This is some funny Sh*t......

[bornaneer]

Washington (CNN)Bill Clinton criticized President Barack Obama's signature policy reform while on the stump for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, calling Obamacare "the craziest thing in the world." Clinton told the crowd the insurance model "doesn't make sense" and "doesn't work here." "So you've got this crazy system where all the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.

 

[Airport]

Washington (CNN)Bill Clinton criticized President Barack Obama's signature policy reform while on the stump for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, calling Obamacare "the craziest thing in the world." Clinton told the crowd the insurance model "doesn't make sense" and "doesn't work here." "So you've got this crazy system where all the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.

Who's working 60 hours a week? Not at one job.

 

[mule_eer]

Who's working 60 hours a week? Not at one job.

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

 

[WVUBRU]

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

I think he is based on this comment and others. Mindblowing.

 

[Mntneer]

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

Overtime rules do kick in for some salaried folks.

 

[WVUBRU]

The terms are Exempt and NonExempt instead of salaried and hourly. If you guys are going to discuss legitimate topics, need to have a foundation of the facts to start with.

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

Salaried folks get hosed on a regular basis. I just left a job where 70 hours a week was a break for managers and supervisors! Also, labored employees can work those kind of hours as long as they agree to it and are properly compensated. However, there are some OSHA guidelines that come into play. What my last company would do is strong arm the supervisors to strong arm the labor force to volunteer for weekend shifts; once they agree to the shift, they are obligated to show up. If we could not get enough volunteers are jobs (Salaried Managers) were threatened. I won't divulge the company, but it is a subcontractor for Boeing. After five years I told them to piss up a rope, took another position and recruited the good ones to come with me. Much happier now and have not worked a weekend since.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

Overtime rules are technically for every employee, but certain salaried people are exempted from those rules. Those exemptions change December 1. and the number of non-exempted salary workers is going up. Fast food franchise owners are thrilled <sarcasmemoji>

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

The terms are Exempt and NonExempt instead of salaried and hourly. If you guys are going to discuss legitimate topics, need to have a foundation of the facts to start with.

We stand corrected!

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

Washington (CNN)Bill Clinton criticized President Barack Obama's signature policy reform while on the stump for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, calling Obamacare "the craziest thing in the world." Clinton told the crowd the insurance model "doesn't make sense" and "doesn't work here." "So you've got this crazy system where all the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.

Looks like your OP got hijacked!

 

[eerdoc]

Washington (CNN)Bill Clinton criticized President Barack Obama's signature policy reform while on the stump for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, calling Obamacare "the craziest thing in the world." Clinton told the crowd the insurance model "doesn't make sense" and "doesn't work here." "So you've got this crazy system where all the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.

And Hillary has vowed to perpetuate it. That's even crazier to have Bill take such a stance. Goes to show the Clintons have no real conviction about anything--just say what you think the audience really wants to hear, especially if it mint generate a few more votes from the ignorant, low information folks.

 

[WVUBRU]

We stand corrected!

I don't mean to be a know it all but this is something I deal with a lot and is very complicated as with most financial theoretical discussions. Just trying to prevent a bunch of worthless bickering among some on here that think they know everything and they don't but that doesn't prevent them from posting inaccurate comments.

 

[Airport]

You aren't this detached from the real world are you? Overtime rules only count for hourly folks. Salaried folks aren't held to the same rules.

I meant in relationship to people, those that aren't working anymore, those that aren't working even 40 hours per week and those that have to work two jobs to get to maybe 35 hours per week. It was a tongue in cheek comment about how poor our economy is because of the job killing ACA and regulations. Mostly how many companies refuse to add people because of how much the ACA is going to cost said company.

 

[Airport]

I think he is based on this comment and others. Mindblowing.

I guess you meant biased. Here in the Roanoke valley, people aren't working much at all. Our economy blows here. We've lost a lot of jobs. It was more of a tongue in cheek comment on what the ACA has caused throughout the country.

 

[WVUBRU]

I guess you meant biased. Here in the Roanoke valley, people aren't working much at all. Our economy blows here. We've lost a lot of jobs. It was more of a tongue in cheek comment on what the ACA has caused throughout the country.

Still, a very untrue statement and you are simply are sheltered to the real world. There are plenty of people working in excess of 40 hours a week. Many of my clients are working 60-80 hour work weeks this time of the year.

 

[Airport]

Still, a very untrue statement and you are simply are sheltered to the real world. There are plenty of people working in excess of 40 hours a week. Many of my clients are working 60-80 hour work weeks this time of the year.

Yes, you are 100% correct. There are more people working today than ever before. People are turning down jobs to work at jobs paying twice as much. I don't know what universe you are in but it's not the real world. I imagine you are working around DC where the real world ends and make believe world begins.

 

[mneilmont]

I guess you meant biased. Here in the Roanoke valley, people aren't working much at all. Our economy blows here. We've lost a lot of jobs. It was more of a tongue in cheek comment on what the ACA has caused throughout the country.

Are HS coaches exempt employees? What about travel time? Who can provide a quick answer?

 

[mneilmont]

The terms are Exempt and NonExempt instead of salaried and hourly. If you guys are going to discuss legitimate topics, need to have a foundation of the facts to start with.

But the historical dodge has been the terminology "salaried". That has been the normal dodge of OT. That belief is still out there in industry.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Who's working 60 hours a week? Not at one job.

Huh? If I or my wife work less than 60 hours in a week it's a slow week. Price you pay for being an exempt employee vs. non-exempt (also known as salary vs hourly)

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

I don't mean to be a know it all but this is something I deal with a lot and is very complicated as with most financial theoretical discussions. Just trying to prevent a bunch of worthless bickering among some on here that think they know everything and they don't but that doesn't prevent them from posting inaccurate comments.

Yes, but you are correct and it does matter. Some years back, we had and exempt employee that we ran out of work for (was in government contracting at the time). To keep him employed, we offered him a job to build a certain product, at his regular pay,(Non exempt employee job) and he took it. After a year of doing the job, he complained to HR that he did not get OT pay, which he didn't because in the system he was exempt. Long story short, he won and got a pretty penny in back pay. Of course the company terminated him shortly after as there was no exempt work available. I think I got the story right?

 

[bornaneer]

Huh? If I or my wife work less than 60 hours in a week it's a slow week. Price you pay for being an exempt employee vs. non-exempt (also known as salary vs hourly)

I wonder how many posters on this board even put in 40 hrs a week. Lets see......20 posts a day at 6 minutes a post is about 2 hrs a day times 5 days equals about 10 hrs a week of lost production. Add 10 more hrs a week in lost for board reading plus another 10 hrs for web surfing. And thats not even including Solitaire or WordsPlay.

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

I wonder how many posters on this board even put in 40 hrs a week. Lets see......20 posts a day at 6 minutes a post is about 2 hrs a day times 5 days equals about 10 hrs a week of lost production. Add 10 more hrs a week in lost for board reading plus another 10 hrs for web surfing. And thats not even including Solitaire or WordsPlay.

Do we get extra credit for multi-tasking?

 

[Airport]

Huh? If I or my wife work less than 60 hours in a week it's a slow week. Price you pay for being an exempt employee vs. non-exempt (also known as salary vs hourly)

You work in the world around DC, right? Out here in the world outside of the cesspool called DC, we aren't working much. Sorry, but I know dentists here who don't see more than a couple of patients a day. It's really bad.

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

You work in the world around DC, right? Out here in the world outside of the cesspool called DC, we aren't working much. Sorry, but I know dentists here who don't see more than a couple of patients a day. It's really bad.

Clearly, not a West Virginia dentist!

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

You work in the world around DC, right? Out here in the world outside of the cesspool called DC, we aren't working much. Sorry, but I know dentists here who don't see more than a couple of patients a day. It's really bad.

Everywhere is the world around DC, technically....

Specifically, no, I don't work in DC, but I take your point.

 

[mneilmont]

Yes, but you are correct and it does matter. Some years back, we had and exempt employee that we ran out of work for (was in government contracting at the time). To keep him employed, we offered him a job to build a certain product, at his regular pay,(Non exempt employee job) and he took it. After a year of doing the job, he complained to HR that he did not get OT pay, which he didn't because in the system he was exempt. Long story short, he won and got a pretty penny in back pay. Of course the company terminated him shortly after as there was no exempt work available. I think I got the story right?

I had an education early in career. Had a retired AF pilot and his wife doing very basic clerical work along with a few more in the department. Old couple didn't want to do much, but I could use what they had to offer. There was a stipulation that they would come in early to drink coffee and read the paper as a convenience to avoid 8AM rush hour which was a royal pain in the ***. Clocked in at 7AM and everyone was happy. I understood because I normally got in at 7:15 to 7:30 to avoid the same rush hour myself.

One day a young man came in and introduced himself as from Dept of Labor to look at payroll. Sure, come in and have a cup of coffee, and I will find you a place to work. He sternly told me he couldn't drink coffee as it would require him to take bathroom breaks.

After he finished, he informed me that I had to pay the old couple one hour O/T for two years for drinking coffee because they were clocked in. The couple explain that it was their choice and no work was done. The auditor explained to me that I could get a lawyer to fight it. To hell with it. Cannot send good money after bad. I paid 2 years at OT rate and notified employees they could not clock in at 7 any more and they told me the job was not that good and never showed up again/

 

[Mntneer]

Overtime rules are technically for every employee, but certain salaried people are exempted from those rules. Those exemptions change December 1. and the number of non-exempted salary workers is going up. Fast food franchise owners are thrilled <sarcasmemoji>

Sat through a nice long....long.... seminar on all the changes. Fortunately won't effect us much, as most employees are hourly, but I could see some smaller businesses struggling to figure out what to do.

 

[Airport]

Clearly, not a West Virginia dentist!

Really good dentists in the area that have been busy for the entire past 30+ years are sitting now. We have been hurt. I have been hurt. People are not hiring here. People are losing great jobs here. Sad. Not funny esp with me being 62 and two kids getting ready to go to college.

 

[WVUBRU]

Really good dentists in the area that have been busy for the entire past 30+ years are sitting now. We have been hurt. I have been hurt. People are not hiring here. People are losing great jobs here. Sad. Not funny esp with me being 62 and two kids getting ready to go to college.

Sorry to hear. Sending kids to college is not fun. Been at it for years and next year I will have three in college. Brutal. But am thankful we are blessed and we are making our way through it.

 

[mneilmont]

Sorry to hear. Sending kids to college is not fun. Been at it for years and next year I will have three in college. Brutal. But am thankful we are blessed and we are making our way through it.

I was once on a pay as you go plan with 4 in college at one time. Heavy burden to bare. And it was not even necessary to reconcile bank account. But, Sr year in HS was nearly as expensive with pictures, parties, dances and travel. That was good practice for what I was about to face.

 

[Airport]

Sorry to hear. Sending kids to college is not fun. Been at it for years and next year I will have three in college. Brutal. But am thankful we are blessed and we are making our way through it.

Thanks. Three in college will be difficult. My wife insisted on our children going to the same private school that she went to. We've been doing it for 12 years already. If it gets really bad, my wife has both her kidneys![cheers]

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

I had an education early in career. Had a retired AF pilot and his wife doing very basic clerical work along with a few more in the department. Old couple didn't want to do much, but I could use what they had to offer. There was a stipulation that they would come in early to drink coffee and read the paper as a convenience to avoid 8AM rush hour which was a royal pain in the ***. Clocked in at 7AM and everyone was happy. I understood because I normally got in at 7:15 to 7:30 to avoid the same rush hour myself.

One day a young man came in and introduced himself as from Dept of Labor to look at payroll. Sure, come in and have a cup of coffee, and I will find you a place to work. He sternly told me he couldn't drink coffee as it would require him to take bathroom breaks.

After he finished, he informed me that I had to pay the old couple one hour O/T for two years for drinking coffee because they were clocked in. The couple explain that it was their choice and no work was done. The auditor explained to me that I could get a lawyer to fight it. To hell with it. Cannot send good money after bad. I paid 2 years at OT rate and notified employees they could not clock in at 7 any more and they told me the job was not that good and never showed up again/

Damned if you do and damned if you don't! Great story!

 

[AirForceer_rivals]

Really good dentists in the area that have been busy for the entire past 30+ years are sitting now. We have been hurt. I have been hurt. People are not hiring here. People are losing great jobs here. Sad. Not funny esp with me being 62 and two kids getting ready to go to college.

Just trying to add a little hillbilly humor. My bad; hope things get better for you. Things are still tough all over for sure!