Simms misbehavior cost WVU against Virginia Tech

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

 

[Soaring Eagle 74]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

You post this as if it is a fact. It is not. It's just your opinion. Lay-off the young man.

 

[Vernon]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

Simms may have helped but he doesn't play defense and he's just one man on special teams. WVU and VT were closely matched and he may have made a few plays that would have given WVU a chance to win but you can't say he cost them the game.

More than anything fans need to worry about him off of the field rather than on.

 

[LUVPOWERFB]

Simms may have helped but he doesn't play defense and he's just one man on special teams. WVU and VT were closely matched and he may have made a few plays that would have given WVU a chance to win but you can't say he cost them the game.

More than anything fans need to worry about him off of the field rather than on.

I can't help but wonder....Will's first long pass vs. Tech....not sure who it was intended for....Jennings? Anyway, it was overthrown. Can't help but wonder if Simms had played, and had been the target of that pass....might he have made the catch, with his speed? I guess we could speculate on these things all day.

 

[Vernon]

I can't help but wonder....Will's first long pass vs. Tech....not sure who it was intended for....Jennings? Anyway, it was overthrown. Can't help but wonder if Simms had played, and had been the target of that pass....might he have made the catch, with his speed? I guess we could speculate on these things all day.

The pass your thinking about was to Jennings and it had TD written all over it. A play like that could easily changed the game (especially setting the tone) but I'm sure VT could point to similar plays that could have gone in their favor.

 

[LUVPOWERFB]

The pass your thinking about was to Jennings and it had TD written all over it. A play like that could easily changed the game (especially setting the tone) but I'm sure VT could point to similar plays that could have gone in their favor.

Of course you are right. I just wish it was them rather than us thinking about those similar plays being on the losing end rather than us.

 

[Vernon]

Of course you are right. I just wish it was them rather than us thinking about those similar plays being on the losing end rather than us.

The moment it happened, it didn't happen, I wondered what if. You can't let big plays get away from you like that one. In the second half Grier probably doesn't miss that one.

 

[Shirley Knott]

I can't help but wonder....Will's first long pass vs. Tech....not sure who it was intended for....Jennings? Anyway, it was overthrown. Can't help but wonder if Simms had played, and had been the target of that pass....might he have made the catch, with his speed? I guess we could speculate on these things all day.

Another If's and but's post.You can speculate all you want but fact being his inability to stay eligible negated his opportunity to help his team to victory.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Joining Hertzel doesn't really help your argument.

Last I checked, Simms doesn't play defense, who gave up more points and should have given even more if VT had a kicker. WVU should have lost by 2 scores

Simms also doesn't play QB, which cost us in the first half with bad throws and basic "rust"

But kick return, right? Except VT's kicker hasn't had a kick get returned yet this season I believe because they can actually recruit kids with leg strength and don't depend on local walkons like WVU

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

There is no doubt he could've/would've helped. However, the Virginia Tech punter gave us very little opportunities to return the ball. His biggest asset might have been to offset the cramping issues Jennings suffered by resting him.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

In a close game like the VT game, you can usually reflect back on several singular things/plays that could have changed the outcome (instead of using a definitive term like WOULD). The pass interference call against us on 3rd and 10 on the uncatchable ball thrown 5 yards out of bounds would have saved two more minutes on the clock and could have saved about 20 yards of field position. The phantom hold call against us in the third quarter moved us from 3rd and 1 to 3rd and 11 and then 3rd and 26 and I believe we were on their 30 yard line (thereabouts). That was a big momentum shift.

As far as the kickoff returns go, the VT kicker kicked just about all, if not all, of the kickoffs through the back of the end zone. I remember one kick landing in the first row of seats. It would not have mattered who we had returning kickoffs if the kick goes through the back of the end zone.

 

[Keyser76]

Ok, so ******* what?

 

[nvEERs]

you can't put that loss on one person, that was a team loss (including the coaches) if there ever was one.

 

[WVUALLEN]

The what if game is a dangerous path. Nobody really knows if Simms would make a difference or not.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Joining Hertzel doesn't really help your argument.

Last I checked, Simms doesn't play defense, who gave up more points and should have given even more if VT had a kicker. WVU should have lost by 2 scores

Simms also doesn't play QB, which cost us in the first half with bad throws and basic "rust"

But kick return, right? Except VT's kicker hasn't had a kick get returned yet this season I believe because they can actually recruit kids with leg strength and don't depend on local walkons like WVU

SIMMS WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN VT THE BALL ON THE 3 ON THAT PUNT. HE PROVED THAT WHEN HE CAUGHT A KICK EVEN THOUGH IT MEANT TAKING A MAJOR HIT, WHICH WAS PENALIZED. SIMMS WOULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE. AS FOR THE DEFENSE, SPECIAL TEAMS GAVE VT SHORT FIELD AND WVU LONG FIELD, THE MAJOR REASON WVU LOST. SO, YES, SPECIAL TEAMS WITHOUT SIMMS IS THE NO. 1 REASON THAT WVU LOST. IN MY EXPERT, PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHICH YOU GET FREE AND WHICH OTHERS PAID BIG BUCKS TO GET IN MY NEWSPAPER CAREER. SIMMS' 52-YARD TD CATCH IS PROOF THAT HE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE BALL THAT JENNINGS DROPPED. WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN WAGING WAR ON ME WHEN ALL IT DOES IT MAKE YOU LOOK BAD?

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

SIMMS WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN VT THE BALL ON THE 3 ON THAT PUNT. HE PROVED THAT WHEN HE CAUGHT A KICK EVEN THOUGH IT MEANT TAKING A MAJOR HIT, WHICH WAS PENALIZED. SIMMS WOULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE. AS FOR THE DEFENSE, SPECIAL TEAMS GAVE VT SHORT FIELD AND WVU LONG FIELD, THE MAJOR REASON WVU LOST. SO, YES, SPECIAL TEAMS WITHOUT SIMMS IS THE NO. 1 REASON THAT WVU LOST. IN MY EXPERT, PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHICH YOU GET FREE AND WHICH OTHERS PAID BIG BUCKS TO GET IN MY NEWSPAPER CAREER. SIMMS' 52-YARD TD CATCH IS PROOF THAT HE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE BALL THAT JENNINGS DROPPED. WHY DO YOU PERSIST IN WAGING WAR ON ME WHEN ALL IT DOES IT MAKE YOU LOOK BAD?

lmao, so now working at a newspaper makes you an "expert" and fortune teller?

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

lmao, so now working at a newspaper makes you an "expert" and fortune teller?

HOW MUCH HAVE YOU BEEN PAID IN YOUR LIFETIME FOR YOUR SPORTSWRITING EXPERTISE? GET OFF MY LAWN!

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

HOW MUCH HAVE YOU BEEN PAID IN YOUR LIFETIME FOR YOUR SPORTSWRITING EXPERTISE? GET OFF MY LAWN!

Actually, many years ago, I did work for a newspaper. The low pay led me in a new direction and career. I'm sure, you were talented in your career, but your English composition does not make you an expert.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Old man is cracking......

Saying you think Simms would have fielded a punt better doesn't make it so.... despite what you want to be so.... so so badly.

"Simms fielded a punt against ECU so obviously, he'd have fielded a punt better than our true freshman against VT! "

lol, transitive property arguments are always comical.

Also, you highlight the drive that started at our own 3 yard line................... but that drive didn't lose the game for WVU........... not in the least. The following drive was canceled out by one of MULTIPLE penalties from our center that night and a very sub-par punt from local boy Billy Kinney (35 yards).....

Then our defense had VT at 3rd down and 8............ and blew it, allowing a 28 yard play for a first down...

But then we had them again on the same drive at a 3rd and 9........ and guess what? Defense folded again to a pass by VT for another first down, this time 1st and goal....

but Simms, right?

 

[Veldo]

Very hard to say gauge how much Sims could have swung things in WVU's direction. It was a great game regardless... and we still had a chance to win it in the end.

 

[TejasFan]

I wonder what would happen if what happened hadn't have happened when it happened to happen. Would it still have happened or not happened? Just answer the question. Warez

 

[xgunnx]

It's absurd and ignorant to blame a suspended player for a loss.

Our defense struggled, the special teams play was lackluster. Let's give VT their due, the Hokies defense was very good and their special teams play was very solid. Some other things to consider in regards to why The Mountaineers lost. Starting field position favored VT the majority of the game. Mountaineers had more then a few costly penalties that effectively killed offensive drives.

 

[Soaring Eagle 74]

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

Bob Hertzel came up with the same conclusion that I expressed here earlier:

Marcus Simms' two misadventures that led to his suspension cost WVU the Virginia Tech game.

WVU lost because of special teams against the Hokies, clear and simple, even though the game went down to the wire.

Against East Carolina, Simms showed how valuable he would have been in that category by returning 2 kickoffs for 61 yards, a punt for 23 yards and added a pass catch for 52 yards. That's 136 yards WVU could have used against the Hokies. It would have made the difference between victory and defeat.

It should be a stark enough lesson to keep Simms on the straight and narrow for the rest of the season. And maybe lead WVU to an outstanding season. His speed is astounding.

Hertzel's article:

https://www.theet.com/sports/wvu/si...cle_093b56c5-ac13-5eeb-a53c-74befbc46cdb.html

Seeing this headline posted is sad and disgusting. CallIng-out a Mountaineer player is not acceptable to me, so you go on ignore.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Seeing this headline posted is sad and disgusting. CallIng-out a Mountaineer player is not acceptable to me, so you go on ignore.

I didn't "call him out." I don't do that. I praised his abilities and said that, if Simms played against Virginia Tech, WVU probably would have won. Dana called him out for what he did, and suspended him. I had NO problem with that because it sent a message to all the player that no one is above the expected code of behavior for a Mountaineer.

Can anyone, after watching Simms field and return kickoffs and a punt, and catch a 52-yarder for a TD, really say that Simms would NOT have made a difference against VT?

Since you put me on Ignore, which is your right, maybe you friends can read this to you. I have never booed a WVU player, coach, mascot, cheerleader or even opposing player.

Since you put me on Ignore, maybe your friends can read this to you.

I was praising Simms, not "calling him out." I just don't do that.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Marcus Simms would not have made a difference in the return game for WVU against VT..... the kickoff went through the back of the endzone and VT's punt coverage is great, and our return game did NOT impact the outcome of the game..... our defense did and dropped passes and bad throws did.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Can anyone, after watching Simms field and return kickoffs and a punt, and catch a 52-yarder for a TD, really say that Simms would NOT have made a difference against VT?

He definitely would have made a difference, but only if Virginia Tech used ECU's units for kicking and punting.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

I doubt VT bites on the fake bubble screen........... like ECU did............ twice

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Marcus Simms would not have made a difference in the return game for WVU against VT..... the kickoff went through the back of the endzone and VT's punt coverage is great, and our return game did NOT impact the outcome of the game..... our defense did and dropped passes and bad throws did.

Whoa! A failure to fair catch a punt that put WVU on the 3-yard line "did not impact the game" even though it gave VT a 47-yard field and an easy TD. Yes, the kickoffs went to Mars every time, but the punts didn't. And that 3-yard downing put Grier and friends in a tight hole that cost 7 points. Remember how much WVU lost by? 7 points. NOT have an impact? Come on! I know you like to slam and contradict me because I'm old, but that play had a major impact on the game. And it would NOT have happened if Simms were returning punts, as he showed by returning 3 kicks for 100 yards and catching one even though he was about to be slammed by a defender (who got penalized for doing it). I've made mistakes, as you have pointed out, but you're really reaching to try to "get" me on this one. Simms would have made the difference between victory and defeat against Virginia Tech. Any knowledgeable football fan knows that. And I AM the professional since I was a sportswriter for 15 years, in the beginning at Williamson and Charleston. This is not some kid in the basement you're dealing with. It's an expert in sports. Pick your fights wiser than that.


M angy special teams and absence of Simms caused close loss to Virginia Tech, 31-24

O bliterated East Carolina, 56-20

U nhinge Delaware State

N apalm Kansas

T errorize TCU

A nnihilate Texas Tech

I ncinerate Baylor

N ullify Oklahoma State

E masculate Iowa State

E rectile dysfunction Kansas State

R eam Texas

S avage Oklahoma

 

[KeatonsCorner]

"Whoa! A failure to fair catch a punt that put WVU on the 3-yard line "did not impact the game" even though it gave VT a 47-yard field and an easy TD."

I already defeated this BS argument in THIS VERY thread...... which you promptly ignored, as you do.

That drive, with starting at the 3 and then punting a pathetic 35 yards, started at the WVU 47 yard line..

but before that................ a 3rd down holding call on the WVU center (one of multiple) negated a nice 3rd down gain by WVU.......

And VT's ensuing drive saw WVU's defense cause a 3rd and 8........... that got blown for a 28 yard gain and a VT first down........ and a 3rd and 9.......... that got blown for another first down

Our defense had the chance... twice... to prevent a score and THEY blew it, not our punt return team.

That score did NOT have a big impact either, as it cause the halftime score to be 10 to 7, VT............ which WVU followed up in the 2nd half with tying the game in the 3rd quarter and even taking the lead at times....... so no. 1 first half score did NOT play any major part in the final outcome in that game.


But here's the fact that defeats your argument. You have no proven factor that would show Marcus Simms, who had never fielded a punt at the D1 level before, would have even fielded that punt against VT...... oh? He fielded them against a terrible ECU team? Neat. Transitive property arguments hold zero weight in sports debate. Zero.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

Our defense allowed 21 points in the 2nd half.... that cost WVU the game (not including the missed chip shot FGs that VT should have had too)

Missing a catchable pass in the End Zone with 30 seconds left to tie the game cost WVU the game.....

A backup WR with LITERALLY less than 100 receiving yards to his name at the time of kickoff and who literally never fielded a punt in a college football game before DID NOT cost WVU anything.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

Our defense allowed 21 points in the 2nd half.... that cost WVU the game (not including the missed chip shot FGs that VT should have had too)

Missing a catchable pass in the End Zone with 30 seconds left to tie the game cost WVU the game.....

A backup WR with LITERALLY less than 100 receiving yards to his name at the time of kickoff and who literally never fielded a punt in a college football game before DID NOT cost WVU anything.

Really? Not catching a punt that put the WVU offense on the 3-yard line and led to a 47-yard VT touchdown drive "did not cost WVU anything"? You're better than that. It cost 7 points. WVU lost by 7. With Simms catching kicks, WVU gets 100 yards, plus a 52-yard TD catch. MAJOR difference. Even if you don't like me, surely you can see that.

Simms will be a major asset for WVU for the rest of the season. His deserved suspension cost WVU the VT game. Period.


M angy special teams and absence of Simms caused close loss to Virginia Tech, 31-24

O bliterated East Carolina, 56-20

U nhinge Delaware State

N apalm Kansas

T errorize TCU

A nnihilate Texas Tech

I ncinerate Baylor

N ullify Oklahoma State

E masculate Iowa State

E rectile dysfunction Kansas State

R eam Texas

S avage Oklahoma

 

[WVU80ate_rivals]

Whoa! A failure to fair catch a punt that put WVU on the 3-yard line "did not impact the game" even though it gave VT a 47-yard field and an easy TD. Yes, the kickoffs went to Mars every time, but the punts didn't. And that 3-yard downing put Grier and friends in a tight hole that cost 7 points. Remember how much WVU lost by? 7 points. NOT have an impact? Come on! I know you like to slam and contradict me because I'm old, but that play had a major impact on the game. And it would NOT have happened if Simms were returning punts, as he showed by returning 3 kicks for 100 yards and catching one even though he was about to be slammed by a defender (who got penalized for doing it). I've made mistakes, as you have pointed out, but you're really reaching to try to "get" me on this one. Simms would have made the difference between victory and defeat against Virginia Tech. Any knowledgeable football fan knows that. And I AM the professional since I was a sportswriter for 15 years, in the beginning at Williamson and Charleston. This is not some kid in the basement you're dealing with. It's an expert in sports. Pick your fights wiser than that.


M angy special teams and absence of Simms caused close loss to Virginia Tech, 31-24

O bliterated East Carolina, 56-20

U nhinge Delaware State

N apalm Kansas

T errorize TCU

A nnihilate Texas Tech

I ncinerate Baylor

N ullify Oklahoma State

E masculate Iowa State

E rectile dysfunction Kansas State

R eam Texas

S avage Oklahoma

A little full of yourself? Your experience as a sports editor years ago does not mean your opinions are fact. CNN had a building full of political "experts" telling us Hillary Clinton was going to win the presidency in a landslide. ESPN had a building full of experts tell us Rich Rodriguez was heading to Alabama. Beano Cook told us "WVU is gonna have to give up football and fold the program" after the 2004 ACC raid of the Big East. Mickey Furfari told us the "WVU AD was going to go bankrupt in travel expenses in the Big 12." Get the picture? Maybe Simms would've been the difference. Maybe not. We don't know. Stop being condescending

 

[KeatonsCorner]

"With Simms catching kicks, WVU gets 100 yards, plus a 52-yard TD catch. MAJOR difference. Even if you don't like me, surely you can see that. "

it's adorable you're trying to apply Simms' statline (which is incorrect again) from the ECU game to the VT game........... since.......... ya know............... they're the same exact team and scenario and all.

I mean....... by your dumbass logic, you gotta be REAL disappointed in David Sills then too for not catching over 150 yards worth of passes and 3 scores against VT, right? I mean, if stats are just plug-n-play and all....

should we just attribute this to another senior moment?

 

[KeatonsCorner]

"Really? Not catching a punt that put the WVU offense on the 3-yard line and led to a 47-yard VT touchdown drive "did not cost WVU anything"? You're better than that. It cost 7 points."

for the 3rd time in this thread..... not fielding that punt cost WVU nothing. WVU had the ball and ran a play to get a 1st down.................... that was called back due to a holding penalty by Flag-magnet Matt Jones, our center....

then the ****** punt from Kinney cost WVU the position-battle

Then a 3 and 9 failure by our defense cost WVU their FIRST chance at stopping VT on the final drive of the 1st half........... 28 yards and a new first down. THEN ANOTHER 3rd and 8 conversation by VT's offense........... Failure #2 by Gibby's defense when it mattered....... gave VT 1st and goal.

So please know.......... when you say "I'm a sports expert! That punt return gave VT an easy 7!"............... that not only are you wrong, but you're embarrassing what possibly once was a respectable reporting career that you maintained.

 

[KeatonsCorner]

The funny thing about the punt that wasn't fielded is that for the last decade of WVU football, this board has seen RANT after RANT of our punt returners calling fair catch and fielding punts inside and around the 10 yard line..................

And then a WVU freshman does exactly what fans have been screaming for all this time, letting it bounce and roll into the endzone, and now just because VT made a great play, that kid is likewise just as wrong? lol

CFE, your inability to process the loss as just a well-played game where VT made more plays that WVU comes off as very juvenile..... right down to you making excuses in that stupid acrostic you clog the board with every year...

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

The funny thing about the punt that wasn't fielded is that for the last decade of WVU football, this board has seen RANT after RANT of our punt returners calling fair catch and fielding punts inside and around the 10 yard line..................

And then a WVU freshman does exactly what fans have been screaming for all this time, letting it bounce and roll into the endzone, and now just because VT made a great play, that kid is likewise just as wrong? lol

CFE, your inability to process the loss as just a well-played game where VT made more plays that WVU comes off as very juvenile..... right down to you making excuses in that stupid acrostic you clog the board with every year...

Let's agree that we disagree, civilly, and move on. Other posters would rather read about what's happening with my alma mater than read pissing matches between posters. You made good points. So did I. Move on to another topic. Not Delaware State because that's a gross mismatch. But the Big 12 season, which I have (and I hope you do, too) great hopes for.


M angy special teams and absence of Simms caused close loss to
Virginia Tech, 31-24

O bliterated East Carolina, 56-20

U nhinge Delaware State

N apalm Kansas

T errorize TCU

A nnihilate Texas Tech

I ncinerate Baylor

N ullify Oklahoma State

E masculate Iowa State

E rectile dysfunction Kansas State

R eam Texas

S avage Oklahoma

 

[KeatonsCorner]

You have yet to make a good point though.....

And if posters don't want to read this, they can go to another thread.

 

[TejasFan]

Sometimes your up, sometimes your down. Half an inch of water, think your gonna drown. Warez