ACC still tops

[still5-0vstarheels]

Despite the ACC having 50% more teams than the B12, they have managed a total of 1 more bid than the B12 over the last 4 years.


NCAA Bids By Conference


2014 2015 2016 2017 Total
ACC 6 6 7 9 28

BIG 12 7 7 7 6 27

Big Ten 6 7 7 7 27

Big East 4 6 5 7 22

Pac-12 6 4 7 4 21

SEC 3 5 3 5 16

Atlantic 10 6 3 3 3 15

 

[Mountaineer Steve]

The self proclaimed greatest conference of all time has one glaring weakness this season. They are 1-7 against the B12. One of the reasons the ACC is considered the best is their offensive ability. Only 2 or 3 teams in the league play defense. Take last night, all of the opinion guys on TV picked Wake Forest to win due to their offense. The problem was their defense is like a layup line. None existent.

Oh Crap that had to hurt Greg.

The other reason the ACC looks better on paper (as pointed out previously), the BIG12 a full round robin and does not have the cupcakes the ACC or other conferences have.

 

[WVUALLEN]

In just a few days, the actual tournament will show which conferences are the strongest. I'll take the actual results over what the computers and sports writers have to say.

Actually it will show witch teams from perspective conference are better at that moment.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Actually it will show witch teams from perspective conference are better at that moment.

Thanks for the insight. I'll be on the lookout for them.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

The self proclaimed greatest conference of all time has one glaring weakness this season. They are 1-7 against the B12. One of the reasons the ACC is considered the best is their offensive ability. Only 2 or 3 teams in the league play defense. Take last night, all of the opinion guys on TV picked Wake Forest to win due to their offense. The problem was their defense is like a layup line. None existent.

Fair post! No denying the head to head. Everything will flush out over the next four days. The sweet16 is the best indicator of best conference. BTW Wake didn't even deserve being in Tourney. Should have been Cuse or no 9th ACC team. Wake sucks.

 

[cosmo kramEER]

Cuse sucks, too. So does BC, NC State, GT, Clemson and Pitt. A lot of bottom feeders in that conference. That's 7 teams that sucks in one conference.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Fair post! No denying the head to head. Everything will flush out over the next four days. The sweet16 is the best indicator of best conference. BTW Wake didn't even deserve being in Tourney. Should have been Cuse or no 9th ACC team. Wake sucks.

Duke, Virginia, UL, Miami and Wake Forest all lost to B12 teams. B12 was not just feasting on the bottom feeders. Cuse could not even play with TCU. They had no business in the dance.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Thanks for the insight. I'll be on the lookout for them.

 

[Cuyahoga Falls Eers_rivals]

There ya go again with the % silly talk. The Big 12 has 5 legit teams and the ACC has 7 or 8. In this case more is better. Both Conferences are excellent and ahead of the rest. Why is this so hard to understand. Through Selection Sunday the ACC was regarded as the best best conference by virtually anyone with credibility including the Selection Committee.

My goodness he uses the Trump book. Look at the video and say it isn't happening. Alternative facts. Percentages count. Of course a conference with 14 teams is going to have more in March Madness than a conference with 10 teams. The Big 12 has been touted the #1 basketball conference in America THIS SEASON by trustworthy experts all over the country. Yes the ACC is better over the years. But this year is the exception. Using YOUR standard the ACC teams have lost 52 OOC games this season, the Big 12 only 35. Remember, you don't believe in percentages so you can't have it both ways.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Despite the ACC having 50% more teams than the B12, they have managed a total of 1 more bid than the B12 over the last 4 years.


NCAA Bids By Conference


2014 2015 2016 2017 Total
ACC 6 6 7 9 28

BIG 12 7 7 7 6 27

Big Ten 6 7 7 7 27

Big East 4 6 5 7 22

Pac-12 6 4 7 4 21

SEC 3 5 3 5 16

Atlantic 10 6 3 3 3 15

Cool story but last year NCAAs Big12 was an embarrassment no matter how much time you spend making fake news. On their other hand last year NCAAs was a three week infomercial proving the ACC was the most dominate hoop conference. That's just one year so what's the big deal. You guys act like the Big12 has dominated college basketball. I heard asinine crap on here like it was as good as old Big East. Sickening joke! Big12 has done well against ACC head to head. But got schooled by Big Ten. Which Big Ten did not do well against ACC. Get it? Those are best hoops in those three conferences. In last years NCAAs Big12 and Big East got whacked. The Big Ten and ACC dominated. It may be different this year. We will know in 4 days who steps up this year. Virtually all of the so called experts clearly view the ACC as the top conference this year. We will know in 4 days if they are right. In the meantime I suggest you not waste your time completing 6th grade projects like this heels. You're weird brah.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

My goodness he uses the Trump book. Look at the video and say it isn't happening. Alternative facts. Percentages count. Of course a conference with 14 teams is going to have more in March Madness than a conference with 10 teams. The Big 12 has been touted the #1 basketball conference in America THIS SEASON by trustworthy experts all over the country. Yes the ACC is better over the years. But this year is the exception. Using YOUR standard the ACC teams have lost 52 OOC games this season, the Big 12 only 35. Remember, you don't believe in percentages so you can't have it both ways.

SEC has 14 teams. How many teams in PAC 12? Your argument destroyed. That was quick!!! I value one thing and only one thing when looking at Conference strength. The NCAAs. The only question that counts after that is who has the most teams ranked in the top 25. Then top 40. After that who cares. Every conference has average teams. What conference has the most quality teams? That's that. Only tools create methods to sidestep that obvious question. Ask ten experts what conference is best!!! Boom! Discussion over. Heck Dick Vitale was disgusted that Cuse didn't get in NCAAs.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

My goodness he uses the Trump book. Look at the video and say it isn't happening. Alternative facts. Percentages count. Of course a conference with 14 teams is going to have more in March Madness than a conference with 10 teams. The Big 12 has been touted the #1 basketball conference in America THIS SEASON by trustworthy experts all over the country. Yes the ACC is better over the years. But this year is the exception. Using YOUR standard the ACC teams have lost 52 OOC games this season, the Big 12 only 35. Remember, you don't believe in percentages so you can't have it both ways.

Now as far as OOC I don't have data in front of me. But just thinking out loud for instance Jamie Dixon is the king of joke OOC scheduling. KSU had 202 SOS. That obviously wasn't because Big12 sucked. So in a nutshell the OOC argument is for stat geeks. Beating up a bunch of crap schools doesn't mean jack for any P5 school.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Duke, Virginia, UL, Miami and Wake Forest all lost to B12 teams. B12 was not just feasting on the bottom feeders. Cuse could not even play with TCU. They had no business in the dance.

Didn't say that heels. Big12 had great wins. Just talking about Wake because one crap team beat another and it sounded like Baylor came back and beat Louisville again LOL. Cuse is different team now than when injuries and coach suspension kinda got them off to tough start. Plus I'm not saying they're that good. They're the 9 or 10th best team in ACC. I'm old school. Wake, Cuse, USC and KSU had no business in anything but NIT.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Cool story but last year NCAAs Big12 was an embarrassment no matter how much time you spend making fake news. On their other hand last year NCAAs was a three week infomercial proving the ACC was the most dominate hoop conference. That's just one year so what's the big deal. You guys act like the Big12 has dominated college basketball. I heard asinine crap on here like it was as good as old Big East. Sickening joke! Big12 has done well against ACC head to head. But got schooled by Big Ten. Which Big Ten did not do well against ACC. Get it? Those are best hoops in those three conferences. In last years NCAAs Big12 and Big East got whacked. The Big Ten and ACC dominated. It may be different this year. We will know in 4 days who steps up this year. Virtually all of the so called experts clearly view the ACC as the top conference this year. We will know in 4 days if they are right. In the meantime I suggest you not waste your time completing 6th grade projects like this heels. You're weird brah.

Facts are not fake news troll. 3 B12 teams made the sweet 16 last year and 1 the finale 4. Fake news would be that the B12 was embarrassed last year. The ACC had a great tourney last year. Despite that the RPI had the B12 as the best conference. This year so far the RPI has the ACC as the top with other analytics showing the B12 as the top. But there is the embarrassment of the 1-7 record against the B12. Head to head counts troll.

 

[WVUFanForever]

And really.....if Gregor is only basing how good a conference is for tournament runs...isn't that kind of silly.

I mean if the ACC has a team as a four-seed....they beat the 13 seed....say the 12 upsets the 5...then you beat the 12.

Beating a 13 and 12 seed proves a run to the Sweet 16 means your are the better conference?

Seems faulty thinking to me.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Facts are not fake news troll. 3 B12 teams made the sweet 16 last year and 1 the finale 4. Fake news would be that the B12 was embarrassed last year. The ACC had a great tourney last year. Despite that the RPI had the B12 as the best conference. This year so far the RPI has the ACC as the top with other analytics showing the B12 as the top. But there is the embarrassment of the 1-7 record against the B12. Head to head counts troll.

Hey big guy we were comparing the Big12 and ACC right? Thanks for proving my point dumbo. 3 teams in sweet16 clearly puts Big12 at #2. Check the ACC numbers. You're owned. Good day sir.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Hey big guy we were comparing the Big12 and ACC right? Thanks for proving my point dumbo. 3 teams in sweet16 clearly puts Big12 at #2. Check the ACC numbers. You're owned. Good day sir.

Congrats you win the internets. You said the B12 was embarrassed. I simple pointed out that facts showing they were not embarrassed. (you loss again) You claim the ACC is best, citing the RPI. Despite having a great tourney last year the B12 ended with the highest RPI in 2016. Of course there is always that pesky thing called head to head. This year it stands at an embarrassing 1-7. Not a nice fact for the self proclaimed best conference ever. 1-7 troll. Now get back under the bridge where you belong.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

The Big 12 wasn't embarrassed in the NCAA Tournament last season, Greg. However, the Big 12 didn't live up to the hype generated by Big 12 homers the two to three seasons before then, as the conference didn't have a single team in the Final Four, notwithstanding the same, worn-out narrative that the Big 12 is the best conference, which is something alleged by some WVU fans year after year. If the Big 12 were so great, then Oklahoma's 2016 squad wouldn't be its only Final Four participant in the past few years.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Congrats you win the internets. You said the B12 was embarrassed. I simple pointed out that facts showing they were not embarrassed. (you loss again) You claim the ACC is best, citing the RPI. Despite having a great tourney last year the B12 ended with the highest RPI in 2016. Of course there is always that pesky thing called head to head. This year it stands at an embarrassing 1-7. Not a nice fact for the self proclaimed best conference ever. 1-7 troll. Now get back under the bridge where you belong.

Well when the standard is so high because you homer clowns set it so high and that the the Big12 is superior to all comers 3 Sweet16 teams and 1 Elite 8 is an embarrassment. Let's check back in Monday for a healthy exchange for this year.

I didn't use rpi as standard so stop the fake news routine. I clearly used the NCAAs last year and have been consistent in saying let's wait til Monday to see how conferences did. Why are homers so dumb?

 

[dogeered_again]

If WVU was in the ACC... they would be a better conference than they are now!!

 

[cosmo kramEER]

""You homer clowns" says the lunatic! What an arrogant deuche bag!

 

[Pitt4Life34]

The Big 12 wasn't embarrassed in the NCAA Tournament last season, Greg. However, the Big 12 didn't live up to the hype generated by Big 12 homers the two to three seasons before then, as the conference didn't have a single team in the Final Four, notwithstanding the same, worn-out narrative that the Big 12 is the best conference, which is something alleged by some WVU fans year after year. If the Big 12 were so great, then Oklahoma's 2016 squad wouldn't be its only Final Four participant in the past few years.

^^^^^^^^Boom!^^^^^^^Boom!^^^^^^


Good ACC/Big Ten game tonight! Pumped! OSU and Purdue are my Big Ten go-to!!! Dad played football for Purdue and his dad was a 40 yr OSU season ticket holder. My dad didn't want to play for Woody Hayes. Being from Ohio he grew up hating Michigan. My house is a Pitt, WVU and OSU house. Good luck to Big Ten brother!!!

 

[Pitt4Life34]

If WVU was in the ACC... they would be a better conference than they are now!!

No question about it!!! I've actually prayed for he Big12 to implode from poaching so wvu would be in ACC.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

""You homer clowns" says the lunatic! What an arrogant deuche bag!

That's over the top and not true.

WVU = awesome!
Big 12 = P5 little brother in football and
somewhat overrated in hoops.
Disclaimer: ACC, Big Ten and
Big12 three best every
year. Order varies.

Some of you guys need to get a grip. Oh deal with this.......I go to OSU and WVU games every single year. I would bet I've been to more WVU games over he last decade than 90% of you morons. Here's the kicker!!!! Because I'm not a homer I've never booed one time at a football game or a basketball game at WVU. 100% of you morons boo at every other game haha.

 

[dogeered_again]

No question about it!!! I've actually prayed for he Big12 to implode from poaching so wvu would be in ACC.

Thank you. Maybe you aren't such a bad person afterall!

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Well when the standard is so high because you homer clowns set it so high and that the the Big12 is superior to all comers 3 Sweet16 teams and 1 Elite 8 is an embarrassment. Let's check back in Monday for a healthy exchange for this year.

I didn't use rpi as standard so stop the fake news routine. I clearly used the NCAAs last year and have been consistent in saying let's wait til Monday to see how conferences did. Why are homers so dumb?

That is when we know you are losing. Using the fake news tag. 1-7 troll

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Thank you. Maybe you aren't such a bad person afterall!

I'm not. Three or four goofs beat me up for some reason because I don't fall in the big 12 camp. Great first round game for wvu. These tough early round games get a team focused right away. The wvu/nd game should be really good.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

That is when we know you are losing. Using the fake news tag. 1-7 troll

Ouch! Ok!

Watch the game homer

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Ouch! Ok!

Watch the game homer

Under the bridge troll 1-7

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Under the bridge troll 1-7

Did you catch any of the game? We won!!!

 

[pburg011]

Can we now put to bed the bogus argument that the Big 12 is anything more than the 2nd best conference? The facts point to number 3 or 4 for the Big12. Take Kansas out and the conference is nothing to pound a chest about.

Facts:
(1). Teams in the NCAAs. ACC = 9, Big Ten = 7, Big East = 7 and Big 12 = 6
(2). Teams seeded as top 5 seeds. ACC = 6, Big 12 = 4, Big Ten = 2 and Big East = 2
(3). Teams seeded as top 3 seeds. ACC = 4, Big 12 = 2, Big Ten = 1 and Big East = 1
(4). Teams ranked in top 45 by NCAA Committee. ACC = 9, Big Ten = 7, Big East = 7 Big12 = 5


So there it is boys and girls. This which conference is better fight ended in an ACC TKO. So feel free to knock yourself out with Fake News stats to explain somehow that the Big12 is better than the ACC. But know the entire country knows the ACC is the best hoop conference and the Committee agreed. The only discussion really is where does the Big12 rank against the Big Ten and Big East. I think there are arguments for all 3 conferences to stake a claim for #2 conference. Fact #4 hurts the Big 12 but to me facts #2 and #3 means the most because those prove where the best teams play.

So the conference rankings, to me, goes like this: ACC, Big12, Big Ten then the Big East

Thoughts on if you see Big12 in front of Big Ten and Big East or did Big12 slip to #3 or #4?

What exactly is your point on posting here? I don't really care what the ACC has done in the past, is doing now, or will do in the future. They have absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia University.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

What exactly is your point on posting here? I don't really care what the ACC has done in the past, is doing now, or will do in the future. They have absolutely nothing to do with West Virginia University.

Then the question is what are you doing here. It's a conference thread pal. Move along.

 

[still5-0vstarheels]

Great game. Lead the whole way. Now 1-8.

 

[cosmo kramEER]

ACC...move along!

 

[Buckaineer]

BIG 12 STILL TOPS
8-1 vs. the ACC so far this year!

Great job Mountaineers!!!!

WVU/ Notre Dame---W
Kansas/Duke---W
Baylor/Louisville---W
WVU/Virginia---W
Iowa State/Miami---W
Kansas State/Wake Forest---W
OU/Clemson---W
Kansas State/BC---W
OSU/UNC------L

 

[Pitt4Life34]

ACC...move along!

It's not Monday yet

 

[tOSUGrad90]

And, the Big 12 is still 3-8 vs. the Big 10, but Iowa State has a chance to improve upon this record vs. Purdue tonight. Caleb Swanigan is a dude and worth the price of admission.

 

[ColoradoMountaineer]

And, the Big 12 is still 3-8 vs. the Big 10, but Iowa State has a chance to improve upon this record vs. Purdue tonight. Caleb Swanigan is a dude and worth the price of admission.

The way the big 10 has played I would be very nervous if I were Iowa State.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

It should be an interesting game, with contrasting styles, Colorado. Purdue will bully ISU inside with Swanigan, Haas and even Vince Edwards, but doesn't have anybody as talented as Morris on the perimeter. If the Cyclones get hot from behind the arc, then they can win, notwithstanding Purdue's size advantage.

 

[Pitt4Life34]

Pumped for my Broilmakers