Let's hypothesize that the Libs are successful

[WVPATX]

And they convince the number of electors needed to throw the election to Hillary. What happens? Clearly there will be ongoing lawsuits that are going to take lots of time. Who gets inaugurated and when? If not by January 20th, what happens? What do average Americans do that feel the election was stolen? Open rebellion? Riots, Revolution? I am a bit hyperbolic, but this will enrage an electorate with consequences we can't begin to imagine.

What happens to the dollar? To the markets? To foreign capital coming into the country? To the sale of our bonds by foreigners or by Americans for that matter? American would no longer be a "safe haven" for investors? These people trying to overturn the election are playing with a fire they don't understand.

Libs currently claim they have 10 electors willing to change their votes. I think they need something like 25 more.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...r-democrats-threatened-put-bullet-head-video/

 

[WVUCOOPER]

And they convince the number of electors needed to throw the election to Hillary. What happens? Clearly there will be ongoing lawsuits that are going to take lots of time. Who gets inaugurated and when? If not by January 20th, what happens? What do average Americans do that feel the election was stolen? Open rebellion? Riots, Revolution? I am a bit hyperbolic, but this will enrage an electorate with consequences we can't begin to imagine.

What happens to the dollar? To the markets? To foreign capital coming into the country? To the sale of our bonds by foreigners or by Americans for that matter? American would no longer be a "safe haven" for investors? These people trying to overturn the election are playing with a fire they don't understand.

Libs currently claim they have 10 electors willing to change their votes. I think they need something like 25 more.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...r-democrats-threatened-put-bullet-head-video/

lol. It's not happening.

 

[WVPATX]

lol. It's not happening.

Probably right, but they is a huge effort by the Dems to overturn the election. A Harvard professor has offered free legal support and claims 10 clients already. Lives are being threatened. I think it fails, but there is no question the effort is underway.

Again, what would be the consequences if they are successful?

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Probably right, but they is a huge effort by the Dems to overturn the election. A Harvard professor has offered free legal support and claims 10 clients already. Lives are being threatened. I think it fails, but there is no question the effort is underway.

Again, what would be the consequences if they are successful?

I don't think it's such a "huge effort", but I'm sure you will spin it that way so that you can trumpet (see what I did there) it as another huge win for The Don and GOP and go about painting your walls white. Best of luck to ya.

 

[WVPATX]

Probably right, but they is a huge effort by the Dems to overturn the election. A Harvard professor has offered free legal support and claims 10 clients already. Lives are being threatened. I think it fails, but there is no question the effort is underway.

Again, what would be the consequences if they are successful?

I don't think it's such a "huge effort", but I'm sure you will spin it that way so that you can trumpet (see what I did there) it as another huge win for The Don and GOP and go about painting your walls white. Best of luck to ya.

You didn't answer my question but make no mistake, it is a huge effort. Try googling news reports of all the actions being taken. Both by politicians and by citizens.

This effort is much larger than the effort to delegitimize George W. Bush.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Dang.....you get on to some of us for far-fetched accusations and you are already getting paranoid about an event that WILL NOT HAPPEN. Perhaps you should worry more about our new relationship with Vladimir Lenin/Stalin/Putin........

 

[WVUBRU]

Yet another whacko trolling thread that has no relevance. I think patx and that atl dude are trying to outdue each other on who can be the bigger nutjob.

 

[WVPATX]

Yet another whacko trolling thread that has no relevance. I think patx and that atl dude are trying to outdue each other on who can be the bigger nutjob.

LOL. If you don't think the Dems are actively trying to delegitimize Trump, you're either not very bright or not reading. They are also trying to sway electoral college voters and they have a big operation trying to do so. It won't succeed but not because the Dems aren't trying.

Josh Ernest, just yesterday, claimed that Trump was essentially working with Russia during the campaign. Patently absurd.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Yet another whacko trolling thread that has no relevance. I think patx and that atl dude are trying to outdue each other on who can be the bigger nutjob.

It's a blowout. Not even close.

 

[wvu2007]

Yet another whacko trolling thread that has no relevance. I think patx and that atl dude are trying to outdue each other on who can be the bigger nutjob.

Brucey, why are you so mad?

 

[WVPATX]

Brucey, why are you so mad?

He's been this way since. the election. Wonder why? I have offered the advice that libs seek counseling, perhaps group counseling. I think it could really help to stabilize their mentality to the extent that is possible.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

It's a blowout. Not even close.

Give it time

 

[atlkvb]

These people trying to overturn the election are playing with a fire they don't understand.

They understand exactly what they're doing...that's why they're doing it! They want chaos, they want to de-legitimatize Trump's election, and stall his inauguration. They're desperate, they're losing power and don't want to step aside and allow themselves to be marginalized.

If they would subvert the process in their own party's nomination process, why wouldn't they try to subvert the ascension of the person who defeated their hand selected puppet?

 

[atlkvb]

Dang.....you get on to some of us for far-fetched accusations and you are already getting paranoid about an event that WILL NOT HAPPEN. Perhaps you should worry more about our new relationship with Vladimir Lenin/Stalin/Putin........

If it will not happen, or there's nothing to these efforts...what are they up to...why are they doing this?

 

[atlkvb]

I think patx and that atl dude are trying to outdue each other on who can be the bigger nutjob.

Ostrich...meet sand.

 

[WVPATX]

Ostrich...meet sand.

Have you noticed that it is only the Dems that try and overturn elections. W in 2000 and now Trump. They don't like the way our Republic works.

 

[Airport]

And they convince the number of electors needed to throw the election to Hillary. What happens? Clearly there will be ongoing lawsuits that are going to take lots of time. Who gets inaugurated and when? If not by January 20th, what happens? What do average Americans do that feel the election was stolen? Open rebellion? Riots, Revolution? I am a bit hyperbolic, but this will enrage an electorate with consequences we can't begin to imagine.

What happens to the dollar? To the markets? To foreign capital coming into the country? To the sale of our bonds by foreigners or by Americans for that matter? American would no longer be a "safe haven" for investors? These people trying to overturn the election are playing with a fire they don't understand.

Libs currently claim they have 10 electors willing to change their votes. I think they need something like 25 more.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...r-democrats-threatened-put-bullet-head-video/

If I'm not mistaken, if either candidate fells to get to the 270 threshold, then the vote goes to the house of representatives where the repubs hold the big edge. A vote is taken and the winner is the President.

 

[mneilmont]

Dang.....you get on to some of us for far-fetched accusations and you are already getting paranoid about an event that WILL NOT HAPPEN. Perhaps you should worry more about our new relationship with Vladimir Lenin/Stalin/Putin........

Fox News , Shep Smith just reported Putin was personally involved. Didn't get full story as I got in late.

 

[MountaineerWV]

If it will not happen, or there's nothing to these efforts...what are they up to...why are they doing this?

Perhaps because Trump was the one who called it a "corrupt system"????? Maybe they are following what he would have done if he had lost the electoral vote?

 

[WVPATX]

Fox News , Shep Smith just reported Putin was personally involved. Didn't get full story as I got in late.

Shep Smith is quoting CIA speculation. Some unnamed sources identified a direct role for Putin. Yesterday, the CIA and other intelligence agencies refused to meet with Congress. Very unusual.

Recent stories have surfaced claiming a insider leak of the emails. Some stories have emerged of the CIA actually leaking the emails.

The FBI has not agreed with CIA that Putin tried to help Trump. So has the DNI, James Clapper.

Who knows at this point what went on. Why they refused to meet with Congress is to say the least unusual and highly disconcerting.

 

[WVPATX]

Perhaps because Trump was the one who called it a "corrupt system"????? Maybe they are following what he would have done if he had lost the electoral vote?

Trump's main point, which no reasonable person can deny, is that the main stream media was overwhelmingly for Hillary. 91% of Trump stories during the general election was negative. A historic high. That is a corrupt system. The media did all they could to elect Hillary.

 

[atlkvb]

Perhaps because Trump was the one who called it a "corrupt system"????? Maybe they are following what he would have done if he had lost the electoral vote?

Really? So then why did they try to corrupt (in fact they did) their own primary system? Did Trump do that during his primary?

 

[mule_eer]

lol. It's not happening.

I wasn't worried until you made that prediction. The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

 

[atlkvb]

Have you noticed that it is only the Dems that try and overturn elections. W in 2000 and now Trump. They don't like the way our Republic works.

Then they accuse the other party of everything they do! Hillary was carping about Trump not accepting the results of the election before she lost (so arrogant thinking it was already rigged for her) and now look who's whining about the results? Alt right, FBI, Russians, voting machines, fake news...anything except she was rejected by the American people.

Liberals just can't accept the fact that a lot of people just aren't buying what they're selling.

 

[atlkvb]

If I'm not mistaken, if either candidate fells to get to the 270 threshold, then the vote goes to the house of representatives where the repubs hold the big edge. A vote is taken and the winner is the President.

The electors are bound legally to vote for the candidate who won their State, but there is nothing forcing them to do that. That's the grey area the Dems and the Left are operating in, trying to cut off those electoral votes. (threatening to kill them, trying to get them to not vote for Trump, etc)

My question is, why isn't the Justice department investigating these threats and coercion of the electors?

 

[WVPATX]

The electors are bound legally to vote for the candidate who won their State, but there is nothing forcing them to do that. That's the grey area the Dems and the Left are operating in, trying to cut off those electoral votes. (threatening to kill them, trying to get them to not vote for Trump, etc)

My question is, why isn't the Justice department investigating these threats and coercion of the electors?

A bigger question for me is why is it only the Dems that try to overturn elections? We all know the DOJ is corrupt. Lynch meeting with Clinton was all the evidence we need.

Dems don't like our Republic. They want to get rid of the Electoral College. They want the big states to dominate the country. Heck, their judges want to get rid of the intent of our Founders as expressed in our Constitution. Even though our Founders were smart enough to recognize the need for change and provided mechanisms for that, the Dems want to forego those remedies and impose their own beliefs by unelected judges. Because they know they can't win the legislative battles. So they resort to unelected, unaccountable judges to create law they prefer.

 

[atlkvb]

A bigger question for me is why is it only the Dems that try to overturn elections? We all know the DOJ is corrupt. Lynch meeting with Clinton was all the evidence we need.

Dems don't like our Republic. They want to get rid of the Electoral College. They want the big states to dominate the country. Heck, their judges want to get rid of the intent of our Founders as expressed in our Constitution. Even though our Founders were smart enough to recognize the need for change and provided mechanisms for that, the Dems want to forego those remedies and impose their own beliefs by unelected judges. Because they know they can't win the legislative battles. So they resort to unelected, unaccountable judges to create law they prefer.

It's their self assured arrogance...their belief that they know better than everyone else how to run the country or how it should be run. They carry that over into what we should think, say, how we should live, or even behave. It's all about control...either conform and agree with them, or suffer their wrath.

 

[MountaineerWV]

The electors are bound legally to vote for the candidate who won their State, but there is nothing forcing them to do that. That's the grey area the Dems and the Left are operating in, trying to cut off those electoral votes. (threatening to kill them, trying to get them to not vote for Trump, etc)

My question is, why isn't the Justice department investigating these threats and coercion of the electors?

That's not true, not for EVERY state. Some state legislatures did pass laws binding electors......but others have no such laws.

 

[MountaineerWV]

A bigger question for me is why is it only the Dems that try to overturn elections? We all know the DOJ is corrupt. Lynch meeting with Clinton was all the evidence we need.

Dems don't like our Republic. They want to get rid of the Electoral College. They want the big states to dominate the country. Heck, their judges want to get rid of the intent of our Founders as expressed in our Constitution. Even though our Founders were smart enough to recognize the need for change and provided mechanisms for that, the Dems want to forego those remedies and impose their own beliefs by unelected judges. Because they know they can't win the legislative battles. So they resort to unelected, unaccountable judges to create law they prefer.

I'm a Democrat. I love our Republic. So, your theory is flawed.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Trump's main point, which no reasonable person can deny, is that the main stream media was overwhelmingly for Hillary. 91% of Trump stories during the general election was negative. A historic high. That is a corrupt system. The media did all they could to elect Hillary.

First off.....media is not a "political system". Secondly, it's called "freedom of the press". If big corporations can be treated as individuals and donate BILLIONS to politics, then news media can and should as well. If we have "educated" voters, then they will not buy in to any propaganda, right? And if you claim that Trump's victory was a mandate of the people, then doesn't this prove that there is NOT a "corrupt" system? Instead, you are contradicting your own argument by saying this.

 

[atlkvb]

That's not true, not for EVERY state. Some state legislatures did pass laws binding electors......but others have no such laws.

If California's voters sent enough electors to the College to vote for candidate A, they have an obligation to vote for candidate A. If they instead choose to vote for candidate B against the voters wishes, they (voters) can petition that vote through their representatives to nullify those votes against their wishes. What the voters stated has to be represented one way or the other even if some electors do choose otherwise.

 

[WVPATX]

First off.....media is not a "political system". Secondly, it's called "freedom of the press". If big corporations can be treated as individuals and donate BILLIONS to politics, then news media can and should as well. If we have "educated" voters, then they will not buy in to any propaganda, right? And if you claim that Trump's victory was a mandate of the people, then doesn't this prove that there is NOT a "corrupt" system? Instead, you are contradicting your own argument by saying this.

The media have special constitutional protections. Hillary vastly outspent Trump including with corporate dollars. The media was overwhelmingly for Hillary. The media should have been unbiased. They were corrupt.

 

[MountaineerWV]

The media have special constitutional protections. Hillary vastly outspent Trump including with corporate dollars. The media was overwhelmingly for Hillary. The media should have been unbiased. They were corrupt.

The media is no different than special interest groups. They are swayed by the viewers that watch their stations and programs. Welcome to the modern age buddy! For you guys to be crying "corrupt" on the mean ole media is laughable. This coming from supporters of our president-elect who rips on programs of satirical humor like SNL for this skits because he "doesn't like them". Come on, man!

 

[dave]

I'm a Democrat. I love our Republic. So, your theory is flawed.

You are a nazi loving communist.

 

[WVPATX]

The media is no different than special interest groups. They are swayed by the viewers that watch their stations and programs. Welcome to the modern age buddy! For you guys to be crying "corrupt" on the mean ole media is laughable. This coming from supporters of our president-elect who rips on programs of satirical humor like SNL for this skits because he "doesn't like them". Come on, man!

If you are correct, and the media is swayed by popular opinion, then they have no need for special constitutional protections. They are no better than any individual supposedly reporting the news. Walter Cronkite will be turning over in his grave with the performance of this crew.

if the media is going to be biased and corrupt, than they deserve no special privileges with respect to reporting on the president or on the news. They deserve no protection against libel or slander.

 

[WVPATX]

The media is no different than special interest groups. They are swayed by the viewers that watch their stations and programs. Welcome to the modern age buddy! For you guys to be crying "corrupt" on the mean ole media is laughable. This coming from supporters of our president-elect who rips on programs of satirical humor like SNL for this skits because he "doesn't like them". Come on, man!

The president elect is different than the media. It's called the vote. He or she can say whatever they want and they either are elected or not. This is completely different from the media.

 

[atlkvb]

The media have special constitutional protections. Hillary vastly outspent Trump including with corporate dollars. The media was overwhelmingly for Hillary. The media should have been unbiased. They were corrupt.

The Media perfected the art of lying with the Truth, or simply not reporting on what was actually happening.

When that didn't work, they manufactured issues they believed or thought would make people be against Trump. When that failed, they tried to make his supporters think he had no chance to win. When he won, they tried to call his election a farce. Now since none of that has worked, they're simply participating in the campaign to de-legitimize his election, or overturn it.