Trump should really just

WVPATX

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**** can every WH staffer he comes across and start over again.

The Russian leak likely came from the intel community. McMaster gave NSA a heads up on the meeting. Someone at NSA was the likely leaker.

As for the Comey memo, that was leaked by the FBI.

I would have every intel agency conduct lie detectors for anyone coming into contact with this kind of information. If they are discovered to be the leakers, I would prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
 

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Because you know, protecting the President from those that would leak he is an incompetent traitor is paramount to anyone putting country before party, lol. Does Donnie get any blame in this? Think you guys could do better when he sends people out with talking points then undercuts those same points with his tweets? he might have a hard time finding anyone willing fill those "Trump is never wrong " slots, you two probably make the cut.
 

WVPATX

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Because you know, protecting the President from those that would leak he is an incompetent traitor is paramount to anyone putting country before party, lol. Does Donnie get any blame in this? Think you guys could do better when he sends people out with talking points then undercuts those same points with his tweets? he might have a hard time finding anyone willing fill those "Trump is never wrong " slots, you two probably make the cut.

Obama far more of a "traitor" than Trump.
 

mneilmont

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See you are having trouble with posting too. Didn't think I was the only one having trouble with Rivals.
 

moe

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The Russian leak likely came from the intel community. McMaster gave NSA a heads up on the meeting. Someone at NSA was the likely leaker.

As for the Comey memo, that was leaked by the FBI.

I would have every intel agency conduct lie detectors for anyone coming into contact with this kind of information. If they are discovered to be the leakers, I would prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law.
Who ever leaked the Comey memo should get a medal.
 

WVPATX

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Trump's the only one that's going to need a jail cell.

What crime did he commit? Collusion with the Russians? Even Dems like Clapper and Morrell said there is zero evidence. Obstruction of justice, read the article written by Constitutional Scholar Jonathan Turley. If that memo is it, there was no obstruction.

Nice try. Maybe you can hope for Trump's death instead?

You call this obstruction:

Moreover, the Times seems to oversell the story, interpreting the word “hope” as a request. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Comey memo is accurate, what Trump says — “I hope you can let this go … I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go … He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” — is never actually framed as a request at all. Yet the Times calls it a “request” and an effort to interfere in the investigation.

Not even close.
 

moe

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What crime did he commit? Collusion with the Russians? Even Dems like Clapper and Morrell said there is zero evidence. Obstruction of justice, read the article written by Constitutional Scholar Jonathan Turley. If that memo is it, there was no obstruction.

Nice try. Maybe you can hope for Trump's death instead?

You call this obstruction:

Moreover, the Times seems to oversell the story, interpreting the word “hope” as a request. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Comey memo is accurate, what Trump says — “I hope you can let this go … I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go … He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” — is never actually framed as a request at all. Yet the Times calls it a “request” and an effort to interfere in the investigation.

Not even close.
Do you not watch the news? Clapper has backed off any earlier claims and says he doesn't know. The prez asked for Comey's loyalty then he asked Comey to drop the investigation and then fired him when he wouldn't. Obstruction of justice, anybody can see that.
 

WVPATX

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Do you not watch the news? Clapper has backed off any earlier claims and says he doesn't know. The prez asked for Comey's loyalty then he asked Comey to drop the investigation and then fired him when he wouldn't. Obstruction of justice, anybody can see that.

I saw Clapper last week and he said the same thing. How do you know he was fired for the loyalty issue? There was nothing illegal about asking for loyalty as long as he was not asking for any laws to be broken. In fact, Comey replied that he was loyal as well as being loyal to the law.

As Turley points out, Trump did not order or ask Comey to drop the investigation. He said that he hoped Comey could let it go because Flynn is a good man. That is not a demand. That is not an order. It is nothing.

And as Andrew McCarthy points out, Obama did the same thing when he declared Hillary innocent even while the FBI was investigating. I assume Obama was "hoping" she was innocent.
 

WVPATX

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Read much? What follows is me quoting me.
then he asked Comey to drop the investigation and then fired him when he wouldn't.

No, he said, according to Comey's memo:

Moreover, the Times seems to oversell the story, interpreting the word “hope” as a request. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Comey memo is accurate, what Trump says — “I hope you can let this go … I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go … He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” — is never actually framed as a request at all. Yet the Times calls it a “request” and an effort to interfere in the investigation.

Hope is not a request. Everyone knows that. Obama claimed Hillary was innocent even while the FBI investigated. I assume he hoped she was innocent.

Comey was fired for many reasons. There is ZERO proof he was fired because of this.
 

moe

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No, he said, according to Comey's memo:

Moreover, the Times seems to oversell the story, interpreting the word “hope” as a request. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that the Comey memo is accurate, what Trump says — “I hope you can let this go … I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go … He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.” — is never actually framed as a request at all. Yet the Times calls it a “request” and an effort to interfere in the investigation.

Hope is not a request. Everyone knows that. Obama claimed Hillary was innocent even while the FBI investigated. I assume he hoped she was innocent.

Comey was fired for many reasons. There is ZERO proof he was fired because of this.
You struggle to follow the thread smh but Trump admitted that he the "Russia thing" was on his mind when he fired Comey so he's already admitted to that. That alone should be considered obstruction of justice when you fire the prosecutor that's investigating you. Pence is already thinking about what color drapes he'd like in the oval office.
 

moe

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Do you think that comey has memos on meeting with Obama or other people? If so, should congress look at those too?
Reportedly Comey made memos like that when something made him feel uneasy therefore he apparently has several Trump memos. Dealing with BO was like dealing with a sane person so it's unlikely that he has BO memos but who knows...
 

Airport

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Reportedly Comey made memos like that when something made him feel uneasy therefore he apparently has several Trump memos. Dealing with BO was like dealing with a sane person so it's unlikely that he has BO memos but who knows...
No, it is said that he made memos on everybody. I would ask for all memos that he had on BO, all of them. I would like to see all the memos from his meeting with BO on HRC.
 

WVPATX

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You struggle to follow the thread smh but Trump admitted that he the "Russia thing" was on his mind when he fired Comey so he's already admitted to that. That alone should be considered obstruction of justice when you fire the prosecutor that's investigating you. Pence is already thinking about what color drapes he'd like in the oval office.

Nice try. Trump, as Comey stated, was not the subject of the Russia investigation. Comey would not admit to investigating the leaks of classified information. Big mistake.

President Trump on Tuesday fired FBI Director James Comey, abruptly ending a rocky year-long stretch for the top law enforcement officer who came under fire for his handling of the Clinton email probe -- and whose agency has been investigating whether Trump's campaign had ties to Russia.

“The FBI is one of our nation’s most cherished and respected institutions, and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement,” Trump said.

The president told Comey in a brief letter that he could not “effectively lead” the bureau and called for “new leadership that restores public trust and confidence” in law enforcement.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said the president’s decision was based on “the clear recommendations” of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

A search for a new permanent FBI director will begin immediately. In a message to FBI employees, Sessions said Andrew McCabe, the bureau's deputy director, had assumed the position of acting director.

The White House made the stunning announcement shortly after the FBI corrected a sentence in Comey's sworn testimony on Capitol Hill last week. The director had told congressional lawmakers that Huma Abedin, as a top aide to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, had sent "hundreds and thousands" of emails to her husband's laptop, including some with classified information.

On Tuesday, the FBI said in a two-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee that only "a small number" of the thousands of emails found on the laptop had been forwarded there while most had simply been backed up from electronic devices.

But that error was apparently unrelated to the Comey firing. DOJ officials instead cited his handling of the Clinton probe.

Comey first ran into problems during the 2016 presidential race when he tried to conclude his investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server system for emails while at the State Department.

He concluded that Clinton, then the Democratic presidential nominee, had not acted criminally with classified emails but said she had been “extremely careless.”

He then announced a revived probe regarding the emails and Abedin’s handling of them in the closing days of the race.

Clinton has said that largely contributed to her loss to Trump, while Comey has defended his actions.

The FBI and other members of the U.S. intelligence community, as well as Congress, are now investigating the extent to which Russia was involved in stealing and making public emails from Clinton’s presidential campaign.

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgement of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Trump said in a letter to Comey, obtained by Fox News.

Comey, 56, was nominated by President Barack Obama for the FBI post in 2013 to a 10-year term. Praised for his independence and integrity, Comey has spent three decades in law enforcement and has been no stranger to controversy.

Sessions said Comey was fired because the FBI needs a "fresh start."

In his letter to Trump, Sessions said the next FBI director must be someone who follows "faithfully the rules and principles" of the Justice Department.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said Comey had lost the "public trust and confidence."

He also said Comey's decisions on controversial matters, including the Clinton email matter, "have prompted concern from across the political spectrum" and from career law enforcement experts."

Democrats are further insisting on an independent prosecutor to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia, following the firing.

"The only way the American people can have faith in this investigation is for it to be led by a fearless special prosecutor," said Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, N.Y.

Fox News’ Joseph Weber, Serafin Gomez, Lesa Jansen and John Roberts and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

moe

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No, it is said that he made memos on everybody. I would ask for all memos that he had on BO, all of them. I would like to see all the memos from his meeting with BO on HRC.
You heard what you heard and I heard differently. My version comes from tv.
 

moe

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Nice try. Trump, as Comey stated, was not the subject of the Russia investigation. Comey would not admit to investigating the leaks of classified information. Big mistake.

President Trump on Tuesday fired FBI Director James Comey, abruptly ending a rocky year-long stretch for the top law enforcement officer who came under fire for his handling of the Clinton email probe -- and whose agency has been investigating whether Trump's campaign had ties to Russia.

“The FBI is one of our nation’s most cherished and respected institutions, and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement,” Trump said.

The president told Comey in a brief letter that he could not “effectively lead” the bureau and called for “new leadership that restores public trust and confidence” in law enforcement.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said the president’s decision was based on “the clear recommendations” of Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

A search for a new permanent FBI director will begin immediately. In a message to FBI employees, Sessions said Andrew McCabe, the bureau's deputy director, had assumed the position of acting director.

The White House made the stunning announcement shortly after the FBI corrected a sentence in Comey's sworn testimony on Capitol Hill last week. The director had told congressional lawmakers that Huma Abedin, as a top aide to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, had sent "hundreds and thousands" of emails to her husband's laptop, including some with classified information.

On Tuesday, the FBI said in a two-page letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee that only "a small number" of the thousands of emails found on the laptop had been forwarded there while most had simply been backed up from electronic devices.

But that error was apparently unrelated to the Comey firing. DOJ officials instead cited his handling of the Clinton probe.

Comey first ran into problems during the 2016 presidential race when he tried to conclude his investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server system for emails while at the State Department.

He concluded that Clinton, then the Democratic presidential nominee, had not acted criminally with classified emails but said she had been “extremely careless.”

He then announced a revived probe regarding the emails and Abedin’s handling of them in the closing days of the race.

Clinton has said that largely contributed to her loss to Trump, while Comey has defended his actions.

The FBI and other members of the U.S. intelligence community, as well as Congress, are now investigating the extent to which Russia was involved in stealing and making public emails from Clinton’s presidential campaign.

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgement of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau,” Trump said in a letter to Comey, obtained by Fox News.

Comey, 56, was nominated by President Barack Obama for the FBI post in 2013 to a 10-year term. Praised for his independence and integrity, Comey has spent three decades in law enforcement and has been no stranger to controversy.

Sessions said Comey was fired because the FBI needs a "fresh start."

In his letter to Trump, Sessions said the next FBI director must be someone who follows "faithfully the rules and principles" of the Justice Department.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said Comey had lost the "public trust and confidence."

He also said Comey's decisions on controversial matters, including the Clinton email matter, "have prompted concern from across the political spectrum" and from career law enforcement experts."

Democrats are further insisting on an independent prosecutor to investigate possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia, following the firing.

"The only way the American people can have faith in this investigation is for it to be led by a fearless special prosecutor," said Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, N.Y.

Fox News’ Joseph Weber, Serafin Gomez, Lesa Jansen and John Roberts and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
Okey dokey. They're investigating the Trump campaign but Trump is not part of the Trump campaign, got it.
 

Airport

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You heard what you heard and I heard differently. My version comes from tv.

What I heard was Comey is meticulous and that he took notes on everybody he met with. He will have a tight rope to walk if he took notes and he didn't feel the need to go to justice to file a notice. You can't have it both ways and he's a lawyer so he knows these things.
 

wvu2007

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Do you not watch the news? Clapper has backed off any earlier claims and says he doesn't know. The prez asked for Comey's loyalty then he asked Comey to drop the investigation and then fired him when he wouldn't. Obstruction of justice, anybody can see that.

LOL
 

moe

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At least you have a sense of humor about it
Unfortunately the worst that would happen to small hands is to go back to the private sector. As for those that who worked for him who ran afoul of the law....go to prison, make a new friend...