Good Gawd....Even Ed Rendell gets it......

[bornaneer]

Former Gov. Ed Rendell says Donald Trump’s message on trade is largely correct, but that his tone is sometimes wrong on the subject.
Rendell, who is the chair of the Democratic convention host committee, made the comments on SiriusXM radio’s The Dean Obeidallah Show.
“The interesting thing is, I talk about China and the fact that China took advantage of us in trade and cost Pennsylvania some significant jobs, and I quoted Donald Trump in the book,” Rendell said, noting Trump backed him heavily when he ran for governor.
Rendell’s 2012 book praises Trump as “a friend” who is right on China.
“You know all that Donald Trump says isn’t wrong,” continued Rendell. We have for some reason not stood up to China. We’ve allowed them to manipulate their currency, which gives their businesses tremendous advantage in selling to America. They came in here and tried to dump low-priced, subsidized steel pipe to get rid of the steel pipe industry in the U.S.”
Rendell said he fought hard against China dumping steel in his state, but they lost many jobs in the process.

 

[WVUBRU]

Former Gov. Ed Rendell says Donald Trump’s message on trade is largely correct, but that his tone is sometimes wrong on the subject.
Rendell, who is the chair of the Democratic convention host committee, made the comments on SiriusXM radio’s The Dean Obeidallah Show.
“The interesting thing is, I talk about China and the fact that China took advantage of us in trade and cost Pennsylvania some significant jobs, and I quoted Donald Trump in the book,” Rendell said, noting Trump backed him heavily when he ran for governor.
Rendell’s 2012 book praises Trump as “a friend” who is right on China.
“You know all that Donald Trump says isn’t wrong,” continued Rendell. We have for some reason not stood up to China. We’ve allowed them to manipulate their currency, which gives their businesses tremendous advantage in selling to America. They came in here and tried to dump low-priced, subsidized steel pipe to get rid of the steel pipe industry in the U.S.”
Rendell said he fought hard against China dumping steel in his state, but they lost many jobs in the process.

What Rendell is saying is not contrary to conventional wisdom. The point of contention is what to do about it.

 

[mule_eer]

What Rendell is saying is not contrary to conventional wisdom. The point of contention is what to do about it.

The point I made a while ago was that the US is #2 in manufacturing in the world. We produce more now than we did decades ago. The jobs aren't there any more because a ton of it is automated. If we brought millions of manufacturing jobs back from China, we wouldn't add millions of jobs in manufacturing.

 

[WVUBRU]

The point I made a while ago was that the US is #2 in manufacturing in the world. We produce more now than we did decades ago. The jobs aren't there any more because a ton of it is automated. If we brought millions of manufacturing jobs back from China, we wouldn't add millions of jobs in manufacturing.

You are absolutely correct. But that is a point that doesn't win you any political points. But bitching about the situation positioning yourself as the savior and blaming the other side will win political points with the ignorant masses and is exactly what a certain candidate is doing.

 

[Mntneer]

The point I made a while ago was that the US is #2 in manufacturing in the world. We produce more now than we did decades ago. The jobs aren't there any more because a ton of it is automated. If we brought millions of manufacturing jobs back from China, we wouldn't add millions of jobs in manufacturing.

No, but you do bring ancillary services back.

 

[WVUBRU]

No, but you do bring ancillary services back.

That is true too. As with most topics, it is very complex and we tend to have politicians oversimplify and even spin into deception in order to gain political favor.

 

[dave]

The point I made a while ago was that the US is #2 in manufacturing in the world. We produce more now than we did decades ago. The jobs aren't there any more because a ton of it is automated. If we brought millions of manufacturing jobs back from China, we wouldn't add millions of jobs in manufacturing.

If the jobs are automated why do they ship the manufacturing to china and pay to ship product back?

 

[mule_eer]

If the jobs are automated why do they ship the manufacturing to china and pay to ship product back?

You could have a ton of reasons for that. Not everything is easily automated, some jobs went there decades ago when automation was more difficult or expensive, some left for more lax environmental regs. I probably haven't scratched the surface of the number of reasons.

 

[dave]

You could have a ton of reasons for that. Not everything is easily automated, some jobs went there decades ago when automation was more difficult or expensive, some left for more lax environmental regs. I probably haven't scratched the surface of the number of reasons.

so outside of automation there is no reason that jobs can't be brought back. Environmental most non-production reasons are all things that business can partner with government to remedy.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

You could have a ton of reasons for that. Not everything is easily automated, some jobs went there decades ago when automation was more difficult or expensive, some left for more lax environmental regs. I probably haven't scratched the surface of the number of reasons.

I'll sum it up for you. Cost benefit analysis.

 

[mule_eer]

I'll sum it up for you. Cost benefit analysis.

Thank you.