Beilein vs Huggins

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Hi everybody. As a Michigan fan, I am wondering how the board feels about these two coaches. Now that both have run your program for a decent amount of time, who do you want?
 

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Hi everybody. As a Michigan fan, I am wondering how the board feels about these two coaches. Now that both have run your program for a decent amount of time, who do you want?
I backed Belein back when they tried to give it to Dakich first. Living here in Va, I knew that Belien was a very good coach. We both won when you guys took him. We both won when you took Rodriquez. We got rid of a douche bag and you found out you couldn't win on name only!
 

old buzzard

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Hi everybody. As a Michigan fan, I am wondering how the board feels about these two coaches. Now that both have run your program for a decent amount of time, who do you want?

We owe Beilein for stepping in after the Dakich debacle and cleaning up the mess left behind. I loved his teams when he coached here. Having said that, Huggins was also interviewed during that time span and turned the job down. If I had my druthers I wish Huggins would have came home at that time instead of waiting til Beilein left. I wish nothing but the best for Beilein (unless his team plays ours) but Huggins is a better fit for WVU, and WVU fits Huggins better than it did Beilein.
 
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Hi everybody. As a Michigan fan, I am wondering how the board feels about these two coaches. Now that both have run your program for a decent amount of time, who do you want?

Beilein did a great job and was good for the program based on where it was his first day. His WVU teams accomplished things we had not accomplished under Catlett or even the days of West and Hot Rod.

However and without a doubt, Huggins has a much better chance of winning a national championship at WVU than Beilein ever would. On top of which Huggs knows and identifies with WV better than any coach we had in my life time. So with zero hesitation, I would take Huggs over Beilein at WVU any day of the week.
 

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Beliein was looking to leave as soon as he got here. He was an *******.

Huggs hasn't ever looked to leave. I'll take Huggs any day over Beilein.
 

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I am not a basketball guy minus 2-3 weeks a year.

I respect John Beilein a lot. Good coach. Good man. I can say the same things about Bob Huggins.

Huggs would have got the job before Dakich had a former WVU president not put the kibosh on the deal. Beilein came into a train wreck and really brought it back. He left WVU for wifey reasons.

Huggins came in and took it up a notch and came home to WVU leaving the #1 recruiting class at K State. Tells me he wanted to be here. He also cares more about WV than any coach ever at WVU. For that last sentence he will get my vote.

As for Dick Rod, thanks for taking that arrogant phony out of here and allowing him to become the worst coach ever statistically in the history of the winningest school in college football. Bye if Harbaugh doesn't beat Urban this season, he's turning into a Kardashian football coach-lots of attention and never Even a conference title.
 

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I've always liked JB, still wish him to do well when he's not playing WVU. His style of play is exciting to watch especially when the ball is going through the net. I am thankful for JB, he put WVU basketball back on the map and gave us Kevin Pittsnoggle, 1 of the most interesting college basketball players of all-time. Mike Gansey was good. He had some real fun and likable teams.

But I'd take Huggins. I think he is the better coach (has over 800 wins for a reason) and he is a WVU guy. Went to school here, knows the people that lives in the state and has a deep passion for this state. Huggins is a guy that I would want in my foxhole.
 
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Beliein was looking to leave as soon as he got here. He was an *******.

Huggs hasn't ever looked to leave. I'll take Huggs any day over Beilein.
You should give Beliein more credit than that he came in and revived the program when it was at one of its lowest points. Everyone was passing on the job when Beiliein took over even Huggins himself and we needed him more than ever in 2001.
 

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The job Beilein did at WVU was phenomenal. No one does more with less than John Beilein. When Beilein took over WVU the program was in shambles having the worst record in decades and facing possible NCAA sanctions. Yet because of his genius he took mediocre talent and was able to compete against elite programs and win. The victory over Florida was one of the most unbelievable coaching jobs I have witnessed. I believe Beilein is to college basketball what coach Snyder at Kansas State is to college football. Why did he leave? Beilein left WVU because he felt he couldn't recruit here and that's why Bob Huggins is a better fit. Huggins has instant name recognition; has a deep passion for the state of West Virginia and is a native son. Because of his legend he's going to attract better players and that's good for us. We couldn't have done better and neither could Michigan. It worked out for both of us and nothing would please me more than to see WVU vs. Michigan for the national championship. Wouldn't that be great?
 

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All you guys picking Beilein....I guess you all liked being out-rebounded night after night. Also, must like playing a cupcake schedule and winning 20 games just to see us on the bubble and playing in the NIT.

Give me Huggs 1000000%. Plays a difficult schedule. Recruits hard-nosed guys. Demands excellence. Holds players accountable. And loves being HOME!
 

palencia

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Hi everybody. As a Michigan fan, I am wondering how the board feels about these two coaches. Now that both have run your program for a decent amount of time, who do you want?
Love Coach Huggs and glad we have him. I also thank
Coach Belien for coming when he did and gave us
relevance again and entertaining bb.
 
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This is great feedback and I thank you all. It seems to me that Beilein brought you to a certain level with limited defense but a great offense while Huggins is more balanced and produced better results.
 

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You should give Beliein more credit than that he came in and revived the program when it was at one of its lowest points. Everyone was passing on the job when Beiliein took over even Huggins himself and we needed him more than ever in 2001.


Pastilong needed help and called Beoheim. Jim said to hire Beilein. Beilein wasn't here long enough to take a **** and he was trying to get another job. Beilein was an *******. His teams were fun to watch and but I get sick of people making him ouot to be this great guy when he wasn't.
 
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We owe Beilein for stepping in after the Dakich debacle and cleaning up the mess left behind. I loved his teams when he coached here. Having said that, Huggins was also interviewed during that time span and turned the job down. If I had my druthers I wish Huggins would have came home at that time instead of waiting til Beilein left. I wish nothing but the best for Beilein (unless his team plays ours) but Huggins is a better fit for WVU, and WVU fits Huggins better than it did Beilein.

Bob did not turn the job down back then. He went to bed that night thinking he had the job and Beilein was hired the next day. Frankly, I am surprised he trusted WVU enough to give it a second go when the job opened after Beilein left WVU for Michigan. I would not have blamed him, but he came because he loved WVU more than the screw job he got the first time.
 

BobbyBoucheer

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Bob did not turn the job down back then. He went to bed that night thinking he had the job and Beilein was hired the next day. Frankly, I am surprised he trusted WVU enough to give it a second go when the job opened after Beilein left WVU for Michigan. I would not have blamed him, but he came because he loved WVU more than the screw job he got the first time.

I heard Huggs demands were ridiculous even for him back then..
 

Darth_VadEER

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WVU hires well. In football and basketball. There are exceptions but we've been pretty blessed with competent coaches.

You can't argue with the success of either coach during their WVU tenure. Any school would be fortunate to have them, but Huggins strikes WV right at it's core. He's a perfect fit for the University and the state, and imo, an all time great coach - perhaps the most underappreciated coach in basketball (outside of WV).
 

Darth_VadEER

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Pastilong needed help and called Beoheim. Jim said to hire Beilein. Beilein wasn't here long enough to take a **** and he was trying to get another job. Beilein was an *******. His teams were fun to watch and but I get sick of people making him ouot to be this great guy when he wasn't.

None of us know him well enough, including yourself, to make that claim.

What we do know for sure is, that during his time at WVU he did a very good job. Most coaches are ********. It only matters when they don't win.
 

MountaineerWV

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None of us know him well enough, including yourself, to make that claim.

What we do know for sure is, that during his time at WVU he did a very good job. Most coaches are ********. It only matters when they don't win.

Doesn't stop most people from calling Coach K or Roy Williams or Calipari "a$$holes". Don't think they know those guys, either. But fact is, Beilein came here, did well, not great, and was looking for another place as quick as he got here.

People seem to forget that his team blew a 20 point lead against Louisville in the Elite 8....and we shot 55% from the floor that game, 67% from 3-point range, and STILL LOST!
 

COOL MAN

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I'm very happy having the Grad running our Program for the last 10 years; but what Beliein accomplished around here will never be forgotten......at least, IMO, it shouldn't be. And that's got nothing to do with any personal hard-ons some will (apparently) carry for the rest of his his/their existence.
 

CAJUNEER_rivals

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We owe Beilein for stepping in after the Dakich debacle and cleaning up the mess left behind. I loved his teams when he coached here. Having said that, Huggins was also interviewed during that time span and turned the job down. If I had my druthers I wish Huggins would have came home at that time instead of waiting til Beilein left. I wish nothing but the best for Beilein (unless his team plays ours) but Huggins is a better fit for WVU, and WVU fits Huggins better than it did Beilein.
I think Hardesty was the reason Huggins didn't come.
 
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I have great respect for Beilein and Huggins.
Johnny B. rescued WVU from a bad situation and was a refreshing change from the usual muscle-bound basketball.
Huggybear came home, visits mine tragedy sites and flooded towns. He is one of us, even though he grew up in Ohio where his father was a legendary high school basketball coach.
I am much happier with Huggins because he will stay till he dies on that stool during a game. Throughout our history, coaches have won and left, with Beilein and Rodriguez both going to Michigan for the money and greater fame potential, just as Bowden left for Florida State, Carlen for Texas Tech, etc.
Huggins came TO West Virginia, not because of the money, but because he wanted to come home. And he proved Thomas Wolfe wrong. Wolfe couldn't play in this defense anyway.
I wish Beilein well in the tournament, until he meets the West region champ WVU in the Final Four.
 

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Doesn't stop most people from calling Coach K or Roy Williams or Calipari "a$$holes". Don't think they know those guys, either. But fact is, Beilein came here, did well, not great, and was looking for another place as quick as he got here.

People seem to forget that his team blew a 20 point lead against Louisville in the Elite 8....and we shot 55% from the floor that game, 67% from 3-point range, and STILL LOST!

We can have different opinions. I believe he did a great job. Our program was in a pretty low spot and he did exactly what great coaches do - turned it around.

Looking for a new job doesn't bother me. Especially if they aren't running from failure. He was here 5 years. It's not like he pulled a Todd Graham on WVU.
 

writeon

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I heard Huggs demands were ridiculous even for him back then..
The story I heard back then was Huggins had been offered a contract and had accepted. Then Catlett and a big booster came to school officials and said if Huggins was hired they would never give another penny to WVU.. Our AD then called Huggins and said he had to make changes in the contract that he knew Bob would not accept. True? Who knows?
 

BobbyBoucheer

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The story I heard back then was Huggins had been offered a contract and had accepted. Then Catlett and a big booster came to school officials and said if Huggins was hired they would never give another penny to WVU.. Our AD then called Huggins and said he had to make changes in the contract that he knew Bob would not accept. True? Who knows?

i've heard a lot of different stories and I know for sure how it ended up going down was the best for us and Huggs.
 

The Hunteeeeeer

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Kinda....I think Huggins would be the easy answer, but 20% of the folks prefer
I assure you 20% of the folks don't prefer Beilein. Saying he did a good, great, phenomenal job here, isn't saying they'd prefer him. He did a very good job here and is a quality coach. I do not personally know even 1 WVU fan who would prefer Beilein over Huggs. Although, I'm sure there out there.
 
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I assure you 20% of the folks don't prefer Beilein. Saying he did a good, great, phenomenal job here, isn't saying they'd prefer him. He did a very good job here and is a quality coach. I do not personally know even 1 WVU fan who would prefer Beilein over Huggs. Although, I'm sure there out there.

Well...you know one now....one person on this board (above) said, "I prefer Beilein." Hence, I am counting him in the Beilein column.
 

1duluth1

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Huggs got us to a Final Four (with some JB talent)... and JB got us to within an overtime of Final Four.
JB offensive style was more fun to watch than Huggs' mud wrestling, tractor pull show. However, with Beilein - you could beat anybody on a given day... but if the 3s aren't falling, you could lose to anyone on a given day.
I find Huggins' teams not as much fun to watch, but he gets you the Ws. I would say that is the name of the game... but since I watch for entertainment... well...
However, Huggs loves WVU and loves West Virginia. So, I'd rather have Huggins. But Beilein got us to Elite 8 and NIT championship. That is nothing to sneeze at - especially considering the shape of the program when he inherited it.
Winter Tim
 

dogeered_again

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I lived in both "eras" and have enjoyed both. Beilein is a good family man and he did well for us. Hated to see him go until we got Huggs back. Now I'm really enjoying it.