13-year old facing felony charge for "eavesdropping"

MountaineerWV

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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/13-...s-charged-eavesdropping-felony-163354136.html

A 13-year-old Illinois student has been charged with a Class 4 felony count of eavesdropping after recording a conversation with his school principal on his cellphone, according to Illinois Policy, an independent public policy group that lobbies for personal freedom.

Paul Boron, a student at Manteno Middle School in Manteno, Ill., reportedly fell afoul of the state’s eavesdropping law when he met with his principal and assistant principal on Feb. 16.

Boron used his cellphone to record audio from his conversation about detentions with Principal David Conrad and his assistant principal, Nathan Short. When Boron told the men that he was recording their 10-minute discussion, which took place in the reception area of the school secretary’s office with the door open, Conrad allegedly ended the conversation and warned him that he was breaking the law.
 

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After what happened to Lindsey Shepaherd at her college in Canada I'm all in favor of these kinds of convos being recorded. Lindsey recorded her convo and it was the only reason she didn't end up getting crushed.
 

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After what happened to Lindsey Shepaherd at her college in Canada I'm all in favor of these kinds of convos being recorded. Lindsey recorded her convo and it was the only reason she didn't end up getting crushed.
Not familiar with that story. Googler didn’t give me anything. What was it.
 

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Not familiar with that story. Googler didn’t give me anything. What was it.

If Google didn't give you anything then you must have misspelled something. She's a grad student at a university in Canada. In a course she was teaching she showed a clip from a Canadian TV show named "The Agenda." It's a show where people sit and rationally discuss social and political issues. The clip she showed involved which pronouns to use for trans people. The now somewhat famous Jordan Peterson was on the show, among others.

She just showed a clip to illustrate a point about the discussion and she didn't take any stance at all on the subject. But anyway, she got called in for a scolding by three faculty members for it. I'm not sure how they even know it happened. Maybe one of them was in the class and observing. The initial story was that one of the students complained but that turned out not to be true. IOW, she got a scolding for something that nobody even complained about. Keep in mind, this TV show was something that showed on national TV in Canada for an hour (or however long) and she just showed a few minutes of it.

But anyway, she took her laptop to the meeting and unbeknownst to the three faculty that called her in, she audiotaped it with her laptop. And then released it afterwards. And the three faculty members come off badly. But if she hadn't recorded it it would have been her word against theirs and of course nobody would have believed her.

It was and still is big news in Canada and she has become somewhat of a hero to defenders of freedom of expression.

Here's one article on it from a Canadian magazine. There's way more out there on the web.

https://www.macleans.ca/lindsay-shepherd-wilfrid-laurier/

And here is the actual audio. Note when the faculty refer to students that complain, they're lying. Nobody complained. It's creepy how they try to cow her. It's like 40 minutes long but the thing is, it's real. This was a real conference of three real faculty members calling in a real student and the only reason anyone outside those four people know what happened is because Lindsey recorded it.

 

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If Google didn't give you anything then you must have misspelled something. She's a grad student at a university in Canada. In a course she was teaching she showed a clip from a Canadian TV show named "The Agenda." It's a show where people sit and rationally discuss social and political issues. The clip she showed involved which pronouns to use for trans people. The now somewhat famous Jordan Peterson was on the show, among others.

She just showed a clip to illustrate a point about the discussion and she didn't take any stance at all on the subject. But anyway, she got called in for a scolding by three faculty members for it. I'm not sure how they even know it happened. Maybe one of them was in the class and observing. The initial story was that one of the students complained but that turned out not to be true. IOW, she got a scolding for something that nobody even complained about. Keep in mind, this TV show was something that showed on national TV in Canada for an hour (or however long) and she just showed a few minutes of it.

But anyway, she took her laptop to the meeting and unbeknownst to the three faculty that called her in, she audiotaped it with her laptop. And then released it afterwards. And the three faculty members come off badly. But if she hadn't recorded it it would have been her word against theirs and of course nobody would have believed her.

It was and still is big news in Canada and she has become somewhat of a hero to defenders of freedom of expression.

Here's one article on it from a Canadian magazine. There's way more out there on the web.

https://www.macleans.ca/lindsay-shepherd-wilfrid-laurier/

And here is the actual audio. Note when the faculty refer to students that complain, they're lying. Nobody complained. It's creepy how they try to cow her. It's like 40 minutes long but the thing is, it's real. This was a real conference of three real faculty members calling in a real student and the only reason anyone outside those four people know what happened is because Lindsey recorded it.


I listened to a fair amount of that recording. I really loved how one guy kept talking about the need to use things that would pass as peer reviewed research. She's teaching grammar, and they were talking about pronoun usage. I really hope there isn't a "Journal of Grammar" that peer reviews pronoun research.