West Virginia Road Bond...

WVUCOOPER

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I voted yes earlier today. Anyone else early voted? Who is for or against it? I'm afraid it's going to fail due to the timing of the election.
 

dave

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I voted yes earlier today. Anyone else early voted? Who is for or against it? I'm afraid it's going to fail due to the timing of the election.
Voted for it Saturday as did my wife. I fear it will fail because people are dumb.
 

Mntneer

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I voted yes earlier today. Anyone else early voted? Who is for or against it? I'm afraid it's going to fail due to the timing of the election.

I'm mixed. On one hand we desperately need the road spending. On the other hand, from what I understand from my friends in road building side of things, this bill takes a great deal of funding out of the maintenance budget and re-allocates it. Some fuzzy math apparently. That in the short term we will have lots of new road projects, but much less funding for maintenance in the future.
 

WVUCOOPER

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Dec 10, 2002
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I'm mixed. On one hand we desperately need the road spending. On the other hand, from what I understand from my friends in road building side of things, this bill takes a great deal of funding out of the maintenance budget and re-allocates it. Some fuzzy math apparently. That in the short term we will have lots of new road projects, but much less funding for maintenance in the future.
Not sure I understand? The reason for the bond is to sell bonds, ie borrow the money, to fund the new projects....why would we touch the general fund for maintenance.

Also, I think would hope all of these major updates should bring our M&R costs down, no?
 

dave

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I'm mixed. On one hand we desperately need the road spending. On the other hand, from what I understand from my friends in road building side of things, this bill takes a great deal of funding out of the maintenance budget and re-allocates it. Some fuzzy math apparently. That in the short term we will have lots of new road projects, but much less funding for maintenance in the future.
It takes a lot of burden off the DOH because these projects are planned to be built but they need to save some of their annual budget to fund them. Passing the bill frees up currebt funding for maintenance. In the long run the DOH needs a bigger budget because almost every road, state, county and US Route in the state is owned by the DOH.
 
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One of my cycling routes goes by a house where they proudly fly the US flag, a Trump flag and the Confederate flag. They had a makeshift cardboard sign in the front yard this weekend stating "Vote No on Road Bond."

smh.
 

dave

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One of my cycling routes goes by a house where they proudly fly the US flag, a Trump flag and the Confederate flag. They had a makeshift cardboard sign in the front yard this weekend stating "Vote No on Road Bond."

smh.
I stopped reading at cycling. Do they give you a bag of dicks with the bike?
 

dave

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Says the guy who pussed out on meeting me in person.

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I did? I kinda figured you were not serious because you chose a football game and one over a month away. Sorry if I have better things to do at a home game than meet some homo cycler who stalks me on the internet.
 

roopoo

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I'm mixed. On one hand we desperately need the road spending. On the other hand, from what I understand from my friends in road building side of things, this bill takes a great deal of funding out of the maintenance budget and re-allocates it. Some fuzzy math apparently. That in the short term we will have lots of new road projects, but much less funding for maintenance in the future.
Something like 3/4 of the projects are allocating money for maintenance or renovations, so it isn't just new projects. These are projects that are projected out over the next like 10 years, and the money, through additional DOH fees etc, is already earmarked. This allows the state earlier access to funds to start the projects now, versus 5 years from now. If people stood back and realized how bad our road infrastructure is , bridges in particular...this is a total no brainer. It costs everyone absolutely nothing...it's already coming out of your pocket, so why wait if you can get it now? From what I have read, the maintenance budget doesn't change at all, so in addition to regular maintenance, there will be even more maintenance to improve the roads.
 

old buzzard

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Two yes votes for the bond from my household, but my feeling is that it will fail. Too many old folks make a habit of voting NO on any and every bond that is put up for a vote.
 

dave

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Around 2006-07 I worked for a company in Teays Valley and we had a few retired DOH engineers and all three had been in the top 3 or 4 positions at the DOH. I had many discussions with them at the time about road budget funding at the DOH. It was underfunded then and had been for some time. They were on a blue ribbon panel to identify and classify necessary road projects and when they would generally be designed and built since funding was very tight. The DOH was moving all state roads from a 6 year paving schedule to an 8 year schedule to free up budget.

I wondered why it was so difficult to get the legislature to raise road funding and the answer was that politicians poll to see what is most important to their constituents and roads were always 5th or 6th important so they pols just never got around to that.
 
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I voted yes earlier today. Anyone else early voted? Who is for or against it? I'm afraid it's going to fail due to the timing of the election.
my brother and I stand to lose a chunk of our property in Wetzel county if it passes...when will the results be known?
 

brandonmartyn

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we own a section along rt 2 in Proctor that would be made into 4 lanes instead of two....i see a shafting in our future....I blame Trump

They need to worry about Route 20 first before multiple sections slide right off into the creek or onto railroad tracks.