We need to combat Christianphobia

TarHeelEer

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Events yesterday shed light on the fact that atheists are afraid of Christians. Atheists need to say good things about Christians in the coming months, years, to make up for their downfall.
 

moe

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Events yesterday shed light on the fact that atheists are afraid of Christians. Atheists need to say good things about Christians in the coming months, years, to make up for their downfall.
Huh? yeah whatever lol If you're going to blame his actions on mental health issues then don't give him credit for rational thought.
 

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Huh? yeah whatever lol If you're going to blame his actions on mental health issues then don't give him credit for rational thought.
Where did the OP give him credit for any rational thought?
 

Brushy Bill

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Huh? yeah whatever lol If you're going to blame his actions on mental health issues then don't give him credit for rational thought.

Who's saying mental health issues? He was a rabid liberal and an atheist (redundant?), he was a ticking time bomb.
 

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Mostly because they are super annoying on message boards and just parrot alt right talking points.

The lefties on here are pulling straight from the Communist Manifesto and other Marxist ideologies, so...
 

WVUCOOPER

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The lefties on here are pulling straight from the Communist Manifesto and other Marxist ideologies, so...
 

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I don't know the details about the shooter yesterday and the OP gives the impression that he was an atheist but regardless the use of the word "Christianophobia" highlights something important. Christians have given and taken in our political discourse over the last several decades but never has the notion of "If you disagree with a Christian you're a bigot" ever taken more than temporary hold anywhere. You don't get called a Christianophobe if you disagree criticize Christianity. But unfortunately you do get called an Islamophobe if you disagree with Islam.

Here is a foundational thing that constantly needs drilled into everyone. People have rights and are inherently worthy of respect. Ideas don't have rights and are not inherently worthy of respect. Every idea...EVERY IDEA...must be open to criticism.

If someone holds an idea dear and you criticize the idea you are not being a bigot or mean or anything like that, rather you are just criticizing ideas. Calling someone a bigot because they criticize an idea is nothing more than a way of trying to shut down free speech.
 

moe

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Where did the OP give him credit for any rational thought?
The OP says that atheists are afraid of Christians and claims that to be a FACT lol. He's either crazy or he's not, you all need to make up your one mind.
 

Brushy Bill

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Your fearless leader (small hands Trump) perhaps, read the news much? geez, get with the program.

Well he's wrong on this one. This guy was an antifa sympathetic loony from the left. I posted the screenshot of him saying to hit the conservatives at church.
 

moe

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Well he's wrong on this one. This guy was an antifa sympathetic loony from the left. I posted the screenshot of him saying to hit the conservatives at church.
I love it. He's crazy if a gun control argument is made but he's perfectly lucid if an anti-left criticism is to be made, good stuff. Also it's blasphemy for you to say something contrary to your hero Trump, take it back.
 

TarHeelEer

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Huh? yeah whatever lol If you're going to blame his actions on mental health issues then don't give him credit for rational thought.

I didn't blame it on mental health issues. Although anyone who guns down helpless people does have.
 

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Events yesterday shed light on the fact that atheists are afraid of Christians. Atheists need to say good things about Christians in the coming months, years, to make up for their downfall.
Afraid? No. After living in the heart of the bible belt for 18 years, I learned to ignore them.
 

Brushy Bill

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I love it. He's crazy if a gun control argument is made but he perfectly lucid if an anti-left criticism is to be made, good stuff. Also it's blasphemy for you to say something contrary to your hero Trump, take it back.

I've been paying attention over the years. You guys get off to easy by claiming "mental health issues". The fact is your team is full of Godless heathens willing to maim, kill, and destroy anything in your path to your Marxist Utopia. Why is that?
 

atlkvb

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I actually laughed with that one.

I don't like Christians who have something against big booty Women who love to show off their assets! Almighty God put that thang on them Gals, why not enjoy the view?
 

atlkvb

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Afraid? No. After living in the heart of the bible belt for 18 years, I learned to ignore them.

There are not many Leftists on this board who don't hate Christians any less than that whack job did. Maybe some are glad we have a few less around now Thanks to that Dude.
 

TarHeelEer

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Afraid? No. After living in the heart of the bible belt for 18 years, I learned to ignore them.

Christianphobe. You are part of the problem. You must lift up Christians to make up for your movement's evil ways.
 

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Sometimes (not as often as in the past) it has made perfect sense for atheists to be afraid of Christians. Note that that is different from being afraid of Christianity. No atheist is afraid of Christianity.
 

atlkvb

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I don't know the details about the shooter yesterday and the OP gives the impression that he was an atheist but regardless the use of the word "Christianophobia" highlights something important. Christians have given and taken in our political discourse over the last several decades but never has the notion of "If you disagree with a Christian you're a bigot" ever taken more than temporary hold anywhere. You don't get called a Christianophobe if you disagree criticize Christianity. But unfortunately you do get called an Islamophobe if you disagree with Islam.

Here is a foundational thing that constantly needs drilled into everyone. People have rights and are inherently worthy of respect. Ideas don't have rights and are not inherently worthy of respect. Every idea...EVERY IDEA...must be open to criticism.

If someone holds an idea dear and you criticize the idea you are not being a bigot or mean or anything like that, rather you are just criticizing ideas. Calling someone a bigot because they criticize an idea is nothing more than a way of trying to shut down free speech.

I agree with most of this. The problem is disagreement with Christianity often leads some loopy loons like this Dude to want to see Chriatians dead. So them believing is not good enough for crackpots like him. They must be killed for their Faith even the little kids.

That's not disagreement that's Evil.
 

moe

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The fact is your team is full of Godless heathens willing to maim, kill, and destroy anything in your path to your Marxist Utopia. Why is that?
After spewing that nonsense, how come you're not in a straight jacket or are you now? A padded room on meds is a good place for you nutbag.
 

atlkvb

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Mostly because they are super annoying on message boards and just parrot alt right talking points.

I don't get how Christians stir up such wrath in athiests who don't believe their God even exists?

It's like me worrying about Pitt making it to the College football playoffs before 2030. Not even close to being possible, so why worry about it?

Athiests don't think Almighty God exists, why get so upset with a bunch of folks who obviously are delusional if you're skeptical of their Faith in a non existent being?

Why not let em go on fooling themselves like Pitt fans?
 

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I don't get how Christians stir up such wrath in athiests who don't believe their God even exists?

It's like me worrying about Pitt making it to the College football playoffs before 2030. Not even close to being possible, so why worry about it?

Athiests don't think Almighty God exists, why get so upset with a bunch of folks who obviously are delusional if you're skeptical kf their Faith in a non existent being?

Why not let em go on fooling themselves like Pitt fans?
Can you point to where I do?
 

WVUCOOPER

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Not really Coop didn't say you did. But let me just ask you do you hate Christians or are they just like delusional Pitt fans to you?
I'm not 12. I don't hate entire groups of people just for belonging to a group of people.
 

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I don't get how Christians stir up such wrath in athiests who don't believe their God even exists?

It's like me worrying about Pitt making it to the College football playoffs before 2030. Not even close to being possible, so why worry about it?

Athiests don't think Almighty God exists, why get so upset with a bunch of folks who obviously are delusional if you're skeptical of their Faith in a non existent being?

Why not let em go on fooling themselves like Pitt fans?

Because the beliefs of Chrisitians bleed over into how society is run. If people just believe and do their church thing and stop there then nobody would care. People don't sit around complaining about Jews believing in Judaism but that's because Jews aren't pushing it on the rest of society.

Some non-believers literally go through their lives in the closet with respect to their non-belief. Do you think they do this just for the heck of it? No, there are repercussions if they openly disbelieve. Change that and you'll change a lot of the animosity you see.

I have an idea, how about we take "In God We Trust" off the money. What's the reaction to that? Outrage. Note I didn't say "and replace it with 'There Is No God' on the money," and yet the reaction is still outrage. It's just a symbolic thing that has no real effect and yet people still get outraged. That is the kind of dominance that non-believers get tired of.
 

Brushy Bill

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Because the beliefs of Chrisitians bleed over into how society is run. If people just believe and do their church thing and stop there then nobody would care. People don't sit around complaining about Jews believing in Judaism but that's because Jews aren't pushing it on the rest of society.

Some non-believers literally go through their lives in the closet with respect to their non-belief. Do you think they do this just for the heck of it? No, there are repercussions if they openly disbelieve. Change that and you'll change a lot of the animosity you see.

I have an idea, how about we take "In God We Trust" off the money. What's the reaction to that? Outrage. Note I didn't say "and replace it with 'There Is No God' on the money," and yet the reaction is still outrage. It's just a symbolic thing that has no real effect and yet people still get outraged. That is the kind of dominance that non-believers get tired of.

You guys weren't complaining when Christians built Western Civilization.
 

atlkvb

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Because the beliefs of Chrisitians bleed over into how society is run. If people just believe and do their church thing and stop there then nobody would care. People don't sit around complaining about Jews believing in Judaism but that's because Jews aren't pushing it on the rest of society.

Some non-believers literally go through their lives in the closet with respect to their non-belief. Do you think they do this just for the heck of it? No, there are repercussions if they openly disbelieve. Change that and you'll change a lot of the animosity you see.

I have an idea, how about we take "In God We Trust" off the money. What's the reaction to that? Outrage. Note I didn't say "and replace it with 'There Is No God' on the money," and yet the reaction is still outrage. It's just a symbolic thing that has no real effect and yet people still hey outraged. That is the kind of dominance that non-believers get tired of.

But you're not forced to believe Op2. You can use that money the same way, why does In God we Trust effect its value on you unless you think it doesn't exist or isnt real either?

You want it removed but you have no belief in what is says anyway so why is that important to you? Folks who do believe have to keep silent about that? Isn't that what you're arguing against?
 

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You guys weren't complaining when Christians built Western Civilization.

There were very few non-Christians in the west when Western Civilization was being built and what few there were sure as hell weren't free to speak out as non-Christians. Even Christians were subjected to witch hunts, etc, back then.