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op2

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There are so many guns in this country I don't know if more gun laws will have any effect. That said, with all the PR coming out of these events it wouldn't surprise me if some laws do get passed.

I think these shootings involve two issues that aren't being addressed enough. One is mental health. We have moved to the point where we can at least say mental health is an issue that should be addressed but not much is done to actually address it. And the other issue is young males and how to socialize them into men, which we're not really allowed to talk about because males in general are supposed to have it so good they don't problems.

Life happens regardless though. As the late great Richard Feynmann (whose 100th birthday was a couple weeks ago) said, nature cannot be fooled. Ignoring things doesn't mean they go away.
 
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roadtrasheer

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mneilmont said:
Reported use of .38 revolver and shotgun. How in hell is a shotgun taken into a school. No one saw or no one squealed? Both responses are stupid. The kids realize the atmosphere they exist in, and still turn their heads on someone with a shotgun? In most of Texas kids are gun savvy. Did enough time not elapse to report the weapon? I never ratted on a fellow student nor teacher, but no students were shot during school time in the era.
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The kid wore a trench coat everyday easy to hide one ....according to her kids he was a friendly & nice kid ..
 
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bamaEER said:
Understood, but violent video games have been around 20 years. This uptick in school shootings is very recent.
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Violent video games have dramatically changed in the past 20 years. 20 years ago games like Unreal Tournament and Quake were just coming into existence and were mainly played by kids in their late teens and early 20's. Today the FPS game are way more prevalent and played by kids as young as 5/6.

There is zero doubt in my mind that culture has a significant impact on why this is occurring in this country, and to ignore all aspect of culture is to ignore the root causes of violence.

The uptick in school shootings also coincides with the passage of the "Safe Schools" law, which created the "Gun Free Zones". Do we blame that law for the uptick?

MountaineerWV said:
Gee whiz......blaming video games? Come on........absolutely STUPID.......
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Right.... makes WAY more sense to blame the tool. o_O

To think that certain games and media can't have an impact on the mind ignores the science. Here's an article and a couple studies. Instead of just brushing off the possibility, open up your "mind" to what could be occurring.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mental-wealth/201609/is-your-childs-brain-video-games
https://www.geneseo.edu/~kirsh/vita/avb.pdf
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.136.4974&rep=rep1&type=pdf
 
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Airport

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moe said:
Seems?? I say prove it to both of you since you both make the same claim.
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moe said:
Seems?? I say prove it to both of you since you both make the same claim.
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Slightly? Here's a slice of historical truth. According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund (NLEOMF), 64 law enforcement officers were fatally ambushed in the eight years of President George W. Bush's administration. As of July 17, 94 officers have been fatally ambushed under President Obama's ongoing eight years of office.


Delving further into the NLEOMF statistics, we learn that seven officers were fatally ambushed by what is described as "pre-meditated entrapment," aka "assassination," from 2006 to 2010. From 2011 to July 17, 38 officers were killed by pre-meditated entrapment. The statistics make fatally clear that assassination attacks against law enforcement officers are on the rise under the Obama administration.

Undeterred by statistical evidence, the White House released another email on August 16 which stated, in part, "Since 2009, President Obama has made it a priority to provide local law enforcement with the tools necessary to protect the public while ensuring their own safety and wellness." Does the White House define "tools" as implicit bias training and naloxone?

So far 94 officers have been fatally ambushed during his administration, and the best Obama can do is direct officers to look at themselves in the mirror and assess their propensity for implicit bias.

While the White House peddles a puzzling proclamation that officers are safer under President Obama, I wonder if they think the same is true for those living in low-income areas in his hometown of Chicago. According to statistics released by the Chicago Police Department that compare crime data from 2015 to 2016, homicides are up 43%, shootings are up 48%, and sexual assaults are up 20%. On a broader scale, crime data shows that shootings and homicides are on the rise in several major cities. This doesn't strike me as a boasting point for the White House. Who exactly is safer under the Obama administration?

This is from Sept 1, 2016
 
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MountaineerWV said:
That burns your a$$......and I love it........a black man in the White House........
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A black anti American marxist is what it really is. There are plenty of black pro American that would have been much better in the white house.
 
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MountaineerWV

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Airport said:
Slightly? Here's a slice of historical truth. According to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund (NLEOMF), 64 law enforcement officers were fatally ambushed in the eight years of President George W. Bush's administration. As of July 17, 94 officers have been fatally ambushed under President Obama's ongoing eight years of office.


Delving further into the NLEOMF statistics, we learn that seven officers were fatally ambushed by what is described as "pre-meditated entrapment," aka "assassination," from 2006 to 2010. From 2011 to July 17, 38 officers were killed by pre-meditated entrapment. The statistics make fatally clear that assassination attacks against law enforcement officers are on the rise under the Obama administration.

Undeterred by statistical evidence, the White House released another email on August 16 which stated, in part, "Since 2009, President Obama has made it a priority to provide local law enforcement with the tools necessary to protect the public while ensuring their own safety and wellness." Does the White House define "tools" as implicit bias training and naloxone?

So far 94 officers have been fatally ambushed during his administration, and the best Obama can do is direct officers to look at themselves in the mirror and assess their propensity for implicit bias.

While the White House peddles a puzzling proclamation that officers are safer under President Obama, I wonder if they think the same is true for those living in low-income areas in his hometown of Chicago. According to statistics released by the Chicago Police Department that compare crime data from 2015 to 2016, homicides are up 43%, shootings are up 48%, and sexual assaults are up 20%. On a broader scale, crime data shows that shootings and homicides are on the rise in several major cities. This doesn't strike me as a boasting point for the White House. Who exactly is safer under the Obama administration?

This is from Sept 1, 2016
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So, using your same "logic", the increase in school shootings is a DIRECT RESULT of having Trump as president.........so, get rid of Trump, reduce school shootings........:popcorn:
 
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moe

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Airport said:
A black anti American marxist is what it really is. There are plenty of black pro American that would have been much better in the white house.
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Your anti American president is in the WH now. Only an anti American so called President would try to tear down and inspire mistrust in institutions like law enforcement and intelligence agencies just to save his own hide. If he has done nothing wrong then just keep his yap shut and do his job but he can't do that because he has too much to hide.
 
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Op2 said:
There are so many guns in this country I don't know if more gun laws will have any effect. That said, with all the PR coming out of these events it wouldn't surprise me if some laws do get passed.

I think these shootings involve two issues that aren't being addressed enough. One is mental health. We have moved to the point where we can at least say mental health is an issue that should be addressed but not much is done to actually address it. And the other issue is young males and how to socialize them into men, which we're not really allowed to talk about because males in general are supposed to have it so good they don't problems.

Life happens regardless though. As the late great Richard Feynmann (whose 100th birthday was a couple weeks ago) said, nature cannot be fooled. Ignoring things doesn't mean they go away.
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Very spot on comments. More guns laws will probably get passed in the future......but.....they will have zero effect of these shootings. The gun debate is nothing more than politics.....that's why I encourage Republicans to support more gun laws.......In the end...it would show the pure folly of more gun laws.
 
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The little dick big gun crowd, their immediate fear is always, oh my, we can't mention anything about guns, maybe there are too many doors? These *** hats are gonna screw the pooch for us sensible gun owners I swear. The gop would rather legislate wombs than they would weapons, let em run on that and continue to serve the NRA over the American people, all they wanna do is offer up their pussies for Donnie to grab and tell them they aren't becoming a minority, lol.
 
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mneilmont

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moe said:
Your anti American president is in the WH now. Only an anti American so called President would try to tear down and inspire mistrust in institutions like law enforcement and intelligence agencies just to save his own hide. If he has done nothing wrong then just keep his yap shut and do his job but he can't do that because he has too much to hide.
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Part of his job is to administer to the agencies that fall under the Administrative Branch. Those that work under AG needs some oversight. The AG should be directed to clean up the bad actors in FBI and DoJ. Files should be filed against those that will be charged with malfeasance in Office. Politics must not be allowed to influence their independence.
moe said:
lol telling you to prove your made up claims is "off the wall", got it.
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Still cannot come up with an answer ? Nothing changes with Moe.
 
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Keyser76 said:
The little dick big gun crowd, their immediate fear is always, oh my, we can't mention anything about guns, maybe there are too many doors? These *** hats are gonna screw the pooch for us sensible gun owners I swear. The gop would rather legislate wombs than they would weapons, let em run on that and continue to serve the NRA over the American people, all they wanna do is offer up their pussies for Donnie to grab and tell them they aren't becoming a minority, lol.
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You don't think the NRA is made up of "sensible" gun owners? Unless I'm mistaken...I don't think any of the mass shooting nuts were NRA members. It will be fun to watch when you folks regain control of the WH and Congress and the carnage continues.......just like it did when you had control. Well....I guess you can just wash your hands of all of it.
 
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moe

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mneilmont said:
Part of his job is to administer to the agencies that fall under the Administrative Branch. Those that work under AG needs some oversight. The AG should be directed to clean up the bad actors in FBI and DoJ. Files should be filed against those that will be charged with malfeasance in Office. Politics must not be allowed to influence their independence.

Still cannot come up with an answer ? Nothing changes with Moe.
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You asked me to elaborate on "Fake News". In this instance "Fake news" meant that I was challenging the poster to back up his claim and he tried to but you didn't. He presented some numbers wrapped in an anti BO editorial, none of which could imply causality. Hope that helps smh.
 
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Airport

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moe said:
Your anti American president is in the WH now. Only an anti American so called President would try to tear down and inspire mistrust in institutions like law enforcement and intelligence agencies just to save his own hide. If he has done nothing wrong then just keep his yap shut and do his job but he can't do that because he has too much to hide.
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Only that f**king Marxist in chief would have used the DOJ and FBI against the opposing party. There is no collusion, the only collusion was in your liberal party's communist leader, Obama and Hilliary.
 
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Airport

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moe said:
You asked me to elaborate on "Fake News". In this instance "Fake news" meant that I was challenging the poster to back up his claim and he tried to but you didn't. He presented some numbers wrapped in an anti BO editorial, none of which could imply causality. Hope that helps smh.
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Fake argument that says it isn't true. facts are a terrible thing.
 
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Airport

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moe said:
Airhead is a racist who hates black people, I'm more about job performance (or lack thereof in Trump's case).
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You are the true racist. Nobody can be responsible for themselves.
 
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