Because it's a giant smear campaign designed to prevent him from Governing effectively only because they're still sore he won. They couldn't beat him at the polls, so now they have been trying since they lost to delegitimize his victory.
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Because it's a giant smear campaign designed to prevent him from Governing effectively only because they're still sore he won. They couldn't beat him at the polls, so now they have been trying since they lost to delegitimize his victory.
Probably the same reason you get riled up everytime you are reminded that your vote for Hillary didn't work out.
And gaze right past the GOP members that advocated for an investigation as well?
Smear? We just indicted 13 Russians and 3 Russian organizations that were pro Trump and anti Clinton. Enforcing Russian sanctions and calling them out would go a long way in helping him govern, but his delicate widdle ego won't allow it.
Serious? Just about every Republican called for investigations in to the election. They overwhelmingly passed sanctions against Russia.
Gowdy, Blunt, Grassely, Portman, Kinzinger, Hatch, Ryan...are you being serious?
Why do you keep going back to that? Trump isn't a party issue. NeverTrumper's exist, like Coop. These are the McCain's, Kasich's, Bush's of the world. Heck, McCain even conspired with Fusion to keep him from getting elected. Trump doesn't reflect conservative values, and certainly not the neocon Never's.
Yes we did...and the indictments don't mean jack because none of them will ever be "prosecuted". They were equal opportunity offenders who got started with their deviancy to interfere with our election well before Trump even announced, and their indictment has zero to do with Trump "colluding" with them to steal the election which was the original charge on the Left after he sent Hillary back to Chappaqua.
And Paul Ryan calling for a transparent investigation, and supporting the appointment of Mueller as special council would be.....what exactly?
You guys just want to turn this into some bs political thing now, but there’s a legitimate reason for Mueller to be doing the work he’s doing right now. And I’m not even saying he will find anything.
In addition, it’s not keeping Trump from doing anything but sucking Putin’s dick. He got tax reform done, he got a budget, his numbers were already pitiful.....GOP is working with him.
So what? We shouldn’t have brought charges against them then? The man constantly rails against “leftists” wants Russians that were state agents charged with messing with our election not charged with fraud? Irony’s a trip
...A "hate filled, partisan, political rant that's total BS and makes no sense"
Good job boomer!
Hillary paid for it, laundered money through Perkins Coie to hide it from the FEC, her henchman Blumenthal helped create, and then fed it to the FBI and press. No. It's not political at all.
Hey, I’m not even saying that your conspiracy theories aren’t valid. I’m simply saying that we know Russia was active (yes, yes that might just be par for the course), and that there was strong evidence they favored Trump being elected. The DNC was hacked and emails distributed by Assange (which I guess is a patriot to you guys now?) and it had an impact, no I’m not saying it’s why Clinton lost - so don’t go there please. And that there were numerous contacts between Trump campaign members and Russian players. I think there’s a legitimate reason for a SP to be appointed to investigate, and many GOP members did as well.
The same reason I say there is a legitimate reason for the Clinton foundation to be investigated, and if Trump instructed Sessions to appoint a Democrat former FBI head appointed by a Democrat to investigate it, I’d say kudos Mr. President.
I said early on that once there was no hard evidence of Trump "colluding" with Russians to steal the election (the original charge) that you folks on the Left would not let it go (collusion)
I also said you'd try to still insist it happened, just couldn't be proven. I also said all of the the evidence would in fact point to the Democrats and Hillary who were doing all of the "colluding"...and so far I've been 100 percent correct in each of my predictions.
Just gently reminding you to be careful of that which you accuse in others. You live a 360 degree glass house boom, the stones you throw around don't travel very far without shattering your domicile.
What I just said is not conspiracy, that is all backed up by public testimony.
True. That doesn't mean Trump worked with them.
Not a hero to me. He's dangerous, but I don't think outright "Damn Ruskie!". He's an opportunist, and will take secrets anywhere he can get them from, and I don't think he cares about whom, either. I don't take our 34 flavors of intel agree that the Russians did it as gospel. They didn't even inspect the email server, but took Crowdstrike's (another Democratic source) and circumstantial evidence as gospel. When an ex Brit diplomat says an internal source leaked it, and it's not been proven false to date, well, I have my doubts.
That's fine, but it should've been limited to investigating Russian interference and Trump campaign collusion, rather than the witchhunt it is. Current law does not allow for this, and it's truly un-American, and more like the Gestapo or KGB. They've found their target, now go get me a crime.
Believe it or not. I like the fact that there are men like you that will take every indictment and the overall findings from Mueller’s investigation and probe it like.....yeah, I’m not going to go there....you know just scrutinize the hell out of it. It’s what helps our nation stay neutral. But the investigation is warranted, and let’s just see what Mueller turns up before we shout about political smokescreens. Hell, even if all this jazz JUST gives us more insight to abuses of power.....that’s a good thing isn’t it?
Because he’s not sharing his resources and knowledge? The transparency will be shown in his findings. The man can prosecute and investigate properly if he has to reveal everything he knows all the time.
I understand that sentiment, but there’s really no way to have gone about it differently, he needed some scope.
A crime is a crime. I don’t think anyone is fabricating evidence here.
Transparency is transparency and so far there is nothing transparent about it. You are suggesting that it will come later but you dont know that.
Very true. I don’t know that. I am operating on the faith that Mueller has integrity. Which many GOP members asserted when he was appointed. When the fat Newt gave his endorsement, I was happy with the pick.
I’m not certain of that fact, to be honest. And even if it was, it’s not being used as the lone source of any indictment - nor was it the sole source of FISA
"The FBI already knew about Page because of his role as a witness in the 2013 federal prosecution of an undercover Russian spy. Prosecutors alleged that the spy had tried to cultivate Page as a source. Page denies he knew he was interacting with a Russian spy.
Page was also among those who met with Russia's ambassador, Sergey Kislyak during the Republican National Convention in 2016."