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Boomboom521

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If you don't believe this is an anti cop movement you're simply ignoring facts. Do you know how many police officers have been assassinated recently? This is all about cops. Look at Baltimore. Look at Ferguson. My goodness, the facts are staring you right in the face.
The video I posted is repeated over and over and over again. If those people shot in those videos were white people being shot by black cops for traffic infractions....you'd want change too
 

Boomboom521

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Boomboom521

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Why do you assume he knows more than me? Why do you differentiate people by the color of their skin? Why am I the racist? You seem to be the racist here.
He knows more about training of law enforcement and the affects of the psychological pressures of being a member of law enforcement. If you are FBI too, then I apologize
 

WVPATX

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Both of those articles prove a need for a BLM movement. Did you even read them?

Yes, I read the articles. BLM claims that cops target innocent blacks for assassination. They claim blacks are shot more frequently than others by cops. The studies prove them to be incorrect. When you look at who commits the crimes (actual percentages), the actual involvement with police officers, white are killed proportionally more frequently than blacks.

The Harvard study showed that blacks are more frequently maced, pushed against a wall, handcuffed and tasered more frequently than whites, but that whites are shot more frequently.
 

Boomboom521

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Yes, I read the articles. BLM claims that cops target innocent blacks for assassination. They claim blacks are shot more frequently than others by cops. The studies prove them to be incorrect. When you look at who commits the crimes (actual percentages), the actual involvement with police officers, white are killed proportionally more frequently than blacks.

The Harvard study showed that blacks are more frequently maced, pushed against a wall, handcuffed and tasered more frequently than whites, but that whites are shot more frequently.
The percentages showing whites were shot more than blacks was not adjusted to allow for population. The other article showed that blacks were treated with hostility at a more higher frequency than whites
 

WVPATX

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The percentages showing whites were shot more than blacks was not adjusted to allow for population. The other article showed that blacks were treated with hostility at a more higher frequency than whites

If you read the report, blacks commit crimes at a far higher rate per capita than whites. They are shot less frequently than whites based on the per capita measurement of crime and interactions with police.

The second report, you are exactly right. Blacks are handcuffed, tasered and pushed against a wall more frequently than whites, but whites are shot more frequently.

The DOJ has started a program evaluating police performance based on disparate impact. They look solely at the population percentages (blacks make up 13% of the population) and evaluate police metrics against that percentage. They don't take into account the race of the criminals committing the crimes and thus more involved with police. It is flawed in the extreme.
 

WVPATX

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I said it was about RACIAL PROFILING in law enforcement.

I missed your first post on this topic. I then read a later post by you:

The entire need for the BLM movement is racism. To combat racism without "racist" elements in the message, doesn't seem possible to me....but again I think logic is my problem in your eyes.

I took this to mean you felt BLM was created to combat racism. It was created in response to police interactions with the black community.

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"Black lives matter is NOT a racist movement! It is a legitimate social movement seeking to eliminate racial profiling by law enforcement that has led to the deaths of INNOCIENT Americans!"

I disagree. I believe BLM has virulent racists amongst its leadership and members. Not all members are racists, but many are. BLM protested in Ferguson. Michael Brown was not INNOCENT. He was found by Obama's DOJ (Eric Holder) of being responsible for his own death in that he tried to take away the police officer's gun and then charged the officer. The Baltimore 6 (of which 3 are black) were all acquitted. Freddie Gray's death created riots and destruction in Baltimore. The police were declared INNOCENT.

Not every shooting is due to racism. Some are and the police need to be convicted and punished. But BLM protests even when a black officer is involved and the shooting is not really controversial.

I think the Nation of Islam are racists. They're hatred of Jews in particular and whites is well documented. La Raza is racist.

My point is that liberals tend to believe that only conservatives are racists. That is simply not true.
 
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dave

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I did that for your benefit. It mattered to you
Who said it mattered to me? You are the one who is classifying all the people in your life. Why would it matter if an FBI guy is white or black? You are the one assuming that it would make a difference to me. Skin color is your issue and not my issue. See my earlier post in regards to your assumptions of me.
 

Boomboom521

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I missed your first post on this topic. I then read a later post by you:

The entire need for the BLM movement is racism. To combat racism without "racist" elements in the message, doesn't seem possible to me....but again I think logic is my problem in your eyes.

I took this to mean you felt BLM was created to combat racism. It was created in response to police interactions with the black community.

You also posted:

"Black lives matter is NOT a racist movement! It is a legitimate social movement seeking to eliminate racial profiling by law enforcement that has led to the deaths of INNOCIENT Americans!"

I disagree. I believe BLM has virulent racists amongst its leadership and members. Not all members are racists, but many are. BLM protested in Ferguson. Michael Brown was not INNOCENT. He was found by Obama's DOJ (Eric Holder) of being responsible for his own death in that he tried to take away the police officer's gun and then charged the officer. The Baltimore 6 (of which 3 are black) were all acquitted. Freddie Gray's death created riots and destruction in Baltimore. The police were declared INNOCENT.

Not every shooting is due to racism. Some are and the police need to be convicted and punished. But BLM protests even when a black officer is involved and the shooting is not really controversial.

I think the Nation of Islam are racists. They're hatred of Jews in particular and whites is well documented. La Raza is racist.

My point is that liberals tend to believe that only conservatives are racists. That is simply not true.
I don't believe that only conservatives are racist. I do however believe that the undercurrents of racism that exist in conservative attitudes towards a desire for minority communities to NOT voice dissent are real. It is easy for white people to say police need to draw their weapon and fire without worrying about what the black community will say. But you're not aware of the fear and uneasiness that is created in the black community. It's like saying separate but equal is fine in the 1950's.....it was, if you were white.

And not all crimes carry a death sentence. Just because someone is guilty of a crime does not give officers a right to fire when it's not needed.Malcolm X spoke very well about the racist rhetoric of the NOI, and it's counterproductive ideology to racial equality. La Raza, I don't know enough about to comment.
 

Boomboom521

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Who said it mattered to me? You are the one who is classifying all the people in your life. Why would it matter if an FBI guy is white or black? You are the one assuming that it would make a difference to me. Skin color is your issue and not my issue. See my earlier post in regards to your assumptions of me.
I think I'm pretty dead on in my assumptions of you. Are you in yours of me?
 

Boomboom521

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Taking your own assumptions as facts is pretty much a textbook definition of prejudice.
My man called liberals whiny pusses. I didn't like the assumption and predjudice. I said so, and how embarrassed it made me....but I'm the one who assumes and has prejudice?
 

WVPATX

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I don't believe that only conservatives are racist. I do however believe that the undercurrents of racism that exist in conservative attitudes towards a desire for minority communities to NOT voice dissent are real. It is easy for white people to say police need to draw their weapon and fire without worrying about what the black community will say. But you're not aware of the fear and uneasiness that is created in the black community. It's like saying separate but equal is fine in the 1950's.....it was, if you were white.

And not all crimes carry a death sentence. Just because someone is guilty of a crime does not give officers a right to fire when it's not needed.Malcolm X spoke very well about the racist rhetoric of the NOI, and it's counterproductive ideology to racial equality. La Raza, I don't know enough about to comment.

Again according to the Washington Post and Harvard, both very liberal organization's, blacks are not being targeted by police officers for assassination. Blacks are not being killed disproportionate to the amount of crimes they committed and their confrontations with police. Those are facts that BLM does not want anyone to know. Are there bad police shootings? Absolutely. Can police officers be better trained to deescalate situations? I believe they can. Can blacks show more respect for police officers and obey their instructions, you bet. The Problem with BLM is that it is causing police officers to withdraw from urban communities and crime is going up. Innocent people are dying. That's the tragedy.

But I understand there's a huge lack of trust between the black community and police organizations. I don't believe that is due in large measure to racism. I believe it is due to the fact that the police go to where the crimes are being committed therefore they interact very frequently with the black community in urban areas. And it is during that interaction, that leads to this lack of trust and perhaps lack of mutual respect.

And racists are racists. The white racist hate those who are not white for a variety of reasons, none rational. The same is true of minorities, racists are racists.
 
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WVPATX

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The video I posted is repeated over and over and over again. If those people shot in those videos were white people being shot by black cops for traffic infractions....you'd want change too

I can post many videos of whites, without weapons, being shot by cops. You never see it in the national media because that is not the narrative they want to portray. You are only getting one side of the story.

Facts are facts. The studies by Wash Post and Harvard, both liberal, are far more informative.