Global earnings up

[moe]

I wanted to point out something to some who want think that Trump has upgraded U.S. economic activity out of thin air. Things are going well but the U.S. economy doesn't go up in a vacuum. When the rest of the world's economies participate, it's much easier and more likely for the U.S. GDP to go up and fpr our overall economy to do better. Trump and the Repubs have two things working for them on the economy. They have sold their souls (roll back safety, environmental and consumer protection regulations) for the economy and the world's economies are finally looking up. The following table shows that world economies are finally kicking in and doing better after the Great Recession (U.S./World). World economies have not been doing real well for most of the time that the U.S. economy tried to recover under BO. I realize that the focus here is on emerging markets but still it's an indicator of economic trends outside of the U.S.

"We've seen a resurgence of global earnings in 2017 with the S&P 500, emerging markets and developed markets all positive ... [that's the first time it's happened] since 2010," he said Thursday on CNBC's "Trading Nation."


This is the most important chart for the market in the year ahead, a top technician says
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/29/tec...ost-important-chart-for-market-next-year.html

 

[dave]

I wanted to point out something to some who want think that Trump has upgraded U.S. economic activity out of thin air. Things are going well but the U.S. economy doesn't go up in a vacuum. When the rest of the world's economies participate, it's much easier and more likely for the U.S. GDP to go up and fpr our overall economy to do better. Trump and the Repubs have two things working for them on the economy. They have sold their souls (roll back safety, environmental and consumer protection regulations) for the economy and the world's economies are finally looking up. The following table shows that world economies are finally kicking in and doing better after the Great Recession (U.S./World). World economies have not been doing real well for most of the time that the U.S. economy tried to recover under BO. I realize that the focus here is on emerging markets but still it's an indicator of economic trends outside of the U.S.

"We've seen a resurgence of global earnings in 2017 with the S&P 500, emerging markets and developed markets all positive ... [that's the first time it's happened] since 2010," he said Thursday on CNBC's "Trading Nation."


This is the most important chart for the market in the year ahead, a top technician says
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/29/tec...ost-important-chart-for-market-next-year.html

I hate to break it to you bozo but the rest of the worlds economy benefits from a strong US economy. We buy most of their products.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I wanted to point out something to some who want think that Trump has upgraded U.S. economic activity out of thin air. Things are going well but the U.S. economy doesn't go up in a vacuum. When the rest of the world's economies participate, it's much easier and more likely for the U.S. GDP to go up and fpr our overall economy to do better. Trump and the Repubs have two things working for them on the economy. They have sold their souls (roll back safety, environmental and consumer protection regulations) for the economy and the world's economies are finally looking up. The following table shows that world economies are finally kicking in and doing better after the Great Recession (U.S./World). World economies have not been doing real well for most of the time that the U.S. economy tried to recover under BO. I realize that the focus here is on emerging markets but still it's an indicator of economic trends outside of the U.S.

"We've seen a resurgence of global earnings in 2017 with the S&P 500, emerging markets and developed markets all positive ... [that's the first time it's happened] since 2010," he said Thursday on CNBC's "Trading Nation."


This is the most important chart for the market in the year ahead, a top technician says
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/29/tec...ost-important-chart-for-market-next-year.html

Hahahahaha, wow!

 

[Airport]

I wanted to point out something to some who want think that Trump has upgraded U.S. economic activity out of thin air. Things are going well but the U.S. economy doesn't go up in a vacuum. When the rest of the world's economies participate, it's much easier and more likely for the U.S. GDP to go up and fpr our overall economy to do better. Trump and the Repubs have two things working for them on the economy. They have sold their souls (roll back safety, environmental and consumer protection regulations) for the economy and the world's economies are finally looking up. The following table shows that world economies are finally kicking in and doing better after the Great Recession (U.S./World). World economies have not been doing real well for most of the time that the U.S. economy tried to recover under BO. I realize that the focus here is on emerging markets but still it's an indicator of economic trends outside of the U.S.

"We've seen a resurgence of global earnings in 2017 with the S&P 500, emerging markets and developed markets all positive ... [that's the first time it's happened] since 2010," he said Thursday on CNBC's "Trading Nation."


This is the most important chart for the market in the year ahead, a top technician says
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/29/tec...ost-important-chart-for-market-next-year.html

Please don't be that stupid. It really isn't by chance.

 

[moe]

Please don't be that stupid. It really isn't by chance.

Read much? (apparently not) I'll repeat what I wrote just for you. Our GDP is up partly due to roll back of regs (there's a price to be paid) and global (and the U.S.) economies are up. Let me know if you need it posted a third time.

 

[Airport]

Read much? (apparently not) I'll repeat what I wrote just for you. Our GDP is up partly due to roll back of regs (there's a price to be paid) and global (and the U.S.) economies are up. Let me know if you need it posted a third time.

Not from anything BO did, that's the point and the price of no jobs is bigger than any make believe BS that you on the left dream up.

 

[dave]

Read much? (apparently not) I'll repeat what I wrote just for you. Our GDP is up partly due to roll back of regs (there's a price to be paid) and global (and the U.S.) economies are up. Let me know if you need it posted a third time.

Its like you are playing checkers and everyone else is playing chess. Now be quiet at the kids table little fella.

 

[moe]

Not from anything BO did, that's the point and the price of no jobs is bigger than any make believe BS that you on the left dream up.

Huh? "no jobs"? lol Your hatred for BO clouds any clear thinking that can muster (which isn't much).

 

[Airport]

Huh? "no jobs"? lol Your hatred for BO clouds any clear thinking that can muster (which isn't much).

OK, full time jobs. 30 hours and part time work isn't full. I think we should get away from the unemployment rate to worker participation rate for full time work. Both parties manipulate the unemployment rate to their own gain. I'd hope that both sides could agree that people who are no longer looking for work should be counted.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Huh? "no jobs"? lol Your hatred for BO clouds any clear thinking that can muster (which isn't much).

It's a waste of time to try and talk with airport about anything Obama related. The hate is pure with that one.

That said, I don't see your point of minimizing Trump admin and the GOP led congress's effect on the economy. The economy is a giant massive phenomenon with a lot of ins, lot of outs. Lot of what have yous. Obama brought the economy back from the cliff and put it on solid footing. Trump has the economy on the cusp of a boom. You can give credit to both.

 

[moe]

It's a waste of time to try and talk with airport about anything Obama related. The hate is pure with that one.

That said, I don't see your point of minimizing Trump admin and the GOP led congress's effect on the economy. The economy is a giant massive phenomenon with a lot of ins, lot of outs. Lot of what have yous. Obama brought the economy back from the cliff and put it on solid footing. Trump has the economy on the cusp of a boom. You can give credit to both.

My point is that it's hard to accelerate GDP growth when the economies of other countries are in the ******* which they were for much of BO's tenure. The article and associated chart show that many economies outside of the U.S. are gaining now (see 2017 & '18 as compared to the rest of the chart) while the U.S. economy picks up steam. I say that it's not a coincidence and I do give Trump credit for what he's done.

 

[Airport]

It's a waste of time to try and talk with airport about anything Obama related. The hate is pure with that one.

That said, I don't see your point of minimizing Trump admin and the GOP led congress's effect on the economy. The economy is a giant massive phenomenon with a lot of ins, lot of outs. Lot of what have yous. Obama brought the economy back from the cliff and put it on solid footing. Trump has the economy on the cusp of a boom. You can give credit to both.

If Bo had used basic capitalism instead of basic socialism, he would have had a much better economy. When you have a sick patient, you don't slowly cut the leg off, refis for people who still couldn't afford them a bad idea. Let foreclosure happen at the right pace not prolong the depression. I disliked his ideals.

 

[Airport]

My point is that it's hard to accelerate GDP growth when the economies of other countries are in the ******* which they were for much of BO's tenure. The article and associated chart show that many economies outside of the U.S. are gaining now (see 2017 & '18 as compared to the rest of the chart) while the U.S. economy picks up steam. I say that it's not a coincidence and I do give Trump credit for what he's done.

Socialism never accelerates GDP. It just spreads the misery around.

 

[moe]

Socialism never accelerates GDP. It just spreads the misery around.

Do you ever post anything but gibberish? Seriously. It doesn't seem so.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

My point is that it's hard to accelerate GDP growth when the economies of other countries are in the ******* which they were for much of BO's tenure. The article and associated chart show that many economies outside of the U.S. are gaining now (see 2017 & '18 as compared to the rest of the chart) while the U.S. economy picks up steam. I say that it's not a coincidence and I do give Trump credit for what he's done.

It came off as explaining away the economy. To me at least. No doubt the world's economy plays a major role in our economy. Well until that orange tinged baby gets his economic protectionism policies in place.

 

[moe]

Socialism never accelerates GDP. It just spreads the misery around.

You seem to like to use the term "socialism" as a substitute term for a government run program just like Trump likes calling media reports that he doesn't like "fake news". In case you've been asleep your whole adult life, the good 'ol U.S. of A. has numerous government run programs that many Americans are very dependent on. Two of those programs are Social Security and Medicare. If you use either of those programs going forward then you're the biggest hypocrite ever born, got it? And I don't care if you have contributed to SS. How could a good capitalist like yourself lower yourself to use "socialistic" programs like SS and Medicare?? (for example) Since you're a true capitalist and don't believe in "socialism" then I know that you won't draw SS or sign up for Medicare.

 

[Airport]

You seem to like to use the term "socialism" as a substitute term for a government run program just like Trump likes calling media reports that he doesn't like "fake news". In case you've been asleep your whole adult life, the good 'ol U.S. of A. has numerous government run programs that many Americans are very dependent on. Two of those programs are Social Security and Medicare. If you use either of those programs going forward then you're the biggest hypocrite ever born, got it? And I don't care if you have contributed to SS. How could a good capitalist like yourself lower yourself to use "socialistic" programs like SS and Medicare?? (for example) Since you're a true capitalist and don't believe in "socialism" then I know that you won't draw SS or sign up for Medicare.

Because, unlike you, I have been matching my SS and Medicare payments to the fullest for over 20 years. If I had all that money back, just mine, I would have more than what I will ever get back from those agencies. Now, having said that, you are 100% correct about socialized programs. We have them and now they need to be adjusted and how is that going to be done when everybody is afraid to do what's needed to save the country? Let's agree that we are going to have social programs. Lets agree that it takes money to pay for them. Let's agree that the anemic growth that we have had isn't going to be enough. Continuing that same growth will make matters worse. After 8 years, I think it's time to try what has worked in the past. Give the people a reason to make money. Not take it from them.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

My point is that it's hard to accelerate GDP growth when the economies of other countries are in the ******* which they were for much of BO's tenure. The article and associated chart show that many economies outside of the U.S. are gaining now (see 2017 & '18 as compared to the rest of the chart) while the U.S. economy picks up steam. I say that it's not a coincidence and I do give Trump credit for what he's done.

What are the chances that the world economy is growing because of what we’re doing domestically and in turn, globally?

 

[Airport]

What are the chances that the world economy is growing because of what we’re doing domestically and in turn, globally?

There is no cause effect where liberals are concerned.

 

[Keyser76]

Lol, why argue economics with Trump supporters? College makes you stupid don't it?

 

[moe]

Because, unlike you, I have been matching my SS and Medicare payments to the fullest for over 20 years.

Huh? lol Why do you think that you're the only one paying into these programs? You're a total loon. and I guess now you're ok with "socialist" government and programs? all within one thread, great. You're one great big sorry loser of a hypocrite, sad smh.

 

[WVUBRU]

I will publicly support the employer portion of FICA and medicare taxes along with FUTA and SUTA taxes. It is excellent tax policy how it is structured. Does it hurt businesses to pay this type of overhead? No, not if the business owner has a clue.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Lol, why argue economics with Trump supporters? College makes you stupid don't it?

I think in your case it was just genetics.

 

[dave]

Lol, why argue economics with Trump supporters? College makes you stupid don't it?

The irony of this post. You cant argue economics with a manatee because you dont know **** about the subject.

 

[Airport]

I will publicly support the employer portion of FICA and medicare taxes along with FUTA and SUTA taxes. It is excellent tax policy how it is structured. Does it hurt businesses to pay this type of overhead? No, not if the business owner has a clue.

His question was will I take it? I have been paying and matching to the max. every year for over 20 years. You might want to inform him how much that is. Type it slowly so @moe can read it and understand how much that amounts to for 25 years. Probably longer. I started practicing in 1980, formed my own business in 1984. Been matching my own SS taxes since 84. I don't think moe realizes business match SS medicare taxes.

 

[moe]

His question was will I take it? I have been paying and matching to the max. every year for over 20 years. You might want to inform him how much that is. Type it slowly so @moe can read it and understand how much that amounts to for 25 years. Probably longer. I started practicing in 1980, formed my own business in 1984. Been matching my own SS taxes since 84. I don't think moe realizes business match SS medicare taxes.

Everyone pays their taxes. You want some kind of special medal for paying yours? lol Aren't you just special, dang. If you want to have a business, you have to pay the taxes associated with it, duh. I suppose you want some kind of presidential commendation for that as well lol. I'm sure that there are more reasons that you're special that you'd like to tell us all about....can't wait.

 

[WVUBRU]

His question was will I take it? I have been paying and matching to the max. every year for over 20 years. You might want to inform him how much that is. Type it slowly so @moe can read it and understand how much that amounts to for 25 years. Probably longer. I started practicing in 1980, formed my own business in 1984. Been matching my own SS taxes since 84. I don't think moe realizes business match SS medicare taxes.

I think he realizes it. More importantly, I think he believes that is a good and legitimate tax as you are taking a risk of owning a business and involved in that risk are great benefits but also costs. It is assumed and I'm sure Moe also feels the way that I do and that is wishing you well in your success of the risk you take. The difference is you believe just because you own a business, your business should be exempt from taxes and get a free ride from the government and the civil responsibility to pay for them. We don't. Believe it or not, you receive benefits from the taxes you pay.

 

[Airport]

I think he realizes it. More importantly, I think he believes that is a good and legitimate tax as you are taking a risk of owning a business and involved in that risk are great benefits but also costs. It is assumed and I'm sure Moe also feels the way that I do and that is wishing you well in your success of the risk you take. The difference is you believe just because you own a business, your business should be exempt from taxes and get a free ride from the government and the civil responsibility to pay for them. We don't. Believe it or not, you receive benefits from the taxes you pay.

Did I ever say I believe I should be exempt? Never. I think that we all should be taxed if any of us are. The problem is, too many are now not paying any taxes. The reason there are high tax rates? Too many exemptions are built into it to get the taxes down to next to nothing. He just asked me if I was taking my SS and medicare? If you paid as much as I have then you know I am. SS trust fund was raided by politicians, and that's the reason there is no money left in it.

 

[Airport]

Everyone pays their taxes. You want some kind of special medal for paying yours? lol Aren't you just special, dang. If you want to have a business, you have to pay the taxes associated with it, duh. I suppose you want some kind of presidential commendation for that as well lol. I'm sure that there are more reasons that you're special that you'd like to tell us all about....can't wait.

Your question again for the slow person you are, will I take it? Yes, I've paid a lot more than you will ever pay into it. You work for somebody else. You have one personal payment, I have myself and I match myself. I have also match others. That's all this was about.

 

[moe]

Your question again for the slow person you are, will I take it? Yes, I've paid a lot more than you will ever pay into it. You work for somebody else. You have one personal payment, I have myself and I match myself. I have also match others. That's all this was about.

No one cares how much you've paid into SS, really. I can't believe that a man of principle like yourself would draw money from a socialist program like SS. How could this be? Next thing you'll tell us is that you'll sign up for socialistic Medicare benefits at the appropriate time but that's probably just crazy talk.

 

[Airport]

No one cares how much you've paid into SS, really. I can't believe that a man of principle like yourself would draw money from a socialist program like SS. How could this be? Next thing you'll tell us is that you'll sign up for socialistic Medicare benefits at the appropriate time but that's probably just crazy talk.

I've paid five times as much as a low wage earner like yourself. You bet I'm going to,

 

[moe]

I've paid five times as much as a low wage earner like yourself. You bet I'm going to,

Sounds good comrade.

 

[Airport]

Sounds good comrade.

I should not have attacked you like that. Please accept my apology.