Inside the White House Bible Study group

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Capitol Ministries believes it is the first Cabinet-level bible study for "at least 100 years". There was a group during George W Bush's presidency, but it was for lower-ranking staff members.

President Trump is not a member of Drollinger's group - but he is a Christian, and does get Drollinger's eight-page print-outs most weeks.

"He writes me back notes on my bible studies," says Drollinger.

"He's got this leaky Sharpie felt-tip pen that he writes all capital letters with. 'Way to go Ralph, really like this study, keep it up.' Stuff like that."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43534724
 

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Capitol Ministries believes it is the first Cabinet-level bible study for "at least 100 years". There was a group during George W Bush's presidency, but it was for lower-ranking staff members.

President Trump is not a member of Drollinger's group - but he is a Christian, and does get Drollinger's eight-page print-outs most weeks.

"He writes me back notes on my bible studies," says Drollinger.

"He's got this leaky Sharpie felt-tip pen that he writes all capital letters with. 'Way to go Ralph, really like this study, keep it up.' Stuff like that."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43534724

I believe he is right smack dab in the middle of a fierce Spiritual battle ...probably bigger than even he realizes. This Spiritual Warfare is not isolated to him however, we're all in it and have positions to hold unless we're prepared to surrender to darkness and the forces behind it. Be prepared to fight or die!
 

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I believe he is right smack dab in the middle of a fierce Spiritual battle ...probably bigger than even he realizes. This Spiritual Warfare is not isolated to him however, we're all in it and have positions to hold unless we're prepared to surrender to darkness and the forces behind it. Be prepared to fight or die!
Chalk a victory up for the Catholics then, The priest that Ryan fired is back! lmfao, I'm sure you imagine you are on the "right" side of the spiritual battle!
 

atlkvb

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Chalk a victory up for the Catholics then, The priest that Ryan fired is back! lmfao, I'm sure you imagine you are on the "right" side of the spiritual battle!

I know what I'm fighting against 76 do you?
 

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Can we expect a Jesus Force in addition to the Space Force? So great to finally have such a morally upstanding President.
 

atlkvb

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Can we expect a Jesus Force in addition to the Space Force? So great to finally have such a morally upstanding President.

If you followed our President praying the other day during the National Day of Prayer he clearly knows what side of this battle he is on.
 

atlkvb

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The side with the porn stars?

Naked people having sex with each other can be either exhibitionist or private depending on how kinky the participants want to be. So that means it can be either pornographic or the most precious private intimacy two people can have.

For the record most people prefer their sex in private.
 

atlkvb

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The side with the porn stars?

It might surprise you to learn that all people who read the Bible and Pray once were Sinners. Pretty safe bet though that if you have decided to read the Bible and Pray you've decided to turn your back on Sin.
 

atlkvb

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Or maybe he's on the side that promotes child sex predators for government office?

Being on the side against any sexual perversions is being on the right side.

It appears the Left now at least agrees with that!
 
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Chalk a victory up for the Catholics then, The priest that Ryan fired is back! lmfao, I'm sure you imagine you are on the "right" side of the spiritual battle!
I have to agreey with Atlkvb, reading his posts on this board I believe he is on the right side...And as in past times, Satan is doing his damnedest to silence all Christians around the world,,,,,In God I trust...We, not so much it seems...
 

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Capitol Ministries believes it is the first Cabinet-level bible study for "at least 100 years". There was a group during George W Bush's presidency, but it was for lower-ranking staff members.

President Trump is not a member of Drollinger's group - but he is a Christian, and does get Drollinger's eight-page print-outs most weeks.

"He writes me back notes on my bible studies," says Drollinger.

"He's got this leaky Sharpie felt-tip pen that he writes all capital letters with. 'Way to go Ralph, really like this study, keep it up.' Stuff like that."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43534724
I forsee more lawsuits coming and I'm not much of a Seer...
 

atlkvb

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Lol, they can kiss that "moral" majority BS to the curb for all time now.

Well wait a minute I thought we were insisting on sexual Purity now amongst our public officials??? Should we put Judge Moore in office now?

So now we're back to anything goes when it comes to sex? Which morality are we following now? The one the Left wants just for Trump, or the one that Left wants absent for everyone else?
 
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Naked people having sex with each other can be either exhibitionist or private depending on how kinky the participants want to be. So that means it can be either pornographic or the most precious private intimacy two people can have.

For the record most people prefer their sex in private.
I prefer mine without boundaries. If you wanna watch, I can put on a show.
 

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Good. Pedophiles, whoredogs, and all sexual predators welcome to apply. Sexual morality not required.


It would appear that many have applied and have served or are still serving. Does praying for forgiveness clear the sheet and allow them to do it again -- do it again andthen pray for forgiveness ad infiniteum?
 

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It would appear that many have applied and have served or are still serving. Does praying for forgiveness clear the sheet and allow them to do it again -- do it again andthen pray for forgiveness ad infiniteum?

It works like this. You recognize your Sin. Ask for forgiveness. Pray for strength through Christ who forgives you to turn away from it and resist it. You can't always not Sin, but if you Love him and accept his power over Sin, you prefer to please him instead of yourself. Pleasing him keeps you from the Sin.

Try it.
 

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It works like this. You recognize your Sin. Ask for forgiveness. Pray for strength through Christ who forgives you to turn away from it and resist it. You can't always not Sin, but if you Love him and accept his power over Sin, you prefer to please him instead of yourself. Pleasing him keeps you from the Sin.

Try it.
So if Biff thinks he is god, does he simply forgive himself?
 

atlkvb

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So if Biff thinks he is god, does he simply forgive himself?

No one who humbles himself and comes to Christ asking for forgiveness places himself above Christ. If Trump has can you link me?
 

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When they get the part about the Ten Commandments, Donald may want to go over that one about not committing adultery a few times, I don't think that one has sunk in on him yet.
 

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So if Biff thinks he is god, does he simply forgive himself?

You know ironically the people who place themselves above God are those who believe he either doesn't exist or they don't need him. They reject his free offer of Salvation and decide for themselves what is right and wrong. Placing themselves above God.
 

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You know ironically the people who place themselves above God are those who believe he either doesn't exist or they don't need him. They reject his free offer of Salvation and decide for themselves what is right and wrong. Placing themselves above God.

Please explain to me how someone that doesn't believe God exists can place themselves above God (an entity that they don't believe eixsts). How can you place yourself above (or below or alongside of) something that you don't believe exists?
 

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I honestly can’t tell if the OP pulled that excerpt from the article to be a sarcastic ******* or not.

Source for my confusion: I’m a sarcastic ******* and I would have pulled the same quote.
 

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Please explain to me how someone that doesn't believe God exists can place themselves above God (an entity that they don't believe eixsts). How can you place yourself above (or below or alongside of) something that you don't believe exists?

I hope you have the next 2.5 days clear on your schedule. Good luck.
 

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Please explain to me how someone that doesn't believe God exists can place themselves above God (an entity that they don't believe eixsts). How can you place yourself above (or below or alongside of) something that you don't believe exists?

Sin by definition is willfull disobedience of God's order. When you choose Sin over God's order, you are saying you not only reject his order, but place your will and desires above his. Since by nature you (and me) are Sinners, we place our Sinful desires above God's supreme Law by rejecting him or his free offer of Salvation from Sin.

The wages of Sin is death, rejecting Almighty God's offer of eternal life from the wages of Sin places yourself above his power to not only forgive you but to save you from yourself.
 

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Please explain to me how someone that doesn't believe God exists can place themselves above God (an entity that they don't believe eixsts). How can you place yourself above (or below or alongside of) something that you don't believe exists?
Logically, I don’t think it’s possible in your context of disbelief. In his context of belief, it’s possible.

I don’t believe in a Christian god and I place my free will above all other beings, human and deity.
 

atlkvb

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When he walks into a church, the walls begin to crack. Totally fake faith for votes, nothing more.

If you think it's fake then why mock him? If you don't believe it just let him be.
 

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Sin by definition is willfull disobedience of God's order. When you choose Sin over God's order, you are saying you not only reject his order, but place your will and desires above his. Since by nature you (and me) are Sinners, we place our Sinful desires above God's supreme Law by rejecting him or his free offer of Salvation from Sin.

The wages of Sin is death, rejecting Almighty God's offer of eternal life from the wages of Sin places yourself above his power to not only forgive you but to save you from yourself.

How can I choose Sin over God's Order when I don't believe that God (or His Order) exists?

How can I reject Almighty God's offer of eternal life if I don't think it exists? For that matter, if I DID think and offer of eternal life existed why would I reject it?
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Sin by definition is willfull disobedience of God's order. When you choose Sin over God's order, you are saying you not only reject his order, but place your will and desires above his. Since by nature you (and me) are Sinners, we place our Sinful desires above God's supreme Law by rejecting him or his free offer of Salvation from Sin.

The wages of Sin is death, rejecting Almighty God's offer of eternal life from the wages of Sin places yourself above his power to not only forgive you but to save you from yourself.
That only applies if you choose to accept your truth. In the context of your belief, you’re correct. In the context of my belief, you’re incorrect as there is no spoon.