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moe

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Why a judge blocked the most controversial provisions of Texas’ anti–sanctuary city bill.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._bill_sb_4_is_very_very_unconstitutional.html

Lee Gelernt, the deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Immigrants’ Rights Project...
We believe it is unconstitutional to detain an individual without probable cause of an actual crime. Living in the United States without documentation is not a crime but a civil violation, which raises concerns about the lawfulness of ICE detainers.
 
dave

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moe said:
Unconstitutional, you know what that means, right? Conservative overreach. Take that weak sh*t back.
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Besides the fact that you didnt even read the story you linked, I want to congratulate you for defending criminals.
 
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moe

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dave said:
Besides the fact that you didnt even read the story you linked, I want to congratulate you for defending criminals.
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lol You really hit the ground running, idiotic posts from a.m. to p.m. I'm sorry that the article is upsetting to you.
 
Brushy Bill

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So, when this gets reversed by the Supreme Court does that make it Constitutional then?
 
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moe

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Brushy Bill said:
So, when this gets reversed by the Supreme Court does that make it Constitutional then?
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First step, start over by writing new legislation, etc, You know, just like Trump and the gang that can't shoot straight.
 
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moe said:
First step, start over by writing new legislation, etc, You know, just like Trump and the gang that can't shoot straight.
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Ya'll really have bad cases of prematurity. They have pills nowadays, you know.
 
Brushy Bill

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moe said:
First step, start over by writing new legislation, etc, You know, just like Trump and the gang that can't shoot straight.
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No, the first step is that the SC will most likely decide that the lower court ruling was incorrect and that the existing legislation is sufficient and constitutional AS IT IS.
 
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moe

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Brushy Bill said:
No, the first step is that the SC will most likely decide that the lower court ruling was incorrect and that the existing legislation is sufficient and constitutional AS IT IS.
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lol Just the part that law enforcement can't criticize the action would be a free speech violation. No use in wasting the SC's time with the current poorly written effort. Keep dreaming.
 
dave

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moe said:
lol You really hit the ground running, idiotic posts from a.m. to p.m. I'm sorry that the article is upsetting to you.
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Upsetting me? Poor moe doesnt realize when he is being mocked.

Bless your little heart.
 
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moe

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dave said:
Upsetting me? Poor moe doesnt realize when he is being mocked.

Bless your little heart.
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You seem confused by the thread, good luck on sorting things out. Maybe Brushy will give you a hug.
 
dave

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moe said:
You seem confused by the thread, good luck on sorting things out. Maybe Brushy will give you a hug.
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Who is confused motard? I am sure that ny your age you are used to being mocked.
 
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Dumbasses who live on shuttered up main Street USA frightened of folks they have never seen trying to export their fears onto Cities and tell them how to do their jobs. Who wants to live in Daves freaking world? lol
 
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Keyser76 said:
Dumbasses who live on shuttered up main Street USA frightened of folks they have never seen trying to export their fears onto Cities and tell them how to do their jobs. Who wants to live in Daves freaking world? lol
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Apparently enough voters in key states to propel that mandate into the election on Donald Trump.
 
dave

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Keyser76 said:
Dumbasses who live on shuttered up main Street USA frightened of folks they have never seen trying to export their fears onto Cities and tell them how to do their jobs. Who wants to live in Daves freaking world? lol
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You can dream about living in my world.
 
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moe said:
Why a judge blocked the most controversial provisions of Texas’ anti–sanctuary city bill.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._bill_sb_4_is_very_very_unconstitutional.html

Lee Gelernt, the deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Immigrants’ Rights Project...
We believe it is unconstitutional to detain an individual without probable cause of an actual crime. Living in the United States without documentation is not a crime but a civil violation, which raises concerns about the lawfulness of ICE detainers.
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Yesterday you claimed I wanted to burn the former presidents house down. That was not the truth. Why is it convenient for u not to respond to the truth?
 
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moe

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Airport said:
Yesterday you claimed I wanted to burn the former presidents house down. That was not the truth. Why is it convenient for u not to respond to the truth?
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It was the truth but for me to go find the post would be near impossible. Do you want me to look for it?
 
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"Living in the United States without documentation is not a crime..."

Yes, it is...

that's the definition of being here illegally...

Improper Entry Is a Crime

To be clear, the most common crime associated with illegal immigration is likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor for an alien (i.e., a non-citizen) to:
  • Enter or attempt to enter the United States at any time or place other than designated by immigration officers;
  • Elude examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
  • Attempt to enter or obtain entry to the United States by willfully concealing, falsifying, or misrepresenting material facts.
The punishment under this federal law is no more than six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties for each illegal entry. These acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.

Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.


Unlawful Presence Is Not a Crime

Some may assume that all immigrants who are in the United States without legal status must have committed improper entry. This simply isn't the case. Many foreign nationals legally enter the country on a valid work or travel visa, but fail to exit before their visa expires for a variety of reasons.

But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal. Chief among these civil penalties is deportation or removal, where an unlawful resident may be detained and removed from the country. Unlawful presence can also have negative consequences for a resident who may seek to gain re-entry into the United States, or permanent residency.

Both improper entry and unlawful presence should be avoided by any immigrant to the United States, but an illegal alien cannot be criminally charged or incarcerated simply for being undocumented. To learn more, check out FindLaw's section on Immigration Law.
 
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