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Thank you! Geez, I thought I was the only one aware of this cats internal high school gymnasium of voices
 

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That’s what the discussion was about? Whether Coop agreed with Trumps proposed cuts?

He said Trump wouldn't sign a budget without deficit spending. I said let's see what his upcoming budget proposes before he criticizes him, or why criticize him for something he hasn't done yet?

Trump's first budget did have deficit spending, but it also included billions more in cuts (I linked to it) How can you criticize him for deficit spending, when he's proposing billions more in cuts you just overlook?

I said let's see what his next budget proposal looks like in terms of reducing (not eliminating) deficit spending? It's not like he can order Congress to spend less money. They have a role here too, and no one was happy with their "omnibus" sham. We'll get another chance to see what they're all made of this Fall. Trump's already said he won't sign another scam like that.

Let's see how many of you penny counters on the Left support whatever they come up with?
 

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Ummmm I didn't support his budget because it exploded the deficit and the debt? Do you even remember what we are talking about? Are the words showing up on your screen or is it just voices at this point?

No voices...just show me your posts that supported the cuts Trump did propose since you're so upset with his "deficit" spending or "explosion" of the debt?

Your silence is expected.
 

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No voices...just show me your posts that supported the cuts Trump did propose since you're so upset with his "deficit" spending or "explosion" of the debt?

Your silence is expected.
I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp....there are no posts of me supporting the cuts because the cuts do not move the needle on the deficit or the debt. It's like a broad going to the mall and spending 2.6 million dollars on shoes, but not buying a latte at Starbucks. That's not a cut. It's a net increase in the deficit and the debt. As a self described fiscal conservative (LMAO) you should at least pretend to understand this.
 

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Like Trump would sign a balanced budget, let alone a deficit reducing one. :joy::joy::joy:

He hasn't proposed a budget yet? You going with that?

Huh? I'm laughing at the thought he would ever sign a balanced or deficit reducing budget. Have you seen his submitted budgets? Teenage girls have better fiscal restraint than him.
Coop is commenting on what actually has happened. You’re expecting something that hasn’t happened yet, and shouldn’t be expected (given the actual proposed budgets). Then saying Coop is a fraud for not supporting the phantom budget, and for not supporting cuts attached to a budget that increased the deficit?

It takes a special kinda crazy to think that makes sense
 

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I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp....there are no posts of me supporting the cuts because the cuts do not move the needle on the deficit or the debt. It's like a broad going to the mall and spending 2.6 million dollars on shoes, but not buying a latte at Starbucks. That's not a cut. It's a net increase in the deficit and the debt. As a self described fiscal conservative (LMAO) you should at least pretend to understand this.
Yeah....but it helps him feel superior and helps him think he wins an argument.
 

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He said Trump wouldn't sign a budget without deficit spending. I said let's see what his upcoming budget proposes before he criticizes him, or why criticize him for something he hasn't done yet?
Right. Past budgets and his record of statements, both on the trail and since in office, don't count.

Trump's first budget did have deficit spending, but it also included billions more in cuts (I linked to it) How can you criticize him for deficit spending, when he's proposing billions more in cuts you just overlook?
Because the "cuts" don't come anywhere near matching the increases, thus a bigger deficit and more debt. It's literally gov'l acctg 101. Like first day ****.
 

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I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to grasp....there are no posts of me supporting the cuts because the cuts do not move the needle on the deficit or the debt. It's like a broad going to the mall and spending 2.6 million dollars on shoes, but not buying a latte at Starbucks. That's not a cut. It's a net increase in the deficit and the debt. As a self described fiscal conservative (LMAO) you should at least pretend to understand this.

Newsflash Coop..I'd cut the Hell out of EVERYTHING and start at zero if I was making the rules! I'm not happy at all with deficit spending. We cut taxes, and despite all of the hand wringing & carping from the Left... revenues to the treasury are increasing not decreasing!

Why don't we just allocate all of that extra money coming in toward deficit reduction instead of spending it? I'd support that. Do you, or are you on board with just spending all of that too?
 

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Newsflash Coop..I'd cut the Hell out of EVERYTHING and start at zero if I was making the rules! I'm not happy at all with deficit spending. We cut taxes, and despite all of the hand wringing & carping from the Left... revenues to the treasury are increasing not decreasing!

Why don't we just allocate all of that extra money coming in toward deficit reduction instead of spending it? I'd support that. Do you, or are you on board with just spending all of that too?
Juke
 

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Newsflash Coop..I'd cut the Hell out of EVERYTHING and start at zero if I was making the rules! I'm not happy at all with deficit spending. We cut taxes, and despite all of the hand wringing & carping from the Left... revenues to the treasury are increasing not decreasing!

Why don't we just allocate all of that extra money coming in toward deficit reduction instead of spending it? I'd support that. Do you, or are you on board with just spending all of that too?
Of course I do. The President does not, HENCE my posts in this thread.

Is this thing on???
 

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You're just frustrated that you can't stop me from doing this on you every time we square off.
I tell you what....big man....you can have the discussion board glory. You obviously need it. Is nobody jackin you today? Go start another jacking thread about how great one of your wingers are, I’m sure you’ll get a reach around
 

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Of course I do. The President does not, HENCE my posts in this thread.

Is this thing on???

If you were genuine and not such a two faced Conservative phony, you'd support what Trump proposed we cut instead of criticizing him only for what we spent. If you were sincere about deficit reduction, you'd support BOTH zero based budgeting and a balanced budget amendment as well as making the tax cuts permanent and entitlement reforms (that's where the money is) How much of that Conservative agenda do you support Coop?

 
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I tell you what....big man....you can have the discussion board glory. You obviously need it. Is nobody jackin you today? Go start another jacking thread about how great one of your wingers are, I’m sure you’ll get a reach around

You can't stop me, so you just lash out. Check the scoreboard boom. I can repost the last thread I chased you off from.
 

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If you were genuine and not such a two faced Conservative phony, you'd support what Trump proposed we cut instead of criticize him for what we spent.
lmao. This is breathtakingly stupid. I tried @Boomboom521 but I really can't waste time with someone that has zero grasp on economics and gov'l accounting. Best of luck.
 

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I think someone knows he’s s fraud himself...that’s why he throws the term around.

All you have are personal insults boom...you can't handle anything I say on substance. Try this one:

"Tell me the major legislative proposal on the Left that is superior to Trump's tax cuts which have nearly doubled GDP in less than a year?

It just frustrates the Hell out of you that you have no answer to that question! So you just attack me personally. You got no game. It's the exact same thing the rest of the Left does regarding Trump. You can't defeat him legislatively, you have no better answers to his agenda so you just try to smear him with raw hatred.

That's OK...you'll still lose. Just like I take you to the hole...all day...everyday! In your face boom.
 
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atlkvb

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Boy look at Jordan go....asking questions

It's a visual allegory boom... meant to demonstrate how effectively I can shut you up or shut you down verbally (with political commentary) so that you can't come back at me with a better position. An in-your-face-slam-dunk!

Want a demonstration?

I predict you will refuse to answer the following question (honestly) or if you attempt to answer it, you will dance around the question and bring in details ancillary to the essential question to avoid admitting the Truth which is really quite simple and something you constantly struggle to admit. OK?

Watch...

Boomer....Which legislative proposal between Obama and Trump that each implemented worked better for Blacks to improve their unemployment numbers. Obama's "stimulus plan" or Trump's tax cuts? Who's plan has worked better for Blacks in terms of lowering their overall numbers of unemployment? I say Trump's tax plan has been better. Am I wrong?

Watch this.
 
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I literally cannot follow your nonsense. Trump's most recent budget, even with the loftiest of lofty GDP estimates, massively exploded the debt/deficit. The GOP is in charge of the WH and both chambers of Congress so you blame....Nancy Pelosi?? lmao.

At least you figured out how to post gifs!!! Congrats old timer!


Says the old, creepy, overweight guy who talks like a 13 year old girl to try and act younger than he really is. #creep #lowselfesteem

 

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Says the old, creepy, overweight guy who talks like a 13 year old girl to try and act younger than he really is. #creep #lowselfesteem


You crack me up 007! Coop is just a fraud... just like the rest of the Left. That's probably why he insists he's not on the Left...he doesn't want to be associated with what he is!
 

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You crack me up 007! Coop is just a fraud... just like the rest of the Left. That's probably why he insists he's not on the Left...he doesn't want to be associated with what he is!

He can't use the I'm a conservative ******** anymore. He lost all credibility a few years ago.
 

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He can't use the I'm a conservative ******** anymore. He lost all credibility a few years ago.

I will post this after anything he posts to me from now on 007...he was complaining about Trump's deficits and never once bothered to say what cuts he supported in Trump's first budget?

 

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It's a visual allegory boom...to demonstrate how effectively I can shut you up or shut you down verbally (with political commentary) or that you can't come back on me with a better position.

Want a demonstration?

I predict you will refuse to answer the following question (honestly) or if you attempt to answer it, you will dance around the question and bring in details ancillary to the essential question to avoid admitting the Truth which is really quite simple and something you constantly struggle to admit. OK?

Watch...

Boomer....Which legislative proposal between Obama and Trump that each implemented worked better for Blacks to improve their unemployment numbers. Obama's "stimulus plan" or Trump's tax cuts? Who's plan has worked better for Blacks in terms of lowering their overall numbers of unemployment? I say Trump's tax plan has been better. Am I wrong?

Watch this.
8 years of policy taking over an economy that was in an enormous recession— versus — one year of policy implemented during a positively trending economy. I’m not sure that question wasn’t loaded. Are we judging an administration’s policy on a one year snapshot? Tax cuts are surely a better short term stimulant for job growth.

How about you tell me first hand how those Trump policies have directly impacted your area then. Aren’t you on his commission with all your free time?
 

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8 years of policy taking over an economy that was in an enormous recession— versus — one year of policy implemented during a positively trending economy. I’m not sure that question wasn’t loaded. Are we judging an administration’s policy on a one year snapshot? Tax cuts are surely a better short term stimulant for job growth.

How about you tell me first hand how those Trump policies have directly impacted your area then. Aren’t you on his commission with all your free time?

See what I mean? WTF does my voluntary service on Trump's minority business advisory panel have to do with the question I asked you? OK then fine, compare Obama's 8 years of "stimulus" to however long Trump's tax cuts have been operational. Who's plan has worked better to improve the unemployment of Black folks?

You're a piece of work my Man... Plus you got no game!
 
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I predict you will refuse to answer the following question (honestly)

I’m not sure that question wasn’t loaded


if you attempt to answer it, you will dance around the question

Are we judging an administration’s policy on a one year snapshot?




and bring in details ancillary to the essential question to avoid admitting the Truth

8 years of policy taking over an economy that was in an enormous recession

— versus — one year of policy implemented during a positively trending economy.


Then you had the nerve to ask

How about you tell me first hand how those Trump policies have directly impacted your area then.

Aren’t you on his commission with all your free time?

Which has nothing to do with the direct question of who's policy has worked overall better for Black unemployment? Maybe the actual numbers can help you boom?
Data extracted on: June 5, 2018 (5:49:17 PM)



Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey

Series Id: LNS14000006
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Unemployment Rate - Black or African American
Labor force status: Unemployment rate
Type of data: Percent or rate
Age: 16 years and over
Race: Black or African American


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Year
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
2008
9.1 8.4 9.2 8.6 9.6 9.4 10.0 10.6 11.3 11.4 11.5 12.1
2009 12.7 13.7 13.7 15.0 15.0 14.8 14.8 14.8 15.3 15.8 15.7 16.1
2010 16.5 16.1 16.8 16.6 15.5 15.2 15.6 15.9 16.0 15.6 16.2 15.5
2011 15.8 15.5 15.8 16.5 16.3 16.2 15.9 16.4 15.9 14.6 15.6 15.4
2012 13.6 14.0 14.0 13.3 13.5 14.5 14.2 13.8 13.6 14.1 13.3 14.0
2013 13.7 13.8 13.0 13.3 13.4 14.2 12.6 12.8 13.0 12.8 12.3 11.9
2014 12.1 11.8 12.1 11.5 11.4 11.0 11.6 11.4 11.0 10.6 10.9 10.6
2015 10.4 10.2 10.0 9.7 10.3 9.6 9.1 9.3 9.2 9.0 9.3 8.5
2016 8.9 8.7 9.0 8.9 8.2 8.7 8.4 8.0 8.3 8.3 7.9 7.9
2017 7.8 8.1 8.0 7.9 7.6 7.1 7.4 7.6 7.0 7.3 7.2 6.8
2018 7.7 6.9 6.9 6.6 5.9 = (lowest in history)
 

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Depends on a lot of variables, doesn’t it?

Actually no. It depends on one constant. Allowing the American people who earn the money that Government wastes to keep it instead of turning it over to them to "redistribute". Make the tax cuts deeper & permanent, and reduce runaway Government deficit spending and you will see this economy boom like nothing Obama could have imagined in his most Socialist of wet dreams.
 

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The Party of Hate has done nothing but preach hatred and obstruct.

The Party of Hate doesn't deserve any breaks. They weren't elected to spread hate and obstruct. Quit being ***** babies, crying over Hilliary's loss. Get your pacifiers out, suck it up and do your job.
 

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Because the "cuts" don't come anywhere near matching the increases, thus a bigger deficit and more debt. It's literally gov'l acctg 101. Like first day ****.

So Coop you "deficit hawk" I'm sure you remember Obama calling Bush's deficits "unpatriotic"?




So what was the debt after he left office, and link me to your posts criticizing it?

National debt during the Obama years
http://www.businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-added-under-president-barack-obama-2017-1

excerpt:
"Based on quarterly data released by the US Treasury, the debt at the end of 2008 — just before Obama took office — stood at roughly $10,699,805,000,000.

As of the third quarter of 2016, the most recent data available, the debt as Obama is set to leave office stood at $19,573,445,000,000" (that's roughly double even by 'new math')

You were all over that weren't 'ya Coop?