You actually think his staff would leak transcripts of his phone conversations to selected media?
This is bad
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Who was personally embarrassed by Flynn's lies? I'd wager Pence's staff has been a little talkative.
Thats what the media should be digging into. I think they are of the opinion that undermining this Presidency is more in line with their thinking.
Do they enjoy any whistle blower protections? Just genuinely curious. Claiming nation security in their defense, it might be tough to get a conviction, but by no means should we turn a blind eye to this.
I understand doc. It has been a rough couple months for you. I can understand your overreaction to this. You just hate being wrong....who wouldn't hate to be that wrong?
Let me get this straight, now, it's the leaking of ill-gotten info that has been disseminated to the press. But when Podesta's and the DNC's emails were hacked, it was all about the content. Ok, Got it.
Usually a whistle blower is protected from prosecution when the talk about a crime being committed. That story even admits they are just trying to embarass the president.
I never saw a story that said they were only trying to embarrass POTUS. As I said, I'm all for an investigation and prosecution. As of today, I wouldn't be very sure of conviction.
You are comparing the leaking of top secret sigint to information gleaned from a phishing hack on a political organization? Got it.
Never have seen it......just like I never have watched SNL. I like to read and watch history shows and books based on actual events.......not fiction.
You and I differ on gitmo, but if I sent in seals, there would be no exit strategy with him alive. Bo berghdal isn't a traitor, he's a deserter and should be dealt with accordingly and swiftly. If soldiers died looking for him, the sentence should reflect that. Manning has been pardoned so that one is off the table.
Correct me if I'm wrong.....but I don't think President Obama's staff or any other Gov agency were the ones leaking anything during the past election.
Wasn't the blind sheik captured and kept in Gitmo? Since most of the terrorist are overseas, I prefer that the military deal with it, that's what they do better than domestic personnel.
House of Cards may be the best show ever. If you like politics, sex, mystery, and intrigue, get you a netflix machine.
Is this part of a fresh comment you made about Pence; "but at least he isn't insane....and a traitor." ?
Not sure. Also not sure what else there is to uncover. But could we not agree that something doesn't have to rise to the level of law breaking to be wrong and not in our national security interests?
Odd that Trumpite #3 has resigned/released/been fired once ties to Russia were released.
I can agree if national security interests are involved. But I seriously doubt that some of the Trump election operatives being mentioned in the media had any connection to any information involving national security.
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The Blind Sheik was tried in Federal court and convicted and now serving life in a North Carolina prison. Different circumstances, since he was living in New York and fairly easy to grab up, while al Awalaki had moved to Yemen. Another terrorist who got his day in court was 9/11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui, who's serving 6 life terms in the supermax prison in Colorado. But Bush didn't think the men we captured in Afghanistan should be treated as POWs under the Geneva Conventions (even though they served what was then the recognized government) or as criminal terrorists, and so we have our little slice of the gulag in Cuba, with the only way out for them being death.
How would sending in a SEAL team to assassinate him differ from a drone strike? My point is that at its base, either method is extrajudicial execution, and the only difference between bin Laden and al Awalaki is that bin Laden wasn't an American citizen. And that's what got the hearts of Constitutional "scholars" bleeding all over the place -- that and the fact that Obama OK'd the strike. They have no problem drone-bombing every Bedouin from the Mediterranean to the Black Sea, but al Awalaki had rights, never mind that there was no practical way of ensuring due process for him.
Bergdahl might get off if the military judge buys the defense's assertion that Trump's campaign comments calling him a dirty rotten traitor constitute undue command influence. It's an odd case, even the investigating officer said that prison wouldn't be appropriate.
As for Manning, he wasn't pardoned, Obama just commuted his sentence. A pardon wipes the conviction off the books, and Obama wasn't going to take that step. The commutation just means he gets to leave prison early -- he's still a convicted felon with a dishonorable discharge, which closes a long list of doors to future employment. But no doubt some ultra-liberal entity will take care of him.
They, *reportedly*, were talking with intelligence officers. Illegal? Don't know. Worth investigating? I think so.
Oh. Well that settles that. Shut it down.NYT article says that no evidence wrongdoing was found.
It doesn't settle anything, but it sure should reap better storylines than "looks like we got him now lets impeach him."
The whole things smells. A Presidential candidate in cahoots with a long-standing enemy. His NSA resigns for lying about it. US Intel says the DNC was hacked by that same enemy and trying to help Trump. That enemy plants fake news all over to help Trump. Trump asks that enemy to release HRC's emails. Yep, nothing to see here.
Short answer: yes, regardless of when:
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 45 › § 953
But it's doubtful Flynn would be prosecuted for this. Nobody ever has.
I got the blind condom mixed up with KSM, who's at Gitmo, correct? Good place for him. Soldiers are afforded Geneva convention and since the terrorist in Afghanistan or anywhere else do not fight under the flag of a country, they are not due any consideration from the Geneva convention. I would imagine they are not a signee of the convention which would definitely preclude them from any rights. When someone like Al Alawki takes up sides against us in another country, he is fair game. He has no more rights. As far as Bergdahl goes, he walked off his post voluntarily, men searched for him. If they died looking for him, I believe that would be pretty easy to prove, he deserves a prison sentence for getting men killed for desertion of his post.
I was referring to you talking about capturing him and bringing him back before a judge and jury. I was just saying that I wouldn't risk anybody's life for a low level operative like Al Alawki. He wouldn't have any info about planned operations by Al Queda