The vice is closing in....

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on Hillary?....how's the game pro?
Pretty good. I've been on two great golf trips over the last 2 weeks. Played 9 top 100 courses in Chicago area and Idaho and also played at my son's place in Montana. Heading to the mountains of NC next weekend and then up to play Fishers Island in NY in a month. Probably done for the year after that.
 
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If Manafort is the best they can do this whole exercise has been a massive waste of time.

You are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen post on a message board. You personify what they say, dumb people really are too stupid to realize how stupid they are.
 

dave

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You are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen post on a message board. You personify what they say, dumb people really are too stupid to realize how stupid they are.
Yet somehow I know how to correctly use the word personify.
 
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I saw a report where VTB bank, with 60.9% of its shares owned by the Russian government, was working with trump's people on a deal to loan them money for a trump tower in Moscow, during the campaign. There may be nothing to it but you know it's awfully strange for a US presidential candidate to be working with another government controlled bank on a loan while he is campaigning for president. You can't make this **** up.
 

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I saw a report where VTB bank, with 60.9% of its shares owned by the Russian government, was working with trump's people on a deal to loan them money for a trump tower in Moscow, during the campaign. There may be nothing to it but you know it's awfully strange for a US presidential candidate to be working with another government controlled bank on a loan while he is campaigning for president. You can't make this **** up.
I believe that there was a period of time possibly extending to the present when he had a hard time getting loans from U.S. banks due to bankruptcies that he's had so he's had to seek loans in other (Russia) countries.
 
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I believe that there was a period of time possibly extending to the present when he had a hard time getting loans from U.S. banks due to bankruptcies that he's had so he's had to seek loans in other (Russia) countries.
Truth. Our President has bad credit. But he's a genius though. Just ask him.
 

dave

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I saw a report where VTB bank, with 60.9% of its shares owned by the Russian government, was working with trump's people on a deal to loan them money for a trump tower in Moscow, during the campaign. There may be nothing to it but you know it's awfully strange for a US presidential candidate to be working with another government controlled bank on a loan while he is campaigning for president. You can't make this **** up.
Why is it odd that a company would work with a bank in Moscow for a project in Moscow?
 

dave

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Oh I don't know.....maybe because they are controlled by the Russian government?

You really don't care to repeatedly show your amazing level of stupidity.
As opposed to all of the russian banks that are not owned by the russian govt? I dont know though...someone keeps saying I am dumb.
 

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I saw a report where VTB bank, with 60.9% of its shares owned by the Russian government, was working with trump's people on a deal to loan them money for a trump tower in Moscow, during the campaign. There may be nothing to it but you know it's awfully strange for a US presidential candidate to be working with another government controlled bank on a loan while he is campaigning for president. You can't make this **** up.
"URANIUM ONE"...carry on nothing to see here. .Rapey Bills EXORBITANT "SPEAKING FEES" IN RUSSIA...carry on nothing to see here...Ukrainian embassy officials meeting with Clintons. ..carry on nothing to see here. :flush:[roll][pfftt]
 
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"URANIUM ONE"...carry on nothing to see here. .Rapey Bills EXORBITANT "SPEAKING FEES" IN RUSSIA...carry on nothing to see here...Ukrainian embassy officials meeting with Clintons. ..carry on nothing to see here. :flush:[roll][pfftt]
Ha! The GOP controlled Congress investigated the clintons for years. Nothing but a splooged dress and inneundo.
 

moe

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"URANIUM ONE"...carry on nothing to see here. .Rapey Bills EXORBITANT "SPEAKING FEES" IN RUSSIA...carry on nothing to see here...Ukrainian embassy officials meeting with Clintons. ..carry on nothing to see here. :flush:[roll][pfftt]
lol whatabout whatabout whatabout smh
 

lenny4wvu

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I saw a report where VTB bank, with 60.9% of its shares owned by the Russian government, was working with trump's people on a deal to loan them money for a trump tower in Moscow, during the campaign. There may be nothing to it but you know it's awfully strange for a US presidential candidate to be working with another government controlled bank on a loan while he is campaigning for president. You can't make this **** up.
"The vice is closing in"...on your head...PLEASE
 
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Tell me a time when a SC hasn't found something.

Corruption in America runs deep within government and corporate America. I have said all along that I don't think there was collusion in the election, but I have no doubt that Trump and his associates have had shady or illegal transactions with organized crime in Russia or the Russian government. I would bet there is also Trump Corp funding that comes from shady sources.
 

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Corruption in America runs deep within government and corporate America. I have said all along that I don't think there was collusion in the election, but I have no doubt that Trump and his associates have had shady or illegal transactions with organized crime in Russia or the Russian government. I would bet there is also Trump Corp funding that comes from shady sources.
Prove it.......Show us your evidence that Trump had any "illegal" transactions with Russian organized crime. You are making a lot of claims.
 
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Prove it.......Show us your evidence that Trump had any "illegal" transactions with Russian organized crime. You are making a lot of claims.
Prove it.......Show us your evidence that Trump had any "illegal" transactions with Russian organized crime. You are making a lot of claims.

Yep I did. How can I prove anything? I believe think his reluctance to release financial information and his past, documented dealings with shady Russians evidence my point.
 

bornaneer

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Yep I did. How can I prove anything? I believe think his reluctance to release financial information and his past, documented dealings with shady Russians evidence my point.
I'm sure you are aware that the IRS has looked at his returns over the years. And.... I also am sure you aren't soooooo naive to think that previous the administration did not have access to all his tax documents.
 
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I'm sure you are aware that the IRS has looked at his returns over the years. And.... I also am sure you aren't soooooo naive to think that previous administration did not have access to all his tax documents.

Are you an IRS agent? Then how do you know what they have and don't have? Do you even know if the IRS tracks investors? Tracks to whom interest is paid? Tracks detailed information on foreign subs of the Trump enterprise? What do you know....nothing more than me I reckon.
 

dave

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Are you an IRS agent? Then how do you know what they have and don't have? Do you even know if the IRS tracks investors? Tracks to whom interest is paid? Tracks detailed information on foreign subs of the Trump enterprise? What do you know....nothing more than me I reckon.
I know that anything he has put on his returns that he is now hiding has been available to the IRS and thus the govt since it was filed so how is he hiding anything?
 

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It's going to be funny when this turns into a big **** burger and only a lackey or two gets some charge completely unrelated to Trump and the election.
 

dave

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It's going to be funny when this turns into a big **** burger and only a lackey or two gets some charge completely unrelated to Trump and the election.
The funny part will be the gloating about getting manafort for crimes he committed years prior to the election and not realizing the waste of money for the special counsel.