we were out coached and out played and did not deserve to win. We were more out coached than out played. Best coached and best team won.
not emotional but
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Nothing really fundamentally wrong with the in-game coaching. WVU lacks offensive talent when it's most needed. That goes back more to recruiting than anything else.
No Vernon.... too many times this year we come out flat in the second half and blow leads like this. It's becoming a consistent trend. There are fundamental issues that only coaching can address.
Right now we are not a Top 10 team, not really a Top 25 team, and Huggins has got to re-evaluate what's taking place at the half and figure out what's wrong.
Which guy is that? Cause people said Teddy Allen was the answer, and what's he done recently? Is it Bolden?
When was the last time WV had offensive talent recruited by Coach Huggins? The press was developed for the purposes of getting more possessions to offset the lack of offense, stated by coach himself.
I hate to say this to you all, but WVU isn't a big name recruit college. Huggins having a top team year in year out at WVU is a great feat in itself.
It's hard to coach all freshman and sophomores. Especially when you have more frosh. Recruits that grow into a system are a blessing I hope you enjoy them
You’ll have to ask Huggie why his best option -Allen- is allowed to rot on the bench. Oh wait, that’s right, whatever Huggins does is beyond reproach and we should NEVER question him.
Allen got in the game, and immediately looked OVERWHELMED. Why can't you see this? He's just not that talented when facing superior defenders. Who did he score his points against? K-State and Ok State? Yeah.........enough said.
If players can't shoot respectably by the time they get to college, it's kind of hard to "coach" them how to improve.
I agree that young Teddy Allen has not been up to par after sitting out a few games and then being re-inserted for a few minutes in the last couple of games. He seems to have lost his heart for the game. I further think that JC is a great all around player but is costing the Mountaineers at crucial points when he decides to drive the lane and then is forced to re-consider his shot and then finds it most impossible to pass to an open Mountaineer. That's just what I see. I would play Konate until he fouls out. No bench time for Super K. When Konate is on the bench the Mountaineers lose their creative genius! Bender and Routt can't get a handle on the ball for some reason and they spend a lot of time of the floor.......literally. The Mountaineers have learned how to lose. They have not learned how to win. Warez
Never ever saw an average shooter become a good/great shooter through coaching or any other means (practice). I’ve seen poor shooters approach the average level. Who was the last great CONSISTENT shooter WV put on the floor?
Which is odd that you would say that, because those are quality minutes agaist tough opponents, or is Huggins only capable of beating bottom feeders?
I wish we could attack the basket on our half court sets. It just feels like we pass it around the three point line and the rest stand around. We just seem to be standing around hoping Carter nails a 3. Gotta be better with movement without the ball.
K-State and OK State does NOT have the same caliber of players as Kentucky...........and when he got in to the TCU game, Allen looked like a JV player getting his shot swatted every time.
At least Teddy attempts to get things going under the basket. If he works on his body control those swats might turn into him going to the line. Which is something the other teams have ravaged us with in these second half meltdowns.
Players on every level improve. High school, college, and pro level. That is what coaching is for, among other things.
That's like saying a RB can't be taught to improve his reads on blocks or a receiver can't improve his "hands" in college.
So, play a player that has attitude problems and tantrums several times? You trust those players to be "team" guys?
Just a comment on his effort, I don’t want another Harris on the team. I trust Huggs can eliminate cancers on the team quite effectively. I just can’t pinpoint who is more disruptive to team chemistry at this point.
RIght, so then Huggins is only capable of beating teams with inferior talent and we should accept a certain level of recruiting at WVU...because it’s the Huggins way.
You’re all over the place. First you say we have to lower our expectations, because we don’t have the same talent level and an un-ranked UK team and now you’re saying we have the talent to beat the #2 team in the country, a struggling OK team, and a 13-8 Missouri team...... Or, is this all about showing your unquestioning loyality to Huggins and we should just take reason and logic out of the equation.
No, it's to show how ignorant you are because you are saying we only have talent to defeat inferior opponents, that we aren't very good, etc. etc. We lost......big whoop. It hurts, it stinks, it sucks.......but, it happens! Go suck on Dana a bit more......
Again, what does Dana have to do with this?
And no, the ‘we only have talent to defea inferior opponents’ is your argument not mine. Perhaps you should go back and re-read your own posts.
No, my point was that Teddy Allen can only play against inferior talent.......why don't you get Dana out of your mouth to read a bit more........
Again, what does Dana have to do with anything and why are you so fixated on him? Do you have a man crush on our football coach?
And you can’t make that statement about Allen, after all Huggins has him buried on the bench and seems intent to use an under achieving Esa in his place. If you can make sense out of this mess, then good for you, but, benching a quality player in favor of someone who is struggling....seems a bit curious.
You say that Allen is a "quality player", but you completely disregard Esa's career numbers? You are foolish........and Allen is only good against inferior opponents at this point in his career.
Again, you cannot make that statement about Allen, because he’s been logging quality minutes on the bench and not on the floor.
And what has Esa done for us lately? Is he lighting it up and logging quality minutes or is he struggling?
Ok, what has Teddy done recently? Since being back in the rotation? Yeah, nothing. Esa has statistics for a career, not just 3-4 games where he looked great in front of inferior defenders.
No we didn't just lose. We blew a 17 point lead (another double digits lead) and have done this more than once this season which is Fkn pathetic and on the coach.
So, was it "on the coach" when we built that 17 point lead or was that on the players?
Harder to coach all those 5 stars with egos than you think. Getting them to put aside their ego and play as a team is very difficult. Not many coaches can do that year after year. That is one reason Kentucky is much better at the end of the year than at the beginning. WVU seems to be much better at the beginning of the year.
You must have missed the UK game, becasue Esa did absolutely nothing...he’s struggling and his return has not been what everyone hoped for. And Allen played a few moments in the first half and then, for some reason known only to Huggins, sat the second half. I’d hardly call that being back in the rotation.