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a lot of folks would feel they have to make a choice. love of trump vs love of wvu. i don't like wvu's chances
 

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So by your logic, because they are cleared of charges means they were justified in using deadly force?

Damn, you're a moron.

They gunned down a 12-year old kid without warning. They choked to death a guy for selling "loose" cigarettes. They shot a guy sitting in his car 4 times while his girlfriend filmed it and his 2-year-old child sat in the back seat. Yes, all of these cops were "cleared of all charges." OJ was too? Do you not think he killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman?


a few years ago, i posted a new video of police brutality against african americans every day... until posters begged me to stop. maybe it's time to do it again
 

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Ah, the media double standard. When a NFL player kneels in protest, it’s considered unifying, according to media. When Tim Tebow kneels in prayer, NBC calls it polarizing. While the NFL outrage poured in on all fronts over the weekend, resulting in mass protests among football players that were heavily encouraged by both the media and liberal celebrities, it’s interesting to note that about six years ago, these same outlets bashed quarterback Tim Tebow for kneeling on the field in prayer.

CBS Chicago.com called Tebow little more than an affable simpleton earlier that same year. And when the New York Jets hired Tebow, Nation sports editorDave Zirin accused them of moving backwards 30 or 40 years because LGBT fans didn’t like Tebow.

There wasn’t even a real controversy perpetrated by Tebow. He didn’t commit a crime or protest. CBS Sports columnist Gregg Doyel said in 2011 that if Tebow had more class he’d just kill dogs or get drunk and run over somebody and maybe end their life. The stream of unjustified hate was unending.

The media will praise Kaepernick because liberal public activism is always encouraged as a part of the media’s agenda. But simply act the part of a pious Christian, then you will be deemed “polarizing” and “simple.”
 

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a few years ago, i posted a new video of police brutality against african americans every day... until posters begged me to stop. maybe it's time to do it again
You do realize there are statistics that show police kill more whites than blacks? Also, blacks kill more blacks than whites. There are bad people in all professions. For every crooked cop, there’s a lot of good ones. And if blacks, whites, Browns, etc don’t want arrested, shot, don’t resist arrest, run, and pull guns and weapons on them. Pretty simple.
 
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So by your logic, because they are cleared of charges means they were justified in using deadly force?

Damn, you're a moron.

They gunned down a 12-year old kid without warning. They choked to death a guy for selling "loose" cigarettes. They shot a guy sitting in his car 4 times while his girlfriend filmed it and his 2-year-old child sat in the back seat. Yes, all of these cops were "cleared of all charges." OJ was too? Do you not think he killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman?
You do realize there are statistics that show police kill more whites than blacks? Also, blacks kill more blacks than whites. There are bad people in all professions. For every crooked cop, there’s a lot of good ones. And if blacks, whites, Browns, etc don’t want arrested, shot, don’t resist arrest, run, and pull guns and weapons on them. Pretty simple.
 

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You do realize there are statistics that show police kill more whites than blacks? Also, blacks kill more blacks than whites. There are bad people in all professions. For every crooked cop, there’s a lot of good ones. And if blacks, whites, Browns, etc don’t want arrested, shot, don’t resist arrest, run, and pull guns and weapons on them. Pretty simple.

Black people are only 13% of the population. You should consider the percentages when analyzing police brutality. But by all means make up your own mind.
 

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Black people are only 13% of the population. You should consider the percentages when analyzing police brutality. But by all means make up your own mind.
And yet, Barrack Obama was elected TWICE as president. Racism towards blacks is an overplayed Card. As for police brutality, try not committing crime and attacking the police. Statistics show treatment is no different across all races by police. It’s not a race issue.
 

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And yet, Barrack Obama was elected TWICE as president. Racism towards blacks is an overplayed Card. As for police brutality, try not committing crime and attacking the police. Statistics show treatment is no different across all races by police. It’s not a race issue.

How do you know it's not s race issue? What is your evidence
 

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How do you know it's not s race issue? What is your evidence
What’s your evidence it is? You say the statistics don’t count showing cops kill more whites because “blacks only represent 13% of the population”. Does that mean statistics showing blacks commit more crime doesn’t count either?
 

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What’s your evidence it is? You say the statistics don’t count showing cops kill more whites because “blacks only represent 13% of the population”. Does that mean statistics showing blacks commit more crime doesn’t count either?


I've never won an argument on a message board but it's not because I'm not right. If you wish to learn more about this topic I recommend this for easy reading; https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias/amp

If you do like data and raw analysis try this: https://law.yale.edu/system/files/area/workshop/leo/leo16_fryer.pdf
 

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I've never won an argument on a message board but it's not because I'm not right. If you wish to learn more about this topic I recommend this for easy reading; https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias/amp

If you do like data and raw analysis try this: https://law.yale.edu/system/files/area/workshop/leo/leo16_fryer.pdf
And my counter is this...

http://amp.nationalreview.com/artic...tings-black-men-race-not-reason-causal-effect
 

wvpaper

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I saw something similar on brietbart a while back. I also recommend you consider checking other types of information sources, if only for variety of perspective.
 

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I think we both agree there is a problem in America. We just disagree on the reason.

Not sure what we agree on, but this country has not been more divided since 1865. And there is no quick fix. Perhaps we agree on that?

I hope you consider looking those links.
 

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Not sure what we agree on, but this country has not been more divided since 1865. And there is no quick fix. Perhaps we agree on that?

I hope you consider looking those links.
Yes, we agree on that. I’m always willing to look at both sides of an issue. I do wish the media would return to being unbiased and stick to facts instead of agenda based opinions. They are IMO, the biggest divisive source of our problems.
 

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If this ever happens - i'd be looking for matches for my tickets. As long as they are wearing the uniform they are representing West Virginia University and I suggest that the University should make it absolutely clear - it's stand up and be respectful of the flag. What they do on their own time and out of uniform is there business, but in uniform it's another matter entirely.
 

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You know until now I thought you were a loser posing as a retired sports writer and too ignorant not to use bold red letters to communicate in a forum. Now I see your true persona as as aging antifa supporter who wants to "fit in" and try to look "cool and hip." You aren't. sad

Exactly my thoughts. I can just imagine him virtue signaling all the time and telling people to "Stay off my lawn!" if they aren't members of ANTIFA.
 

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If this ever happens - i'd be looking for matches for my tickets. As long as they are wearing the uniform they are representing West Virginia University and I suggest that the University should make it absolutely clear - it's stand up and be respectful of the flag. What they do on their own time and out of uniform is there business, but in uniform it's another matter entirely.

Have you ever gone to the concession stand or took a pi$$ during the anthem? This is a non-issue that nobody should ever worry about. I see photographers disrespecting the flag every event by taking pictures (some with hats on) while the anthem is playing. Oh, but they are "doing their job". Yeah, whatever.
 

Nova Mountaineer

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As a veteran to me it is important to recognize and honor the flag. And the question posed was what our reaction would be if the Mountaineer athletes did not so honor. I answered that as best I could. Your opinion is of course your opinion and I'm fine by that and don't intend to make fun of that opinion or your right to have it. After all veterans stepped forward and served to insure you have that right.
 

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Have you ever gone to the concession stand or took a pi$$ during the anthem? This is a non-issue that nobody should ever worry about. I see photographers disrespecting the flag every event by taking pictures (some with hats on) while the anthem is playing. Oh, but they are "doing their job". Yeah, whatever.

This. How many rich ******** are swilling liquor in their luxury boxes and negotiating business deals when the anthem is being played? I've been in the suites at MPS plenty of times and guess what, only a select few recognize the anthem when its being played. The rest are all talking and not paying a bit of attention to it.

But hey, let's all get raging pissed off when a player takes a knee.
 

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Well I'll be damned. You have it all figured out. Good job!

You can give him a snarky ***, douche response like that but he's accurate. There are a lot of bad shoots and outright murders by bad cops, always have been, but it only really matters to your ilk when there is a racial narrative tied to it.

Never see the far left liberals lamenting and marching about Chicago murders which are predominately black on black crimes.............why is that? Don't bother...........you and I know the answer.

GTFO with your selective social justice.........
 

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This. How many rich ******** are swilling liquor in their luxury boxes and negotiating business deals when the anthem is being played? I've been in the suites at MPS plenty of times and guess what, only a select few recognize the anthem when its being played. The rest are all talking and not paying a bit of attention to it.

But hey, let's all get raging pissed off when a player takes a knee.

Go protest at your work place, see how it goes for you.........I could give a **** less what the NFL players do for the other 6 days and 21 hours of their week but when you are on the clock do your job and keep your political BS to yourselves.

The whole point is why should very rich sporting employees get a pass for protesting while on the job? 99 % of the rest of America aren't afforded that luxury. Pffft. Most of those that kneel won't back it up with anything but divisive rhetoric and inaction.

I actually admire Kaepernick, at least he gave up a lot for his stance. He might not be the brightest guy, especially opting out and losing all of the money in San Fran and I'm fairly certain that his very activist GF lured him down her rabbit hole.........pun indeed intended........but he paid a price for his activism. I still would have liked to see him be more conciliatory instead of divisive but his wag is very racist so..............yeah.
 
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This. How many rich ******** are swilling liquor in their luxury boxes and negotiating business deals when the anthem is being played? I've been in the suites at MPS plenty of times and guess what, only a select few recognize the anthem when its being played. The rest are all talking and not paying a bit of attention to it.

But hey, let's all get raging pissed off when a player takes a knee.
Another liberal spin, “But, what about others? They do it too!” As if that makes it ok. Jeffery Dahmer killed, mutilated, and ate people. Does that mean it’s ok? Or should we do the same? 2 wrongs do not make a right.
 

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If any BB player takes a knee I'd laugh my ars off when Huggs puts them on the bike for the rest of the evening. They wouldn't do it again.
 

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a lot of folks would feel they have to make a choice. love of trump vs love of wvu. i don't like wvu's chances
Paying respect to the flag isn't a Trump vs WVU thing. It's respect for the country.
Your response is typical of the left wingers that hijack everything to make it against anything conservative.
 

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a few years ago, i posted a new video of police brutality against african americans every day... until posters begged me to stop. maybe it's time to do it again
Why don't you post every day the brutal shootings of young blacks in Chicago....... by other young blacks.
 

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Another liberal spin, “But, what about others? They do it too!” As if that makes it ok. Jeffery Dahmer killed, mutilated, and ate people. Does that mean it’s ok? Or should we do the same? 2 wrongs do not make a right.

Really, Dahmer? Just pointing out the hypocrisy. It's everywhere - left, right, middle. But hey, let's compare cannibalistic murder to not standing for the flag. Jesus.
 
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You can give him a snarky ***, douche response like that but he's accurate. There are a lot of bad shoots and outright murders by bad cops, always have been, but it only really matters to your ilk when there is a racial narrative tied to it.

Never see the far left liberals lamenting and marching about Chicago murders which are predominately black on black crimes.............why is that? Don't bother...........you and I know the answer.

GTFO with your selective social justice.........


Congratulations. You worked in "your ilk" and "racial narrative" in to the same post.

Impressive.