who the President is at any particular time), which would simply make him a swamp creature?

Eric Holder: “I'm still the president's wingman”

 

[mneilmont]

I did not think much of Eric Holder as AG. I do not particularly like Jeff Sessions. Ethically, though, recusing himself was the right action.

As Attorney General of the United States, his first and primary duty is to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the land. His job is not to be a “team player” for POTUS, and do the bidding of the President. If you believe (as you posted) that Holder was wrong to ignore the law, and if one wants to drain the swamp, why would one want to appoint a “team player” to do the bidding of POTUS (no matter who the President is at any particular time), which would simply make him a swamp creature? To have a democracy, the Attorney General and the Department of Justice must be independent-minded.

Don't disagree with your comment regarding abiding by the constitution. "Team Player" should not be interpreted as doing something outside the law and constitution.

Do you think Rosenstein has done a good job? Do you not agree that his work is worthy of termination? Do you disagree with my position to investigate Clinton team? Is there room to investigate their Clinton Charity? How about uranium deal? I do think they went outside the law enough to be investigated? Did Pinkerngton and partner lie about their investigation. The guy who polluted the computer refused to appear. IRS head , Lois Learner, took 5th. Should that be investigated or just drop it since she took 5th. Holder actions needs to be looked at more closely.

Some have escaped by statute of limitations, but those who have not have got to pay a penalty for totally ignoring law and thumbing nose at law enforcement. Message must be sent that we are a nation of laws that must be obeyed.

 

[The Dunedein]

Don't disagree with your comment regarding abiding by the constitution. "Team Player" should not be interpreted as doing something outside the law and constitution.

Do you think Rosenstein has done a good job? Do you not agree that his work is worthy of termination? Do you disagree with my position to investigate Clinton team? Is there room to investigate their Clinton Charity? How about uranium deal? I do think they went outside the law enough to be investigated? Did Pinkerngton and partner lie about their investigation. The guy who polluted the computer refused to appear. IRS head , Lois Learner, took 5th. Should that be investigated or just drop it since she took 5th. Holder actions needs to be looked at more closely.

Some have escaped by statute of limitations, but those who have not have got to pay a penalty for totally ignoring law and thumbing nose at law enforcement. Message must be sent that we are a nation of laws that must be obeyed.

I have repeatedly maintained that if there is reasonable cause to investigate and prosecute anyone in government, do it. Make every one of these folks accountable. Political prosecutions are beyond the pale, but substantive prosecutions are a normal part of our democracy.

 

[JWG66]

Holder was held in contempt of congress. He wanted to circumvent the 2nd admendmdnt with fast and furious. Change the way people buy weapons. All it did was get people killed.

The contempt really changed his actions. Congress really has no legal power.

 

[Airport]

The contempt really changed his actions. Congress really has no legal power.

You are correct about powers and nothing changed. He was still a lawless AG

 

[mneilmont]

Yet you have no sound reason for his removal....other than that the President (who is being investigated) wants him gone (as indictments and immunity offers get closer and closer to his inner circle)

None needed for termination of will and pleasure employee. People may talk about you for making such termination, but it is a good termination. President has no legal exposure in federal court for taking such action. The ugly part is that he can forgive any act in in federal law(within reason).

Prosecution is making a move to transfer legal action into state court where president has no power of forgiveness. Sounds like NY courts are going to play along. This is cute move. Spend federal money(endless stream of taxpayer money) to make a case and then turn it over to State courts. States do not have endless funds to make these cases because it would be too expensive. So, allow feds to make case and allow State to prosecute. This is where President can have vulnerability. Be tried in State court.

Cute move. Perfect case for collusion. Two governments acting in coordination. Also it is the definition of RICO Act(by two governments).