Toggle sidebar

Question for WVU fans

Reply
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
First time venturing over here to interact with WVU fans.
Hopefully you are not afraid of another perspective on your message board.

I am wondering what is missing from WVU. Most of the Big XII wants WVU to return to their glory days of the 80's, early 90's and under Rich Rod.

Is not playing schools like Pitt and Va Tech every year causing a lost of direction for the Mountaineers. It seems like the games are no longer as big as they once were in Morgantown.

I think with UT beginning to return to their rightful position in Big XII football along with games against OU and the cockroaches WVU can begin to place importance in their new conference rivals instead of their old conference rivals.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
I guess WVU no longer cares of about their football program.
The problem with that is if WVU doesn't start winning and maintaining at least a Top 15 ranking every year the Big XII will be no longer with UT, OU and a combination of four schools heading west.

You do not lose to the Cockroaches even in Ft. Worth. WVU should be competing with OU and UT for Top Texas recruits every year by winning big games.
5 years later it seems like the Big XII has broke your football program
 
W

WVinUSAF

Redshirt
Jan 8, 2003
9,702
23
0
CALonghorn83 said:
I guess WVU no longer cares of about their football program.
The problem with that is if WVU doesn't start winning and maintaining at least a Top 15 ranking every year the Big XII will be no longer with UT, OU and a combination of four schools heading west.

You do not lose to the Cockroaches even in Ft. Worth. WVU should be competing with OU and UT for Top Texas recruits every year by winning big games.
5 years later it seems like the Big XII has broke your football program
Click to expand...
WTF has Texas done lately? All those highly rated recuiting classes and you all still suck.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
UT has tried to lay low so the underlings of the Big XII can feast.
Problem is some of you cannot even win when given a handout. WVU and the Liberty Bowl a couple of years ago.
For the most part WVU has been competitive but the Moutaineers was brought in to be much more than competitive.
 
S

Soaring Eagle 74

Freshman
Jan 4, 2008
22,888
69
0
CALonghorn83 said:
First time venturing over here to interact with WVU fans.
Hopefully you are not afraid of another perspective on your message board.

I am wondering what is missing from WVU. Most of the Big XII wants WVU to return to their glory days of the 80's, early 90's and under Rich Rod.

Is not playing schools like Pitt and Va Tech every year causing a lost of direction for the Mountaineers. It seems like the games are no longer as big as they once were in Morgantown.

I think with UT beginning to return to their rightful position in Big XII football along with games against OU and the cockroaches WVU can begin to place importance in their new conference rivals instead of their old conference rivals.
Click to expand...

So, what year did you graduate from Pitt?

We see lots and lots of posers on this board, so guys like you are pretty easy to spot.

Two words:

Ig nore
 
C

Chazz Michael Michaels

Redshirt
Oct 19, 2009
1,934
11
0
Wvu best texas last year. And the year before
Didn’t Texas lose last year to Kansas? And then lost in week 1 to the terps- who just got demolished and had 66 yards of offense.
So, the underlings here are the longhorns.

CALonghorn83 said:
UT has tried to lay low so the underlings of the Big XII can feast.
Problem is some of you cannot even win when given a handout. WVU and the Liberty Bowl a couple of years ago.
For the most part WVU has been competitive but the Moutaineers was brought in to be much more than competitive.
Click to expand...
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
Finally I see some fight out of WVU.
Thought you guys were a bunch of pussies up in the mountains for a minute.
Too bad your football team cannot represent that fight in their performance on the football field.
WVU should be a 10 win team every year now with access to Texas talent.
 
O

oceantide83

Redshirt
Jan 6, 2005
12,637
20
0
Access to Texas talent? Yeah right. We've got about 100 Texas schools to compete with and Dana and staff has pretty much pulled out of there as it's a waste of time and effort.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
oceantide83 said:
Access to Texas talent? Yeah right. We've got about 100 Texas schools to compete with and Dana and staff has pretty much pulled out of there as it's a waste of time and effort.
Click to expand...

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Season/2018-Football/Offers

Fact check. Looks like WVU has made a lot of offers to players in Texas.
Ever since Todd Graham was there in Morgantown coaching under RichRod in the early 2000's the Mountaineers have made Texas recruiting a priority.
Joining the Big XII made it a bigger priority
 
F

firkinEER

Redshirt
Nov 25, 2011
547
0
0
Maybe you play a few seasons in the ACC and you'll understand.

Is Texas going to have a winning season this year ?

2013 was awhile ago..
 
W

WVUFanForever

Redshirt
Oct 1, 2004
13,368
20
0
No doubt....Texas got beat at home by Maryland....who just got their arses handed to them by Ohio State.

They are the last team that should ever talk trash.

That said...it is probably a spitt or Moo fan.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
Don't you know about not biting the hand that feeds you.
Without UT, WVU would be in the AAC.

I guess you guys believe you are running the Big XII out of Morgantown.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
I am just wondering how in the world do you feel that losing to the Cockroaches is not a bad thing.

They are the type of school who creates history because of their insecurities. Research their fake 1935 National Championships.

It is a shock to most of the Big XII how a school with the football history of WVU loses to some small private Christian school that was left for dead in the WAC.
Every time UT loses to TCU someone gets fired.
Time for WVU to hold the same standards
 
WVUALLEN

WVUALLEN

All-American
Aug 4, 2009
72,671
5,471
113
CALonghorn83 said:
I am just wondering how in the world do you feel that losing to the Cockroaches is not a bad thing.

They are the type of school who creates history because of their insecurities. Research their fake 1935 National Championships.

It is a shock to most of the Big XII how a school with the football history of WVU loses to some small private Christian school that was left for dead in the WAC.
Every time UT loses to TCU someone gets fired.
Time for WVU to hold the same standards
Click to expand...

 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
WVU is stuck in their past mindset. You no longer play Pitt, Va Tech or whatever ACC school you dislike.
You get the chance to play OU and UT every year.
Pitt has been irrelevaant since Johnny Majors went to Tennessee. Va Tech? They have had one great coach. One who couldn't even win a National Championship.
A few years ago the ACC had lost I believe it was 7 or 8 major bowls in a row.
The ACC is dogshit compared to the Big XII.
Let that sink in for a minute.

It is time for WVU to begin to adopt the alpha role in their past relationship and to begin to circle OU and UT.
Look at what it did for Arkansas. A State much like yours. Your situation in the Big XII is very similar to Arkansas' situation in the SWC.
In the 60's 70's and 80's Arkansas was a big time football program.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
burg_eer said:
Texas = automatic W

Go talk **** on the Kansas board. Someone you MIGHT be able to beat.
Click to expand...

But KU beat us as well last year their first win against UT in 80 years.
Don't you know UT is 2-0 in the conference this year.
Actually the conference leader preparing to play in the championship game I mean the Red River Rivarly this week.

Do you guys even Big XII up there.
You should pay much better attention to the conference
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
burg_eer said:
EVERYONE takes turns beating up on the cream puffs from Austin.

Like I said... automatic W.
Click to expand...

Alternative facts.
We all can create our own histories if we like.
Just look at TCU.

Simple facts work the best.
All SWC members had a losing record against UT
All original Big 12 members had a losing record against UT except for K State. This is the peak of K State football and they have only managed a slighty better record.
That leaves WVU who entered in 2012. The 6 games they played against UT has been the worst 6 years in the history of UT football.

Let that sink in for a minute. You should actually be 6-0 against UT these last 6 years because how horrible they have been.
In most decades if WVU stays in the Big XII it will be anywhere from 6-4 UT to 10-0 UT.
Luckily for WVU you may make it 5-5 this decade against UT.

Afterall you still have two more home games against UT in Morgantown.

To have a chance to be one of the few schools who have had a winning record against UT in a decade you better circle that game this year.
It will pretty much prove to PItt and Va Tech you are the alpha up there in Appalachia
 
B

burg_eer

Redshirt
Dec 23, 2016
1,287
40
0
Blah Blah Blah.

Come back when Texas is .500 against WVU (It'll be a while).

If you're a MooU fan = 0-12
If you're a Pitt fan = HAHAHA
 
T

TejasFan

Redshirt
Jun 13, 2004
905
0
0
Money can't buy love. At least the Texas Longhorn's can't buy love with money. They have 90% of all the money in Texas and can't win the Big 12 championship. In fact, the Longhorns struggle just like all the other Big 12 teams just to get in a mid major bowl. Say it ain't so............Joe. Warez
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
TejasFan said:
Money can't buy love. At least the Texas Longhorn's can't buy love with money. They have 90% of all the money in Texas and can't win the Big 12 championship. In fact, the Longhorns struggle just like all the other Big 12 teams just to get in a mid major bowl. Say it ain't so............Joe. Warez
Click to expand...

UT doesn't have to win on the football field to have a bigger seat at the table.
You must understand the circumstances that WVU found when they came into the Big XII. 4 universities just left and the general narrative at the time was UT and OU was doomed because they did not play anybody anymore. Since 2012 the Big XII has seen decent programs at Okie Lite, K State, TCU and Baylor. It looks like even Iowa State is getting their program in order.
Now the General narrative is any of 5 to 6 schools can win the Big XII.
The Big XII in Texas is a better product than the SEC.
The ratings in Texas on Saturday night proved this.
Aggy playing the number 1 team Bama could not pull a bigger auidence in terms of television than UT playing K State.
 
S

spartansstink

Redshirt
Sep 24, 2005
3,374
0
0
Well, to your last point, outside of Texas, nobody gives a crap about Texas anymore.

The "name" UT made for themselves in the 60's and 70's was well earned. However, that isn't the state of college football today. Today, its all about what did you do yesterday, not what did you do during the Carter administration (or Reagan, Clinton, or even Obama). UT doesn't even have a "name" anymore except only to themselves.

Now, to your original post, there is a litany of reasons. Too many to make in a post like this. And yes, one of them is there are some who cling to the "good ole days" and the rivalries of the past. These just don't die away and get forgotten because you move to separate conferences. Just look at your own post for example. You brought up the Aggies, who have moved on (and some would say surpassed) from UT into another conference yet you still brought them up in regards to TV ratings. So, the question could be asked of you, why hasn't UT moved on and picked up the slack?
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
spartansstink said:
Well, to your last point, outside of Texas, nobody gives a crap about Texas anymore.

The "name" UT made for themselves in the 60's and 70's was well earned. However, that isn't the state of college football today. Today, its all about what did you do yesterday, not what did you do during the Carter administration (or Reagan, Clinton, or even Obama). UT doesn't even have a "name" anymore except only to themselves.

Now, to your original post, there is a litany of reasons. Too many to make in a post like this. And yes, one of them is there are some who cling to the "good ole days" and the rivalries of the past. These just don't die away and get forgotten because you move to separate conferences. Just look at your own post for example. You brought up the Aggies, who have moved on (and some would say surpassed) from UT into another conference yet you still brought them up in regards to TV ratings. So, the question could be asked of you, why hasn't UT moved on and picked up the slack?
Click to expand...


UT can survive just with Texas alone. Especially with the current situation in Texas. The economy in Texas has diversified. Every city in the triangle is a magnet for growth. With Austin being the main research and technology sector.
The real issue is when WVU attempts to bring down UT they are actually bringing down themselves.
Meaning that if the LHN and the Big XII fails so does WVU. Your university, state and fanbase has a vested interest in promoting UT. You may disagree but I would hate to see the consequences in Morgantown when WVU is no longer in a power conferences.
Go ahead and believe the Aggy narrative. I know deep down alot of WVU fans wish they were in the SEC.
Maybe if you continue the narrative out of Birmingham Bama will let you in as well. They could always use another lap dog. I doubt they will because your state has not anything Bama wants.
 
Last edited:
S

spartansstink

Redshirt
Sep 24, 2005
3,374
0
0
No, I don't think so. If the BII fails, we all get picked up by somebody. There is too much money to be made, and THAT is what college football has become, to let anything drastic happen.

Can UT survive - absolutely, with or without WVU or the Big XII. Yet, not as well alone as they would in a conference somewhere.

Do some of us wish we were in the SEC? Oh yeah, me included. The Big XII is like dating the homecoming queen; the SEC is like dating a supermodel. And yes, we would be Bama's lap dog, too. Well fed and groomed to go along with it. So, as bad as we would be beaten (like a drum usually), what would that make Texas who can't even beat us?
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
spartansstink said:
No, I don't think so. If the BII fails, we all get picked up by somebody. There is too much money to be made, and THAT is what college football has become, to let anything drastic happen.

Can UT survive - absolutely, with or without WVU or the Big XII. Yet, not as well alone as they would in a conference somewhere.

Do some of us wish we were in the SEC? Oh yeah, me included. The Big XII is like dating the homecoming queen; the SEC is like dating a supermodel. And yes, we would be Bama's lap dog, too. Well fed and groomed to go along with it. So, as bad as we would be beaten (like a drum usually), what would that make Texas who can't even beat us?
Click to expand...

The issue is what if the ACC falls apart by 2025 and not the BIG XII.
I am sure WVU knows that the SEC and BIG is interested in the Virgina schools and the two main Carolina schools. I have even heard out of the SEC they would settle for NC State if they could get Va Tech as well.
I am sure WVU would rather be in the Big XII with third tier rights and schools they are familiar with like Louisville and Va Tech.
 
S

spartansstink

Redshirt
Sep 24, 2005
3,374
0
0
I (personally) couldn't care less if the ACC falls apart. Or any other conference for that matter. Conferences are the problem to start with - not the solution.

Don't really get involved in conference what ifs because that stuff is just boring drivel in my opinion.

But to answer your final question - of course. I like where WVU is now. I like Texas, Oklahoma, and all the rest. Would it be better with some teams that would lessen some of the travel - absolutely. But, its just fine without any new ones too.
 
C

CaliforniaLonghorn

Freshman
Sep 25, 2017
126
52
3
spartansstink said:
I (personally) couldn't care less if the ACC falls apart. Or any other conference for that matter. Conferences are the problem to start with - not the solution.

Don't really get involved in conference what ifs because that stuff is just boring drivel in my opinion.

But to answer your final question - of course. I like where WVU is now. I like Texas, Oklahoma, and all the rest. Would it be better with some teams that would lessen some of the travel - absolutely. But, its just fine without any new ones too.
Click to expand...

I truthfully wish the Supreme Court did not make the ruling in the 80's or even go further back I wish LSU and Ole Miss made the trip to Dallas when the SWC was formed from the SIAA.

UT was not able to join the SEC in the 1980's because Bama did not want to make all the concessions UT wanted so they used Arkansas and the Texas legislature to keep UT out.
Funny thing is with all those states Bama finally beat UT in 2010 National Championship game.
First time they ever beat the Longhorns in their history.

I think WVU understands third tier rights. As of now they are bringing in more money than their rivals.
The issue is these third tier rights cause a lot of problems with the media outlets. They therefore have to bid for the right to broadcast games instead of having these rights given to them with conference deals.

If the ACC collapses then the three universities will be in the Big XII for sure: Florida St, Clemson and Miami.
The other three will be a combination of the following schools: Va Tech, Louisville, Ga Tech and NC State

PItt for sure will not be included because Penn St wants PItt to no longer be a Power Conference University and the BIG is needed if the ACC breaks up.
 
Last edited:
N

Nova Mountaineer

Freshman
Jul 22, 2001
9,191
64
0
Longhorn - one thing about Mountaineer fans is that they love to go to away games.
In Big East other than Miami could drive to games easily. Not so in the Big 12. Indeed in Morgantown Conference games generate interest for the most part. Being in Big 12 is a change of culture for us (see above). In addition, it wasn't unusual for Mountaineer fans to work with and/or live in the same neighborhoods as some old Big East schools' alumni.
 
Top Bottom
Reply