Currently 18 year old's can buy guns. Raise the age to at least 21. Cruz bought 7 guns legally and 3 illegally.
Raise the age to purchase guns.
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Everyone knows how strong I am on the 2nd amendment, but as much as I am strongly against the limitation of our rights, I would agree with something like that.
1. Mandatory psych evaluations (yearly or bi-yearly)
2. No more "flea market" sales
3. No more Internet sales (sorry, face-to-face transactions only)
I'm sure there are more I could put on there, but this isn't a "restrict" or "get rid of" gun solution........which some on the Right think it is........you will still be given every opportunity to keep your 2nd Amendment rights........
2. No more "flea market" sales
3. No more Internet sales (sorry, face-to-face transactions only)
I'm sure there are more I could put on there, but this isn't a "restrict" or "get rid of" gun solution........which some on the Right think it is........you will still be given every opportunity to keep your 2nd Amendment rights........
1) No. Absolutely not.
2) That already varies state to state, but I've never had an issue with requiring a NICS check on "gun show" sales.
3) Red Herring. Any internet sale, already requires an NICS background check on transfer.
Gotta keep the big guns available for the little dicks never served their country, they just wanna experience the thrill of military grade weaponry without that sacrifice for Country while they march around in the woods in case they ever have to use them against their Government, you know, when they have to fight Nancy and Chuck instead of seal team six. Amazing how the first thing the Trump crowd worries about when this **** happens is their arsenal.
Amazing how the left worries more about the weapons that aren't driving the statistics, instead of worrying about doing what needs to be done to secure our schools.
And what's "military grade weaponry"?
I just thought the idea was to make everything illegal and that would stop bad things from happening.
Nothing can stop straw man sales - in person or through the internet. You can make it illegal, but what do criminals care?
If you're required to show a photo ID in person, is it more likely to make a straw man purchase in person or over the internet?
I thought we were discussing "common sense" measures. That's the problem, every time a gun regulation discussion starts, common sense is thrown out the window. That's why I haven't really participated in these discussions the last six days.
If you purchase a gun through the internet, you still have to go to a gun store to pick it up...at least if you do it legally.
I can purchase a gun in person and then give it to someone later.
You'd be surprised how many people attempt straw purchases in person, in gun stores. I know of a shop owner that reported 3 last year, non of which were prosecuted.
What you are asking for is pretty much already on the books. You can't transfer a gun over state lines without going through an NICS background check. If you do you break the law. So what more are you asking for then?
Are you telling me people buy the gun and then turn it over to someone else right in the store? Wow that's either ballsy or stupid...or both.
The stories I've heard are essentially that. 2 people walk in, 1 picks the gun he/she likes, the other says, "I want to buy that one."
One case the purchasers were from NJ. Clear cut case of a straw purchase. Owner pressed and pressed to have charges brought, but nothing ever became of it. He said ATF agents have told him that they just don't prosecute those crimes.
1. Why the problem with that? If you are of good mental health, then you have nothing to fear. Take a look around, it's the "crazies" that are doing the mass shootings, not the sane ones.
2. No private sales of guns without a background check......no excuses.
3. The reason I say no Internet sales is the gun shop/person should SEE the buyer face to face. It's too easy to fake your identity on the Internet.
I have stated here several times that I own handguns. One revolver, a 9 MM compact, and a 380 subcompact that I carry. Likely before the year ends, I will have a full size 40 and maybe a Mossberg 20 gauge, pistol-grip shotgun for dude that feels the need to walk up my steps in the middle of the night. I have no problems for guns to be used in self-defense, hunting, or sport. I do truly have a problem with weapons I deem to be designed for offensive capabilities, like semi-automatic rifles. However, since the they are currently legal, why not an age restriction? A 7-day waiting period? Limitations on magazine size? Limitations on modifications (bump-stocks)?
Contrary to what the NRA states and wing nuts believe, the majority of Americans don't want to confiscate guns. But not to apply some sort of restrictions on these weapons is just silly to me. I grew up like many here where kids had their rifles in their trucks in high school and nobody got shot. While that was just 35 years ago, our society is different now. Kids live their childhood playing video games vs actually socializing or learning real life skills. They place less value on life. They don't understand conflict resolution. We have a problem and right now for some reason these jackasses have chosen the AR-15 type guns as their weapon of choice. So why not place realistic restrictions on sales and modifications?
There are also 5 million AR-15's.
So? What was wrong with of the suggestions I made? We got to do something THE. I'd be for banning these extremely violent video games but that has first amendment implications too.
Handguns kill more people than AR style rifles do...by a huge margin. Crap on a cracker why don't we look at this in total instead of looking at the scary guns that have been used in a very small fraction to harm people?!
1) There has got to be a method for due process, as I could easily see a biased "examiner" taking matters into their own hands when it comes to allowing someone to exercise their rights. I've got no problem barring people that have been found incompetent through legal means, but just saying, "Oh, take this mental exam and we'll let you know." Nope.
2) Again, if I sell a gun to someone over state lines they HAVE to have a background check. Laws on sales within states vary from state to state, but we can examine requiring an NICS background check on those like we do out of state sales..
3) You can't fake your identity on an internet gun sale. I've purchased a number of guns over the internet, and when you do you have to have the gun shipped to a licensed dealer who will then run the NICS background check on you. You can't fake anything without already breaking the law. So there's no new law there to pass.
SECURE THE FCUKING BUILDINGS FIRST!
While we waste time arguing over the constitutionality of what the left wants and the right doesn't, we could be taking active steps that WOULD make an impact and wouldn't require massive constitutional debates.
After 9/11 the airports changed the way they did business...why aren't schools doing more?
Take those out and I am willing to bet handguns still beat AR style shootings by a wide margin. I don't think suicides should even be in the equation other than to discuss the lack of mental health help in this country and it's consequences.
Come on....handguns can't kill 49 people at a time. See, you start off with a rational thought then go all NRA again. There is a huge difference between a 1-4 person shooting with a handgun (generally by somebody they know) than 17-49 people getting shot with a semi-automatic weapon by a stranger in a random setting.....it is called terror.
- Do not give the murderers any publicity whatsoever. No name recognition, no 15 minutes of fame, no delving into their causes... nothing.
- Carrot and stick the states into providing their conviction and mental health entries to FBI that they're supposed to. They are failing almost across the board.
- Bump stocks, magazine sizes, sure, but this isn't going to stop anything
- Something has to happen with the FBI, I don't know what it is. They've had tips about most of the mass casualty event perpetrators in recent history, but have failed to stop them.
- Need more of me, not to brag. We need more people spending more time with youth: teaching them to be leaders, and building their character and self esteem. Parents can't or won't do it nowadays in a lot of cases. Teachers are paid only to care about the exams now. Someone has to pick up the slack.
- Optional gun classes in schools - teach the youth how to properly operate and maintain a weapon, and what having a weapon means.
- Remove the gun free zones around schools. Allow CCL teachers to carry, but not promote.
Mass casualty incidents are a small percentage of even murder/gun scenarios. Suicides are the main cause of gun deaths.
How many people are killed in mass shootings with AR style rifles versus handguns? Did you know the VT shooter used a .22 and a 9mm handgun to kill 32 people?
I don't doubt that for one second. Headlines attract attention. Islamic terror attacks don't amount to many deaths, but it's still a pretty hot subject.