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[Boomboom521]

i think the WH has already leaked through the lackey apparatus that arming teachers will be on the agenda.

I hope it’s an approach that centers around armed guards at schools, rather than arming teachers.

I’m all for gun control, but it’s clear there are just always going to be large portions of the nation against it. We need solutions that will sustain for schools.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

i think the WH has already leaked through the lackey apparatus that arming teachers will be on the agenda.

I hope it’s an approach that centers around armed guards at schools, rather than arming teachers.

I’m all for gun control, but it’s clear there are just always going to be large portions of the nation against it. We need solutions that will sustain for schools.

Yesterday's school had an armed guard. We need an all out approach. Tighter security, armed guards, armed teachers, gun laws. IMO. My guess is we'll have the same conversation in 6 months.

 

[atlkvb]

i think the WH has already leaked through the lackey apparatus that arming teachers will be on the agenda.

I hope it’s an approach that centers around armed guards at schools, rather than arming teachers.

I’m all for gun control, but it’s clear there are just always going to be large portions of the nation against it. We need solutions that will sustain for schools.

Protect the kids! Arm schools with U.S. Marshalls, on line cameras, off duty Cops, armed Teachers, armed security officers...whatever. You can't stop evil filled crazies, so protect the kids from them!!! No more "gun free" zones. Nuts walk into schools at their own risk because there WILL be someone inside who can also take them out before they kill dozens of innocent & unarmed kids!

 

[Boomboom521]

Yesterday's school had an armed guard. We need an all out approach. Tighter security, armed guards, armed teachers, gun laws. IMO. My guess is we'll have the same conversation in 6 months.

I’m a teacher, I wouldn’t want to be armed. It can effect the relationship I try to cultivate in the classroom (no brushy, not that way). There has to be a level of respect and trust in order to be the most effective as an educator.

I think security should be taken much more seriously across the nation however. The cost is the sticking point though, imo.

 

[Boomboom521]

Protect the kids! Arm schools with U.S. Marshalls, on line cameras, off duty Cops, armed Teachers, armed security officers...whatever. You can't stop evil filled crazies, so protect the kids from them!!! No more "gun free" zones. Nuts walk into schools at their own risk because there WILL be someone inside who can also take them out before they kill dozens of innocent & unarmed kids!

I’d be in favor of certain teachers being armed, maybe. I’ve always been in favor of more security. And I think school counseling should be a much more focused on aspect of our schools. From the background and pay for school counselors to the amount of time each student spends with them to the available resources that are available to school counselors to help students in emotional crisis.

 

[atlkvb]

I’d be in favor of certain teachers being armed, maybe. I’ve always been in favor of more security. And I think school counseling should be a much more focused on aspect of our schools. From the background and pay for school counselors to the amount of time each student spends with them to the available resources that are available to school counselors to help students in emotional crisis.

I'm just tired of hearing we shouldn't have these schools under armed protection. The nuts always attack there because they know no guns are allowed...that's just crazy.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Armed teachers is a horrible idea.

 

[Boomboom521]

I'm just tired of hearing we shouldn't have these schools under armed protection. The nuts always attack there because they know no guns are allowed...that's just crazy.

I think the position of armed security guard should be HEAVILY scrutinized and WELL PAID. You don’t want issues with intimidation and disrespect coming from the guards towards students either though, that can only exacerbate the problem, imo.

 

[atlkvb]

Armed teachers is a horrible idea.

Well maybe if the gun toting bad guys saw some Barney Dinosaurs in the lobby they'd turn around and just go back home without pulling their triggers on innocent kids?

 

[Boomboom521]

Armed teachers is a horrible idea.

I think it is, there are other teachers I’ve taught with that would disagree. I think it hurts the relationship between teacher and student. And I’m not sure it would deter a situation like yesterday from happening anyway.

 

[atlkvb]

I think the position of armed security guard should be HEAVILY scrutinized and WELL PAID. You don’t want issues with intimidation and disrespect coming from the guards towards students either though, that can only exacerbate the problem, imo.

I favor armed retired Military. Give 'em a tax break for volunteering to protect our schools. Saves us all money...them too! Assign a half dozen of 'em to every school, and they'd have no other responsibility other than to keep the schools safe and free from an attack of Evil crazies.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I think it is, there are other teachers I’ve taught with that would disagree. I think it hurts the relationship between teacher and student. And I’m not sure it would deter a situation like yesterday from happening anyway.

I’m just thinking of the sweet, young lady type teacher who is very passive, detests violence and wants nothing to do with guns and wouldn’t use one if her life depended on it; it wouldn’t be appropriate to require her to be armed or have a firearm in a locked desk drawer nearby.

 

[bornaneer]

I’m just thinking of the sweet, young lady type teacher who is very passive, detests violence and wants nothing to do with guns and wouldn’t use one if her life depended on it; it wouldn’t be appropriate to require her to be armed or have a firearm in a locked desk drawer nearby.

You wouldn't want this guy teaching?

 

[Boomboom521]

I favor armed retired Military. Give 'em a tax break for volunteering to protect our schools. Saves us all money...them too! Assign a half dozen of 'em to every school, and they'd have no other responsibility other than to keep the schools safe and free from an attack of Evil crazies.

Wouldn’t have a problem with that, but it would require extensive background checks

 

[MountaineerWV]

Wouldn’t have a problem with that, but it would require extensive background checks

I don't mean to sound offensive with this, but what about PTSD for returning soldiers? I say find funding at the local/state/federal level for school security or resource officers.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

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[atlkvb]

I don't mean to sound offensive with this, but what about PTSD for returning soldiers? I say find funding at the local/state/federal level for school security or resource officers.

Not all ex-military or retired soldiers are mental cases. All of them have served, and most of them know how to handle a weapon in the face of danger without fear of using it if needed. My idea was to allow them a chance to both serve again (volunteering) as well as saving us some money because we're broke!

So I say give 'em tax breaks to volunteer protecting our school kids. Yes check them out. Yes screen them. But yes also, let's use their training, discipline, and firearms expertise to keep the Evil crazies off of our kids so our Teachers can safely concentrate on their job of education.

 

[Mntneer]

I don't mean to sound offensive with this, but what about PTSD for returning soldiers? I say find funding at the local/state/federal level for school security or resource officers.

That's something that would have to be examined. As my son told me today, he wouldn't mind his science teacher being armed because he used to be in the military, but some of his other teachers he wouldn't.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

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[Boomboom521]

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never miss a chance to make it political! Disgusting. I’m sure the FBI has lots of responsibilities

 

[Mntneer]

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never miss a chance to make it political! Disgusting. I’m sure the FBI has lots of responsibilities

There does however appear to be a lack in follow up by agencies on many of these people. Maybe the FBI needs to have a dedicated unit, strictly assigned to tracking these people down and keeping a closer eye on them.

 

[Boomboom521]

There does however appear to be a lack in follow up by agencies on many of these people. Maybe the FBI needs to have a dedicated unit, strictly assigned to tracking these people down and keeping a closer eye on them.

The thing is....follow up with what exactly? An arrest? Couldn’t be put away for long making a general threat on social media, could you? And then, even if they were jailed for a short time, the person wouldn’t be in better mental shape I’d imagine upon release.

 

[atlkvb]

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never miss a chance to make it political! Disgusting. I’m sure the FBI has lots of responsibilities

I don't see it as "political" since we're paying these folks to watch out for these types of people. How do they just blow off all of the warning signs they were getting about this nut job?

 

[atlkvb]

The thing is....follow up with what exactly? An arrest? Couldn’t be put away for long making a general threat on social media, could you? And then, even if they were jailed for a short time, the person wouldn’t be in better mental shape I’d imagine upon release.

Why wasn't his application to purchase a gun "flagged" over his demented You Tube and Facebook posts? No way he should have been allowed to purchase a weapon until or unless he was checked out a little further and cleared or denied his permit to carry.

 

[Boomboom521]

I don't see it as "political" since we're paying these folks to watch out for these types of people. How do they just blow off all of the warning signs they were getting about this nut job?

We just lock people up for digital threats now? I’ve known women that lived under direct threat from men for years, and nothing could be done. Would the FBI had stalked him until something happened?

 

[Boomboom521]

Why wasn't his application to purchase a gun "flagged" over his demented You Tube and Facebook posts? No way he should have been allowed to purchase a weapon until or unless he was checked out a little further and cleared or denied his permit to carry.

Now there you have something. But is it the FBI’s job to filter gun owners now? I honestly don’t know how that gets handled, but stricter gun control??? I’m all for it.

 

[Boomboom521]

I don't see it as "political" since we're paying these folks to watch out for these types of people. How do they just blow off all of the warning signs they were getting about this nut job?

And it’s absolutely political by suggesting the FBI was too busy working on Trump to handle this tragedy. That suggestion is pathetic

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[atlkvb]

We just lock people up for digital threats now? I’ve known women that lived under direct threat from men for years, and nothing could be done. Would the FBI had stalked him until something happened?

I know it's a tough and fine line to walk...but in the case of owning firearms why do we even require "background" checks if something like this isn't easily marked and at least flagged for approval pending further investigation?

I don't want folks tracked just for saying goofy stuff (we'd have to arrest some members of the OT forum) but I sure as sh*t think someone dropped the ball HUGE over this demented Soul when he showed up with an application to purchase that weapon! Who did the background check on him and what didn't they notice?

 

[atlkvb]

And it’s absolutely political by suggesting the FBI was too busy working on Trump to handle this tragedy. That suggestion is pathetic

I agree they weren't too busy not to check this fool out closer that's absurd.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[atlkvb]

Touche

 

[The Dunedein]

from parent-teacher conferences with my kids' teachers, i can't think of even one of them who would have it in them to shoot one of these crazies. the teachers are wonderful people and care about the students, but depending upon them to pull the trigger to protect my kids does not give me the warm fuzzies.

Seems like we might be better off to put the security at the entrance to the school, like they do at airports, courts, military bases, etc. Why wait to protect until entry has already been gained? Keep them from entering in the first place. Restrict entries with metal detectors and x-ray machines for backpacks with two armed, trained security personnel at each entry point.

 

[Boomboom521]

Douche

 

[atlkvb]

All I know is if I'm home, or my Wife is here alone and someone tries to come in here without her or me answering the door and inviting them in, they're going to face bullets first and our questions later. (if they survive or don't leave)

In the case of the schools I think the suggestions to limit access to one monitored entry point armed by trained security personnel is a good place to start. I'd also keep armed guards (like ex-military) around the school grounds for periods of recess, dismissal and arrivals early in the morning.

 

[Boomboom521]

All I know is if I'm home, or my Wife is here alone and someone tries to come in here without her or me answering the door and inviting them in, they're going to face bullets first and our questions later. (if they survive or don't leave)

In the case of the schools I think the suggestions to limit access to one monitored entry point armed by trained security personnel is a good place to start.

Well aren’t you just the rootinist tootinist gun shootinist man in all Atlanta!

I like the suggestion. The cost will be more than most on your side of the divide will accept.