I’d love to see Congress take the Gun Ban bill to the floor for a vote

rog1187

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Admittedly I don't know anything about the 308 round. I have seen a 9mm version. Seems the 9 would start getting a tad heavy (??) when loaded and pretty ineffective due to the round. I actually have considered buying the S&W M&P 15 for about a year now. Really cheap at gun shows. The 22LR version is REALLY cheap. I would buy the 223 version though simply because I would only use the gun to defend my home if it ever came to that and that is an effective round for that purpose.

Hey I grew up in WV where it seemed every little kid in my town had a 410 shotgun and a 22 rifle for hunting. Just like everywhere else, these same kids brought their bigger hunting guns to school in the back of their trucks. Nobody shot up the schools. I completely understand that. This is my opinion; the AR style guns with the 223 round is a weapon used to terrorize by idiots wanting to terrorize. The platform is scary and therefore adds to the terror. The round is more lethal than your 9mm or maybe even a 40. Let's not forget the VT killed 31 with a 9mm and a 22 semi-automatic pistol. Those two worked well.

And to your point, there is no solution to the problem until we force parents to socialize their kids like puppies, quit "glorifying" the shooters, somehow be willing to trample on somebody's civil right because they might be crazy. And none of that might work anyway. Most everyone of these shooters had some sort if mental issue. However, look at the Las Vegas shooter, he likely wouldn't have been deemed incompetent by a court. Nobody expected him to kill over 50.

So yeah if raising the age to purchase to 21, imposing a realistic waiting period, and mandating background checks is a feel good measure (which I think age and waiting periods are for the most part), I still support it. We can't continue to do nothing here. Right? If I decide to buy that M&P 15 today, there is no reason in the world why I can't wait a week to pick it up. I just passed the background check. And I am well over 21 with a long history of responsible gun ownership. I don't believe that the ideas floated by Trump last week trampled on anyone's ownership rights. They would only serve as a potential impediment to that loony-tune going off on the public.
A waiting period to purchase an AR is fvcking stupid. None of the shooters went on a rampage immediately after purchasing their gun. They have it for a good time and practice and plan.
 

Mntneer

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A waiting period to purchase an AR is fvcking stupid. None of the shooters went on a rampage immediately after purchasing their gun. They have it for a good time and practice and plan.

It's not about logic, it's about feelings.
 
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A waiting period to purchase an AR is fvcking stupid. None of the shooters went on a rampage immediately after purchasing their gun. They have it for a good time and practice and plan.

The point is to make it more difficult to obtain the weapon. Like I said, we have to try something if not a lot of things to address this issue. Since you didn't like my idea, share some of your own without using the NRA talking points as your platform or a crutch.
 

Mntneer

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Has nothin to do with feelings **** gobbler.

Why the hostility? Have I publicly attacked you like that?

It most certainly is about feelings. It's a "feeling" that banning a certain type of gun will prevent school shootings, as there's no data or sound logic to support it.

But be a dick to me all you want, it's not going to change my stance.
 

Mntneer

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The point is to make it more difficult to obtain the weapon. Like I said, we have to try something if not a lot of things to address this issue. Since you didn't like my idea, share some of your own without using the NRA talking points as your platform or a crutch.

Trying something... without thinking about the consequences.... gets this country in trouble time and time again. How about we calmly think about real solutions that can have a real impact immediately and won't require a constitutional fight.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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The point is to make it more difficult to obtain the weapon. Like I said, we have to try something if not a lot of things to address this issue. Since you didn't like my idea, share some of your own without using the NRA talking points as your platform or a crutch.
Why do we have to try “something”?

We have 40-50 mass shootings a year? Of those really only 1-2 are senseless assassinations like the schools, the rest are murder/suicides and crime related to gang activity.

In a population of 300+ million, we don’t have a problem that needs a gun ban related solution. You keep harping on NRA talking points yet I’m not in the NRA. YOU keep parroting Gun Control talking points and don’t address any date that counters your argument.
 
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Why do we have to try “something”?

We have 40-50 mass shootings a year? Of those really only 1-2 are senseless assassinations like the schools, the rest are murder/suicides and crime related to gang activity.

In a population of 300+ million, we don’t have a problem that needs a gun ban related solution. You keep harping on NRA talking points yet I’m not in the NRA. YOU keep parroting Gun Control talking points and don’t address any date that counters your argument.

Parroting gun control points???....nice try junior. I have no interest in gun "control." There is a difference between common sense restrictions and control. You just lack the ability to understand that difference.
 
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Trying something... without thinking about the consequences.... gets this country in trouble time and time again. How about we calmly think about real solutions that can have a real impact immediately and won't require a constitutional fight.

yeah raising the drinking age to 21 sure got this country into trouble.......great call.
 

rog1187

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The point is to make it more difficult to obtain the weapon. Like I said, we have to try something if not a lot of things to address this issue. Since you didn't like my idea, share some of your own without using the NRA talking points as your platform or a crutch.
A waiting period doesn't make it harder to obtain the weapon. I'd like to know how many people have purchased a weapon that doesn't require a waiting period and then immediately used it to shoot someone?

Add mental health to the background check
Add some sort of red flag process with due process
Look into the connection of violent behavior and violent media - movies, games, etc.
Enforce existing laws or remove them from the books
 
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Enforce existing laws or remove them from the books

I'm not picking on you, your post just reminded me of one of the things that angers me in this whole situation.

It is so f'ucking ridiculous that Congress is talking about passing a law to enforce the existing laws we already have in place. Yes, that's a **** show.
 

TarHeelEer

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Here's a commonality that noone will want to even start addressing:

 

DvlDog4WVU

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Parroting gun control points???....nice try junior. I have no interest in gun "control." There is a difference between common sense restrictions and control. You just lack the ability to understand that difference.
You haven’t proposed anything resembling common sense. Start over.
 

dave

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I'm not picking on you, your post just reminded me of one of the things that angers me in this whole situation.

It is so f'ucking ridiculous that Congress is talking about passing a law to enforce the existing laws we already have in place. Yes, that's a **** show.
Do you support sanctuary cites?
 

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If gun control was the answer to gun violence, Chicago should be a paradise.
Chicago recorded 286 shooting incidents and 78 slayings through the first two months of 2018.
 

rog1187

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Because discriminating against gay people is exactly like having a policy setting an age limit. LOL!
The age is an arbitrary determination by the seller...just like the baker arbitrarily determining he didn't want to sell to gay couples.