Good Gawd....Even Martha gets it......

[bornaneer]

Millennials are lazy, self-indulgent and lack the initiative to be successful, warns lifestyle guru Martha Stewart. Millionaire slams feckless, molly-coddled youngsters who live off the bank of mum and dad.
The millionaire lifestyle guru Martha Stewart has issued a stinging criticism of the millennial generation and claimed youngsters are too LAZY to get ahead.
Too many members of “Generation Snowflake” are still living with their parents rather than getting out into the world and making something of their lives, the celebrity businesswoman raged.
She is the latest person to rail against a mollycoddled generation who have turned universities into “safe spaces” to avoid testing their ideas in the crucible of debate and called on conference attendees to “make jazz hands” because clapping is too traumatic for their sensitive souls.

“I think every business is trying to target millennials,” she said in an interview with Luxury Listings.

“But who are millennials? Now we are finding out that they are living with their parents.

“They don’t have the initiative to go out and find a little apartment and grow a tomato plant on the terrace.

 

[op2]

I'm wary of commentary like that transforming into "These damn kids today are no good, unlike when I was young" but that said, some of the stuff that goes on on college campuses these days is insane re. safe spaces and trigger warnings and all that stuff.

 

[MountaineerWV]

First off, Martha probably hasn't "gotten it" in quite some time. Secondly, maybe she should teach this generation how to lie to federal officials when being investigated.....[thumbsup]

 

[MountaineerWV]

I'm wary of commentary like that transforming into "These damn kids today are no good, unlike when I was young" but that said, some of the stuff that goes on on college campuses these days is insane re. safe spaces and trigger warnings and all that stuff.

And it was her generation that protested more than any other generation in our history.......especially on college campuses.

 

[mule_eer]

First off, Martha probably hasn't "gotten it" in quite some time. Secondly, maybe she should teach this generation how to lie to federal officials when being investigated.....[thumbsup]

Wasn't Comey the guy who prosecuted her on those charges?

Her comments are a little stay-off-my-lawn-ish. I don't entirely disagree with her on a lot of that stuff, but I doubt she is of the first generation to question the ambition of following generations.

 

[WVUBRU]

Every generation thinks the younger generation are worthless. Been going on forever.

There are many reasons why a young adult may decide to start out living with their parents and it doesn't mean they are not positively contributing to society. Making stereotypical and blanket statements often make people look out of touch and this is a perfect example. And I'm one that likes Martha.

 

[bornaneer]

Every generation thinks the younger generation are worthless. Been going on forever.

There are many reasons why a young adult may decide to start out living with their parents and it doesn't mean they are not positively contributing to society. Making stereotypical and blanket statements often make people look out of touch and this is a perfect example. And I'm one that likes Martha.

There you go again.......changing the subject.

 

[bornaneer]

Wasn't Comey the guy who prosecuted her on those charges?

Her comments are a little stay-off-my-lawn-ish. I don't entirely disagree with her on a lot of that stuff, but I doubt she is of the first generation to question the ambition of following generations.

Why are you changing the subject.......the story was not if Comney prosecuted her. See.....we can all play the game.

 

[mule_eer]

Why are you changing the subject.......the story was not if Comney prosecuted her. See.....we can all play the game.

You obviously don't understand the flow of conversation. Besides, was there some question in the original post that I dodged?

BTW, you are refusing to answer my question about Comey. Why are you avoiding a direct question? I can play your game as well.

 

[bornaneer]

You obviously don't understand the flow of conversation. Besides, was there some question in the original post that I dodged?

BTW, you are refusing to answer my question about Comey. Why are you avoiding a direct question? I can play your game as well.

Where did I imply you dodged a question? Also, Comney or who prosecuted Martha was never mentioned in what I posted. Now its "the flow of conversation" instead of changing the subject. Just making a point......sorry if you don't comprehend. Maybe you are the "obtuse" one.

 

[dave]

First off, Martha probably hasn't "gotten it" in quite some time. Secondly, maybe she should teach this generation how to lie to federal officials when being investigated.....[thumbsup]

Good point, then all of them would be qualified to be the Democrat nominee for POTUS.

 

[mule_eer]

Where did I imply you dodged a question? Also, Comney or who prosecuted Martha was never mentioned in what I posted. Now its "the flow of conversation" instead of changing the subject. Just making a point......sorry if you don't comprehend. Maybe you are the "obtuse" one.

The question you dodged was who prosecuted Stewart for lying to investigators.

I responded to MountaineerWV's post that mentioned her crime, hence the applicability of the question about who the prosecutor was.

You are really starting to sound like my 4-year old when she doesn't get her way. Sometimes the best route in life is to admit you were wrong, and drop it. Another option is to appear childish, and, right now, that's what you are doing.

 

[Keyser76]

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft! Old farts always poo poo the next generation.

 

[op2]

This guy tells it like it is.

 

[bornaneer]

The question you dodged was who prosecuted Stewart for lying to investigators.

I responded to MountaineerWV's post that mentioned her crime, hence the applicability of the question about who the prosecutor was.

You are really starting to sound like my 4-year old when she doesn't get her way. Sometimes the best route in life is to admit you were wrong, and drop it. Another option is to appear childish, and, right now, that's what you are doing.

You need to read my original reply to you and then your reply. I never said you dodged any question. You also NEVER asked me who prosecuted Stewart.....But I'll answer the question you posed to Mountaineer WV....... I do not know who prosecuted Stewart.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Millennials are lazy, self-indulgent and lack the initiative to be successful, warns lifestyle guru Martha Stewart. Millionaire slams feckless, molly-coddled youngsters who live off the bank of mum and dad.
The millionaire lifestyle guru Martha Stewart has issued a stinging criticism of the millennial generation and claimed youngsters are too LAZY to get ahead.
Too many members of “Generation Snowflake” are still living with their parents rather than getting out into the world and making something of their lives, the celebrity businesswoman raged.
She is the latest person to rail against a mollycoddled generation who have turned universities into “safe spaces” to avoid testing their ideas in the crucible of debate and called on conference attendees to “make jazz hands” because clapping is too traumatic for their sensitive souls.

“I think every business is trying to target millennials,” she said in an interview with Luxury Listings.

“But who are millennials? Now we are finding out that they are living with their parents.

“They don’t have the initiative to go out and find a little apartment and grow a tomato plant on the terrace.

 

[op2]

I hope I don't become constantly angry as I got old but OTOH I'm realizing more and more that part of the crankiness of some old folks might just be a function of feeling bad both in terms of health and also in terms of knowing that their time is running out. Just because that's not what their directly complaining about doesn't mean that it's not the cause or part of the cause.

 

[mule_eer]

You need to read my original reply to you and then your reply. I never said you dodged any question. You also NEVER asked me who prosecuted Stewart.....But I'll answer the question you posed to Mountaineer WV....... I do not know who prosecuted Stewart.

You never said I dodged a question. That was my mistake.

See how easy that was? This is a question directed to you, BTW. Also, I stand by my comment regarding your current behavior.

Have a good'un.

 

[bornaneer]

You never said I dodged a question. That was my mistake.

See how easy that was? This is a question directed to you, BTW. Also, I stand by my comment regarding your current behavior.

Have a good'un.

You are probably right about my behavior..........but I doubt I'm the lone offender.

 

[WVUBRU]

You are probably right about my behavior..........but I doubt I'm the lone offender.

But only you can control your own behavior. So quit acting like a child.

 

[JLW71073]

I manage a couple of millennials, and I work for a company that hires a lot of millennials. They are a different for sure but it's a blanket statement that doesn't always hold true. As an example I have one that works harder than most and just got promoted for that. I have one that is borderline genius and some days, I have no idea what he is up to, but produces exceptional work. They both produce results, but in different ways. They both drive me nuts in different ways too.

 

[mule_eer]

I manage a couple of millennials, and I work for a company that hires a lot of millennials. They are a different for sure but it's a blanket statement that doesn't always hold true. As an example I have one that works harder than most and just got promoted for that. I have one that is borderline genius and some days, I have no idea what he is up to, but produces exceptional work. They both produce results, but in different ways. They both drive me nuts in different ways too.

A guy I worked with in the recent past said that the company he works for has changed recruiting methods for millennials. He said that they've had good luck bringing in employees by focusing more on the mission and less on the perks. He said that they seem to want to feel like they are working on something that is important and are less concerned about the pay they receive. I'm not sure if that's truly the case in all fields, but this guy worked in IT, and he thought they were getting good people and good work from those people.

I haven't really worked with many millennials myself. Most of my opinion is based on what I hear about the college campus rumblings about trigger warnings and the like.

 

[JLW71073]

A guy I worked with in the recent past said that the company he works for has changed recruiting methods for millennials. He said that they've had good luck bringing in employees by focusing more on the mission and less on the perks. He said that they seem to want to feel like they are working on something that is important and are less concerned about the pay they receive. I'm not sure if that's truly the case in all fields, but this guy worked in IT, and he thought they were getting good people and good work from those people.

I haven't really worked with many millennials myself. Most of my opinion is based on what I hear about the college campus rumblings about trigger warnings and the like.

I think, based on some of my experiences at work, I would probably agree the stories I read on the internet are largely true. We too have changed our recruiting methods, and other things as well. As an example, we now have bicycles to ride around on campus from one building to another. I think it's a bit silly, but that's a tool to recruit millennials. My experience is they expect to be promoted quickly, and they expect an active voice with Sr. Leadership solving large complex and strategic problems. The challenge is they typically don't have the experience to solve those problems, get frustrated when they don't get those opportunities and then leave for another role (internal or external).

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I think, based on some of my experiences at work, I would probably agree the stories I read on the internet are largely true. We too have changed our recruiting methods, and other things as well. As an example, we now have bicycles to ride around on campus from one building to another. I think it's a bit silly, but that's a tool to recruit millennials. My experience is they expect to be promoted quickly, and they expect an active voice with Sr. Leadership solving large complex and strategic problems. The challenge is they typically don't have the experience to solve those problems, get frustrated when they don't get those opportunities and then leave for another role (internal or external).

Same experience with them in my industry.