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DvlDog4WVU

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I mean...come the **** on. At least read the **** you throw.
Logically, you’re going to tell me with a straight face that this guy wasn’t acting out of hate fueled emotions stemming from the BLM movement?
 

CpEER

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Logically, you’re going to tell me with a straight face that this guy wasn’t acting out of hate fueled emotions stemming from the BLM movement?

For those keeping score at home:

1) The entire Democratic Party is trying to assassinate cops.

2) Well just this one guy who I don’t even know is a Democrat but he was definitely linked to radical groups

3) And by linked I mean he “liked” some things on Facebook

4) Ok not linked but he most definitely was inspired because some black folks got uppity and said “stop shooting us!”

This is literally how your argument has evolved in just a couple short hours. Hopefully you can now see the ridiculousness in what you are claiming. There is nothing logical about it...and my face is as straight as Burt Reynolds.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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For those keeping score at home:

1) The entire Democratic Party is trying to assassinate cops.

2) Well just this one guy who I don’t even know is a Democrat but he was definitely linked to radical groups

3) And by linked I mean he “liked” some things on Facebook

4) Ok not linked but he most definitely was inspired because some black folks got uppity and said “stop shooting us!”

This is literally how your argument has evolved in just a couple short hours. Hopefully you can now see the ridiculousness in what you are claiming. There is nothing logical about it...and my face is as straight as Burt Reynolds.
Ok, fine with me if you’re unwilling to admit his motivation and resort to hyperbolic scenario painting. It’s as easy as just saying, “yea, the guy was a nut.” But hey, the guy who shot up the GOP softball practice, I’m sure he’s just another stable guy with unrelated motives.

This is why you guys are and will continue to lose. Take Dylan Roof for example, unanimous condemnation from those of us on the right. Looney in Dallas? Whataboutism from the left.
 

CpEER

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Ok, fine with me if you’re unwilling to admit his motivation and resort to hyperbolic scenario painting. It’s as easy as just saying, “yea, the guy was a nut.” But hey, the guy who shot up the GOP softball practice, I’m sure he’s just another stable guy with unrelated motives.

This is why you guys are and will continue to lose. Take Dylan Roof for example, unanimous condemnation from those of us on the right. Looney in Dallas? Whataboutism from the left.

I’m literally telling you in this very thread that it’s ridiculous to blame a whole political party on the actions of one person (because that’s exactly what you did!) and here you are claiming that I am. I mean...jfc. Take the L and move on.

And the right won its first presidential election in a decade (and still lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes) and here you are acting like your the New England ******* Patriots. Get a grip, comrade.
 

CpEER

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Ok, fine with me if you’re unwilling to admit his motivation and resort to hyperbolic scenario painting. It’s as easy as just saying, “yea, the guy was a nut.” But hey, the guy who shot up the GOP softball practice, I’m sure he’s just another stable guy with unrelated motives.

This is why you guys are and will continue to lose. Take Dylan Roof for example, unanimous condemnation from those of us on the right. Looney in Dallas? Whataboutism from the left.

What about the “very fine people” who drove over Heather Hayer in Charlottesville?
 

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DvlDog4WVU

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What about the “very fine people” who drove over Heather Hayer in Charlottesville?
Go back and pull the threads. No support from the right on the Nazis. Go back and pull the threads on Antifa and BLM, nothing but rationalizations and whataboutism from the left.
 

CpEER

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Go back and pull the threads. No support from the right on the Nazis. Go back and pull the threads on Antifa and BLM, nothing but rationalizations and whataboutism from the left.

“Go prove my point for me!”

No thanks.

Meanwhile, I just gave you an example of Dear Leader playing the whattaboutism card that you insist only the libs do. Open your eyes. You’re missing a lot.
 

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I haven't heard paranoia like this since I was a teenage stoner.

The Righties on this thread need to go on their porches with their shotguns and binoculars to knock down the Deep State mini-drones that keep them under constant surveillance. Kick in your big screen TV's, too. They send audio and footage about you back to the evil Liberal Media. It's big I tell you, big!
 

DvlDog4WVU

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“Go prove my point for me!”

No thanks.

Meanwhile, I just gave you an example of Dear Leader playing the whattaboutism card that you insist only the libs do. Open your eyes. You’re missing a lot.
You did no such thing.

Dear Leader’s comments were on the first day of the Charlottesville incident. During that day, there were individuals there solely in support of keeping the statue from historical perspective and from a southern heritage and historical preservation perspective as well as peaceful protesters in opposition. The Nazis and Antifa weren’t in play yet. The Nazis had only marched the evening before.

The President was trying to create a distinction between the Nazis/Antifa and regular folk so they didn’t all get lumped into one big group of hate. It’s been convenient for you all to lump it all together to further your narrative that he’s a racist, because that’s what you sorry fvcks do. You’re all weak pissy pants little girls that cry racism.
 

dave

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I haven't heard paranoia like this since I was a teenage stoner.

The Righties on this thread need to go on their porches with their shotguns and binoculars to knock down the Deep State mini-drones that keep them under constant surveillance. Kick in your big screen TV's, too. They send audio and footage about you back to the evil Liberal Media. It's big I tell you, big!
Paranoia? All I see is people who wonder what exactly happened because the explanation so far doesnt add up.
 

CpEER

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You did no such thing.

Dear Leader’s comments were on the first day of the Charlottesville incident.

I’m going to stop you right there. Here is the transcript of the press conference he gave a full three days after the incident.

———
Q: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?

Trump: I think there is blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there is blame object both on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You don't have doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
———

And let’s not rewrite history and try pretend that the people attending the Unite the Right Rally were some innocent historical preservationists. They were there white supremacists through and through.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally





These are the people behind the Unite the Right Rally. These people are racists *****. If you defend “that side” then you too are a racist ****.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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I’m going to stop you right there. Here is the transcript of the press conference he gave a full three days after the incident.

———
Q: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?

Trump: I think there is blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there is blame object both on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You don't have doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
———

And let’s not rewrite history and try pretend that the people attending the Unite the Right Rally were some innocent historical preservationists. They were there white supremacists through and through.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally





These are the people behind the Unite the Right Rally. These people are racists ****s. If you defend “that side” then you too are a racist ****.

So in summation:

There was hatred and violence on both side and there were fine people on both sides. I’d say it’s a very accurate statement. Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization. The Nazis are as well. Both groups are pieces of ****.
 

CpEER

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So in summation:

There was hatred and violence on both side and there were fine people on both sides. I’d say it’s a very accurate statement. Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization. The Nazis are as well. Both groups are pieces of ****.

Sure if you put racists and racists and people who are against racists and fascists on the same moral plane.

I personally don’t.
 

Boomboom521

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What do I have wrong about this?

1) group of white nationalists organize on a college campus, carrying torches, chanting “whose streets? Our streets!”

2) the next day the same group organizes to protest the taking down of Confederate statues

3) a group of anti-protesters organize to protest the protesters. Some of which are Antifa nutjobs....who are literally there to protest the white nationalist fascists on site

4) violence ensues - person is killed by a nutjob driving his car into crowd of anti-protesters

5) President blames both sides and hails “good people” on both sides

6) left says “the white nationalists are to blame”.......right says “Antifa AND Nazis are to blame.......and we can’t take down Confederate statues because it’s erasing history”

If someone justifies the presence of Antifa at the site, theyre using whataboutism to condone violence? If someone justifies the presence of Nazis at the site, they’re just defending history?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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What do I have wrong about this?

1) group of white nationalists organize on a college campus, carrying torches, chanting “whose streets? Our streets!”

2) the next day the same group organizes to protest the taking down of Confederate statues

3) a group of anti-protesters organize to protest the protesters. Some of which are Antifa nutjobs....who are literally there to protest the white nationalist fascists on site

4) violence ensues - person is killed by a nutjob driving his car into crowd of anti-protesters

5) President blames both sides and hails “good people” on both sides

6) left says “the white nationalists are to blame”.......right says “Antifa AND Nazis are to blame.......and we can’t take down Confederate statues because it’s erasing history”

If someone justifies the presence of Antifa at the site, theyre using whataboutism to condone violence? If someone justifies the presence of Nazis at the site, they’re just defending history?
The very last part
 

DvlDog4WVU

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What do I have wrong about this?

1) group of white nationalists organize on a college campus, carrying torches, chanting “whose streets? Our streets!”

2) the next day the same group organizes to protest the taking down of Confederate statues

3) a group of anti-protesters organize to protest the protesters. Some of which are Antifa nutjobs....who are literally there to protest the white nationalist fascists on site

4) violence ensues - person is killed by a nutjob driving his car into crowd of anti-protesters

5) President blames both sides and hails “good people” on both sides

6) left says “the white nationalists are to blame”.......right says “Antifa AND Nazis are to blame.......and we can’t take down Confederate statues because it’s erasing history”

If someone justifies the presence of Antifa at the site, theyre using whataboutism to condone violence? If someone justifies the presence of Nazis at the site, they’re just defending history?
And the lack of acknowledgement that there were people there who were merely wanting to protect Southern Heritage and Historical Preservation that weren’t Nazis.
 

Boomboom521

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And the lack of acknowledgement that there were people there who were merely wanting to protect Southern Heritage and Historical Preservation that weren’t Nazis.
**** southern heritage

You cannot glaze over the acts the night before.....those chants and torches were setting the stage. The desire was to bring out leftist nut jobs, so people like you and President knowitall can defend the sentiment of white dominance in the US through the seemingly innocent process of “protecting heritage and history”......Bullsh1t
 

CpEER

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And the lack of acknowledgement that there were people there who were merely wanting to protect Southern Heritage and Historical Preservation that weren’t Nazis.

Do you have any proof of this? I posted an article and videos showing that they were very much nazis and white supremacists who organized and attended the rally. You say that there were “good people” there. Am I supposed to just take your word? Sorry. I won’t.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Do you have any proof of this? I posted an article and videos showing that they were very much nazis and white supremacists who organized and attended the rally. You say that there were “good people” there. Am I supposed to just take your word? Sorry. I won’t.
Ok
 

DvlDog4WVU

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**** southern heritage

You cannot glaze over the acts the night before.....those chants and torches were setting the stage. The desire was to bring out leftist nut jobs, so people like you and President knowitall can defend the sentiment of white dominance in the US through the seemingly innocent process of “protecting heritage and history”......Bullsh1t
I’m not glazing it over. I’m just not allowing the leftist narrative that the only people there were Nazis and the heroic defenders of freedom on the left. It’s ********. I’ve actually been consistent in stating that I condemned the Nazis/White Supremacists and their behavior. I’m also ambivalent to the removal of statues. I simply don’t care. Let’s not pretend though that Southern Heritage is simply racism, I mean I know you will, but it’s far more complex than that. It was a byproduct of reconstruction efforts that allowed us to rebuild and reunite our nation.
 

Boomboom521

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I’m not glazing it over. I’m just not allowing the leftist narrative that the only people there were Nazis and the heroic defenders of freedom on the left. It’s ********. I’ve actually been consistent in stating that I condemned the Nazis/White Supremacists and their behavior. I’m also ambivalent to the removal of statues. I simply don’t care. Let’s not pretend though that Southern Heritage is simply racism, I mean I know you will, but it’s far more complex than that. It was a byproduct of reconstruction efforts that allowed us to rebuild and reunite our nation.
I understand the complexity of the history of this nation. But any “heritage” that needs to be kept alive by statues, should probably just fvcking die anyway.
 

CpEER

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So no proof? Got it.


I’m not glazing it over. I’m just not allowing the leftist narrative that the only people there were Nazis and the heroic defenders of freedom on the left. It’s ********. I’ve actually been consistent in stating that I condemned the Nazis/White Supremacists and their behavior. I’m also ambivalent to the removal of statues. I simply don’t care. Let’s not pretend though that Southern Heritage is simply racism, I mean I know you will, but it’s far more complex than that. It was a byproduct of reconstruction efforts that allowed us to rebuild and reunite our nation.

Absolute ********. The Robert E Lee Statue was erected in 1924. That’s almost 50 years AFTER the reconstruction period.

These statues were erected during the Jim Crow era and I think we can guess why. But don’t take my word on it. Here’s some leftist ******** narrative from the History Channel.

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments
 

rog1187

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So no proof? Got it.




Absolute ********. The Robert E Lee Statue was erected in 1924. That’s almost 50 years AFTER the reconstruction period.

These statues were erected during the Jim Crow era and I think we can guess why. But don’t take my word on it. Here’s some leftist ******** narrative from the History Channel.

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments
Here's a good read on whether or not statues should remain - https://www.nbcnews.com/think/news/opinion-why-i-feel-confederate-monuments-should-stay-ncna767221
 

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These are the people behind the Unite the Right Rally. These people are racists ****s. If you defend “that side” then you too are a racist ****.

I get it now. So every last person at Charlottesville was a racist, but everyone at Dallas isn't a cop killing hater. I imagine you like how that logic works.
 

CpEER

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I get it now. So every last person at Charlottesville was a racist, but everyone at Dallas isn't a cop killing hater. I imagine you like how that logic works.

Please try to keep up. The assertion was made that there was some sort peaceful rally to save the statue on that day. This is simply not the case. The Unite the Right Rally was organized by racists for racists.

Again...this might help...





https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

And no...I know not every person in Charlottesville that day was a racist. There were some there punching racists. I like those kind of people.
 

dave

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I understand the complexity of the history of this nation. But any “heritage” that needs to be kept alive by statues, should probably just fvcking die anyway.
I will let the greeks and romans know how you feel.
 

dave

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And no...I know not every person in Charlottesville that day was a racist. There were some there punching racists. I like those kind of people.
So you are against free speech. Got it.
 

TarHeelEer

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Please try to keep up. The assertion was made that there was some sort peaceful rally to save the statue on that day. This is simply not the case. The Unite the Right Rally was organized by racists for racists.

Again...this might help...





https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

And no...I know not every person in Charlottesville that day was a racist. There were some there punching racists. I like those kind of people.


I got you the first time. You can generalize the right, but you do not the left.
 

CpEER

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So you are against free speech. Got it.

Nope. I’m all for freedom of speech and I’m all for dumb people feeing the consequences of their actions. In this case...a punch is that consequence. Got it?
 
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