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Obama won OH, PA, MI, and WI. In these very same states, there was a cross over of up to 20% of white voters to Trump. So they are racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes for voting for Trump. Yet, when they voted for Obama they were enlightened?

The lack of logic and basic understanding of most liberals is very, very scary.
 
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WVPATX said:
Obama won OH, PA, MI, and WI. In these very same states, there was a cross over of up to 20% of white voters to Trump. So they are racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes for voting for Trump. Yet, when they voted for Obama they were enlightened?

The lack of logic and basic understanding of most liberals is very, very scary.
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They should be listening to Bill: It's the economy, stupid.
 
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WVPATX said:
Obama won OH, PA, MI, and WI. In these very same states, there was a cross over of up to 20% of white voters to Trump. So they are racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes for voting for Trump. Yet, when they voted for Obama they were enlightened?

The lack of logic and basic understanding of most liberals is very, very scary.
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My goodness, those were truly enlightening comments.
 
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WVPATX said:
Obama won OH, PA, MI, and WI. In these very same states, there was a cross over of up to 20% of white voters to Trump. So they are racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobes for voting for Trump. Yet, when they voted for Obama they were enlightened?

The lack of logic and basic understanding of most liberals is very, very scary.
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Not all Trump supporters are racists. But who can deny that the prominent racist organizations in this country have openly supported Trump. Why is that? Is he telling them what they want to hear?
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
Not all Trump supporters are racists. But who can deny that the prominent racist organizations in this country have openly supported Trump. Why is that? Is he telling them what they want to hear?
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And who can argue that a virulently racist organization, Black Lives Matter, voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. Racism goes both ways. La Raza members voted for Hillary and they are avowed racists.

Trump won those states with a huge cross-over from white voters that voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. That is the election in a nutshell.
 
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And who can argue that a virulently racist organization, Black Lives Matter, voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. Racism goes both ways. La Raza members voted for Hillary and they are avowed racists.

Trump won those states with a huge cross-over from white voters that voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. That is the election in a nutshell.
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Ha! I know nothing about La Raza (never heard of it), but to equate the BLM movement with the KKK is a stretch even for you.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
Ha! I know nothing about La Raza (never heard of it), but to equate the BLM movement with the KKK is a stretch even for you.
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BLM is much, much bigger than the insignificant KKK. There are radical racists and racist leaders of that movement. You can't complain about KKK support for Trump and then deny BLM support for Hillary isn't relevant.

La Raza is a Hispanic group. La Raza means the race. They goal is to take back over the land the "gringo's" took from Mexico. They are racists.

Funny how libs like you think that only conservatives can be racists. It's both wrong and intellectually lazy on your part.

I noticed your lack of comment on the cross over white vote in PA, OH, MI and WI. Previous Obama voters. They won Trump this election, not the KKK.
 
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BLM is much, much bigger than the insignificant KKK. There are radical racists and racist leaders of that movement. You can't complain about KKK support for Trump and then deny BLM support for Hillary isn't relevant.

La Raza is a Hispanic group. La Raza means the race. They goal is to take back over the land the "gringo's" took from Mexico. They are racists.

Funny how libs like you think that only conservatives can be racists. It's both wrong and intellectually lazy on your part.

I noticed your lack of comment on the cross over white vote in PA, OH, MI and WI. Previous Obama voters. They won Trump this election, not the KKK.
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
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Intelligent response. Anyone that doesn't know about La Raza is pretty incompetent when talking about racism. In the liberal mind, racism is a one way street. It is not. Both sides have radical racists and racists organizations. I think the Dems organizations are larger and much better funded. Soros gives a lot of money to BLM.
 
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WVPATX said:
And who can argue that a virulently racist organization, Black Lives Matter, voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. Racism goes both ways. La Raza members voted for Hillary and they are avowed racists.

Trump won those states with a huge cross-over from white voters that voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. That is the election in a nutshell.
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Black lives matter is NOT a racist movement! It is a legitimate social movement seeking to eliminate racial profiling by law enforcement that has led to the deaths of INNOCIENT Americans!
 
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WVPATX said:
BLM is much, much bigger than the insignificant KKK. There are radical racists and racist leaders of that movement. You can't complain about KKK support for Trump and then deny BLM support for Hillary isn't relevant.

La Raza is a Hispanic group. La Raza means the race. They goal is to take back over the land the "gringo's" took from Mexico. They are racists.

Funny how libs like you think that only conservatives can be racists. It's both wrong and intellectually lazy on your part.

I noticed your lack of comment on the cross over white vote in PA, OH, MI and WI. Previous Obama voters. They won Trump this election, not the KKK.
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Did you just compare the KKK to BLM? Did you do it with a straight face, because that's a joke if I've ever heard one
 
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Intelligent response. Anyone that doesn't know about La Raza is pretty incompetent when talking about racism. In the liberal mind, racism is a one way street. It is not. Both sides have radical racists and racists organizations. I think the Dems organizations are larger and much better funded. Soros gives a lot of money to BLM.
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Your inability to understand the genesis of BLM and their purpose indeed demonstrates your own racism. Alas, I'm talking to a wall once again.
 
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Intelligent response. Anyone that doesn't know about La Raza is pretty incompetent when talking about racism. In the liberal mind, racism is a one way street. It is not. Both sides have radical racists and racists organizations. I think the Dems organizations are larger and much better funded. Soros gives a lot of money to BLM.
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Neither La Raza or BLM are "Dem" organizations.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
Not all Trump supporters are racists. But who can deny that the prominent racist organizations in this country have openly supported Trump. Why is that? Is he telling them what they want to hear?
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Who can deny that the prominent communist organizations in this country supported Obama and Hillary. Why is that? Were they telling them what they wanted to hear?
 
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Boomboom521 said:
Black lives matter is NOT a racist movement! It is a legitimate social movement seeking to eliminate racial profiling by law enforcement that has led to the deaths of INNOCIENT Americans!
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BLM has very racist elements amongst its members and its leaders. BLM has also called for the killing of police officers in at least two marches. Racism crosses liberal and conservative lines. Indisputable.
 
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Who can deny that the prominent communist organizations in this country supported Obama and Hillary. Why is that? Were they telling them what they wanted to hear?
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Meanwhile, Trump's NSA appointee is actually being paid to speak at the 10th anniversary of Russia's new pravda. Imagine that.
 
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Boomboom521 said:
Neither La Raza or BLM are "Dem" organizations.
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And the KKK is not a GOP organization. However, BLM and La Raza vote Dem and BLM is financially supported largely from Soros a big time Dem donor. So please don't claim there is no connection.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
Your inability to understand the genesis of BLM and their purpose indeed demonstrates your own racism. Alas, I'm talking to a wall once again.
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I understand their genesis and their purpose. Do you dispute they have racist elements in that organization? Do you dispute leaders of BLM have made racist comments and are indeed racist?

You're lack of intelligence is staggering.
 
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WVPATX said:
BLM has very racist elements amongst its members and its leaders. BLM has also called for the killing of police officers in at least two marches. Racism crosses liberal and conservative lines. Indisputable.
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LOL. This is your proof that BLM doesn't contain racists elements? This is too easy. I really wish you really had the intelligence for a rigorous debate.
 
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I understand their genesis and their purpose. Do you dispute they have racist elements in that organization? Do you dispute leaders of BLM have made racist comments and are indeed racist?

You're lack of intelligence is staggering.
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The entire need for the BLM movement is racism. To combat racism without "racist" elements in the message, doesn't seem possible to me....but again I think logic is my problem in your eyes.
 
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Boomboom521 said:
The entire need for the BLM movement is racism. To combat racism without "racist" elements in the message, doesn't seem possible to me....but again I think logic is my problem in your eyes.
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BLM is a racist organization.
 
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It is going to be a long eight years for you. You would be wise to pace yourself.
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Extra long for you, when you realize Trump is a con man over the next 4 years, and he loses to Senator Harris in the next election.
 
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RichardPeterJohnson said:
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Trump denounces David Duke, KKK

By Eugene Scott, CNN
"David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
"I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK," Trump added. "Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now."
 
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Boomboom521 said:
The entire need for the BLM movement is racism. To combat racism without "racist" elements in the message, doesn't seem possible to me....but again I think logic is my problem in your eyes.
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Let me try to dissect your argument. BLM marches when a black cop kills a black criminal, so that black cop is racist?

BLM is a radical anti cop movement. Cops come in all colors. So your comment that the entire need for BLM is racism is provably false. Better brush up on your reading.
 
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Let me try to dissect your argument. BLM marches when a black cop kills a black criminal, so that black cop is racist?

BLM is a radical anti cop movement. Cops come in all colors. So your comment that the entire need for BLM is racism is provably false. Better brush up on your reading.
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It is not a anti-police movement. And BLM protesters come in all colors too my friend.
 
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I am a racist? How so? Do you always try to label people who you cannot match intellectually?
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It's fun. It's easy for a white man to say there is no need for a BLM movement. A white FBI neighbor told me he has been at bank robberies where the suspect was heavily armed, yet not a shot was fired and everybody walked away. He believes it's training, and the ending of profiling practices that is needed to address the problem. He knows more than me or you
 
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Boomboom521 said:
It's fun. It's easy for a white man to say there is no need for a BLM movement. A white FBI neighbor told me he has been at bank robberies where the suspect was heavily armed, yet not a shot was fired and everybody walked away. He believes it's training, and the ending of profiling practices that is needed to address the problem. He knows more than me or you
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Why do you assume he knows more than me? Why do you differentiate people by the color of their skin? Why am I the racist? You seem to be the racist here.
 
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WVPATX

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Boomboom521 said:
It is not a anti-police movement. And BLM protesters come in all colors too my friend.
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If you don't believe this is an anti cop movement you're simply ignoring facts. Do you know how many police officers have been assassinated recently? This is all about cops. Look at Baltimore. Look at Ferguson. My goodness, the facts are staring you right in the face.
 
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Boomboom521 said:
It's fun. It's easy for a white man to say there is no need for a BLM movement. A white FBI neighbor told me he has been at bank robberies where the suspect was heavily armed, yet not a shot was fired and everybody walked away. He believes it's training, and the ending of profiling practices that is needed to address the problem. He knows more than me or you
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.ddbb817a9b96

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html

We can always make improvements with police/civilian interactions. But the Wash Post and NY Times (Harvard study by African American professor) don't agree with the major claim of the BLM movement. Facts matter.
 
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