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Boomboom521

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This is typical misinterpretation, distortion of facts, and divisive rhetoric that comes from conservative propaganda. Liberalism is not confined to such distinct ideas of truth or righteousness devoid of any actual foundation. Liberalism is the atmosphere in which truth (for the individual) can be freely sought without the confining parameters of any established foundation. What is right and true for me, might not be right and true for you. I should be allowed to seek what is right and true for me, without your parameters confining my quest. This becomes especially relevant in areas of sexuality, where established "truths" and ideas of "righteousness" are confining to the homosexual. Breakthroughs in science, engineering, art, music, and even business follow this same ideology. The video above distorts the philosophy.

Sharia Law is as open for interpretation as the holy bible. Although it does allow harsh punishment for certain crimes, the implementation of the punishments can only be administered after proof has been established. It is not as impressive to women as the holy bible has been interpreted to be. The above video is again a distortion of Sharia Law based on extremist views. It is taking the most extreme cases and arguing that they are the norm. This is how corrupt our view of Islam has become in this country. Understandably so after the attack on our country on 9/11, but as Americans we are better than the blanket hatred we are casting over an entire religion. Christianity should not be condemned because of the actions of extremists who felt justified by the words of the Bible open to interpretation,
 
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This is typical misinterpretation, distortion of facts, and divisive rhetoric that comes from conservative propaganda. Liberalism is not confined to such distinct ideas of truth or righteousness devoid of any actual foundation. Liberalism is the atmosphere in which truth (for the individual) can be freely sought without the confining parameters of any established foundation. What is right and true for me, might not be right and true for you. I should be allowed to seek what is right and true for me, without your parameters confining my quest. This becomes especially relevant in areas of sexuality, where established "truths" and ideas of "righteousness" are confining to the homosexual. Breakthroughs in science, engineering, art, music, and even business follow this same ideology. The video above distorts the philosophy.

Sharia Law is as open for interpretation as the holy bible. Although it does allow harsh punishment for certain crimes, the implementation of the punishments can only be administered after proof has been established. It is not as impressive to women as the holy bible has been interpreted to be. The above video is again a distortion of Sharia Law based on extremist views. It is taking the most extreme cases and arguing that they are the norm. This is how corrupt our view of Islam has become in this country. Understandably so after the attack on our country on 9/11, but as Americans we are better than the blanket hatred we are casting over an entire religion. Christianity should not be condemned because of the actions of extremists who felt justified by the words of the Bible open to interpretation,

What you describe is not modern day liberalism.

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Liberalism is the atmosphere in which truth (for the individual) can be freely sought without the confining parameters of any established foundation.

Do you think this is what is happening on college campuses today? Trigger warnings of speech that is unwelcome. Safe rooms to shield someone from unsafe speech. Violent actions on campus to prevent speakers from providing opposing points of view (e.g. Condeleeza Rice invitation revoked). That is not liberalism.

You said:

What is right and true for me, might not be right and true for you

How is stopping anyone from expressing views you find untrue and not right for you, liberal? I thought liberalism is just the opposite? I thought liberals sought truth wherever it may be, even in ideas deemed wrong.

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This becomes especially relevant in areas of sexuality, where established "truths" and ideas of "righteousness" are confining to the homosexual.


They why is milo yiannopoulos regularly banned from campus. He is, after all, a homosexual with a different point of view? Why shout down his voice? Tolerance? Openness? Diversity?
 

Boomboom521

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What you describe is not modern day liberalism.

You said:

Liberalism is the atmosphere in which truth (for the individual) can be freely sought without the confining parameters of any established foundation.

Do you think this is what is happening on college campuses today? Trigger warnings of speech that is unwelcome. Safe rooms to shield someone from unsafe speech. Violent actions on campus to prevent speakers from providing opposing points of view (e.g. Condeleeza Rice invitation revoked). That is not liberalism.

You said:

What is right and true for me, might not be right and true for you

How is stopping anyone from expressing views you find untrue and not right for you, liberal? I thought liberalism is just the opposite? I thought liberals sought truth wherever it may be, even in ideas deemed wrong.

You said:

This becomes especially relevant in areas of sexuality, where established "truths" and ideas of "righteousness" are confining to the homosexual.


They why is milo yiannopoulos regularly banned from campus. He is, after all, a homosexual with a different point of view? Why shout down his voice? Tolerance? Openness? Diversity?
Not all liberals think alike. Why is that so hard for you to realize? Do all conservatives think alike? Are you for funding a cure for homosexuality? Are you for school prayer? Are you against pornography? Are you for the death penalty? Issues are issues, people see thing differently even within the convenient groups we seem to place people into. The banning of speakers on college campuses is not liberal. However, if a speaker has a message that is derived from hate, exclusion, false science and facts or invites violence, I think it's ok for a college to deny that speaker. Also, understand that college campuses are NOT liberal home turf. If liberal ideology prevails at college institutions, wellmaybe that's because aspects of the liberal philosophy fosters education, science, tolerance, and understanding. College campuses have liability, safety, and funding that they must think about, so a denial of a speaker might have something to do with concerns in these areas and not a liberal principle. Despite how it might get spun.

Liberalism has also been adopted by an angry youth that wants wholesale change to our society. Conservative republicans (mostly due to their religious fundamentals) have become the target for a lot of this rage. This is not in line with the Liberal philosophy. Conservatives are free to think that which the deem as right, and follow their religion unfettered. However, people rage often when they feel what they hold dear about their way of life is being attacked. Both the left and the right are guilty of this. College campuses are filled with young liberal minded people who are raging at the Christian majority that attack their pursuit of happiness as impure. In some cases that rage is justified, in some it is not. Conservatives are raging at the seemingly anti-Christian values of some young liberals and feel that their America and their way of life is being attacked.

I feel that this is the most important issue facing us today. This conflict is being glorified by the media as a kind of "war" over America. The right is guilty the left is guilty. It's not American either. I respect your views and religion, I even see positives within it. I see good people as good people. We have to get away from the idea that your America has no room for me, and my America has no room for you.