George Will Leaves the GOP . . . .
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He left the party many years ago. He has used the conservative brand to be hyper critical of republicans while sitting at a table of liberals. He has always presented himself as smart-assed(intellect) who wanted to be in the progressive wing of any party. Really wanted to be next William F Buckley Jr. Definitely could not tell a story with his funny style and right wing slant.
Funny how when someone leaves the Republican Party, the responses suddenly from the Right are "well he/she wasn't really a Republican anyway".
I'm considering switching my registration up as well. The religious right has soured me on the GOP. Outside of the gay rights and a couple of other things, the DNC isn't it either. Probably just go Independent.
I was Independent for a long, LONG time. Switched after 2004 to Democrat. But, I agree, NEITHER side seem to have it together in 2016. Somewhere, Ross Perot is saying "DAMNIT, this could have been my year!".
Let me add, I don't agree with everything Democrat. I don't support their views on the transgender policies, I really have no opinion on the gay marriage (as it doesn't effect me, my life, or family), and I really am starting to worry about what the Democrats truly think will happen to WV & KY if the EPA continues tightening its restrictions. I'm a supporter of environmental protection, and oversight, but enough is enough.
I don't know that there are many Democrats left. Pretty much just a bunch of Socialists/Progressives/Communists.
West Virginia, I believe, is full of some true Democrats. Many, many conservative Democrats in our fine state. These Socialists the Democratic party is serving up, is why Democratic candidates have been losing here lately.
After being a registered Democrat, then Republican, I'm now a registered Independent. I will vote for the candidate who defends our Constitution the most.
This one world order that progressives/socialists/communists are trying to push our country into will kill the freedom our Constitution promises. Our forefathers along with all others, who have fought and died defending our Constitution, will have died in vain. Our freedom is fading. Hopefully Americans all over will soon unite again and refuse to be brainwashed by the idiots running our country.
West Virginia, I believe, is full of some true Democrats. Many, many conservative Democrats in our fine state. These Socialists the Democratic party is serving up, is why Democratic candidates have been losing here lately.
After being a registered Democrat, then Republican, I'm now a registered Independent. I will vote for the candidate who defends our Constitution the most.
This one world order that progressives/socialists/communists are trying to push our country into will kill the freedom our Constitution promises. Our forefathers along with all others, who have fought and died defending our Constitution, will have died in vain. Our freedom is fading. Hopefully Americans all over will soon unite again and refuse to be brainwashed by the idiots running our country.
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"...acting more like children than children..." Publicity stunt? Temper tantrum? A scream for a return to the attention platform he once seemed to enjoy? To me, he is spiraling downward toward a fiery crash. Kind of sad, isn't it?
Even funnier is that we see the SAME type response from you and others when a Dem goes Repub.......simply hilarious.
Nope.....you can never say that about me. Maybe others. Usually when someone switches parties in politics, I'm saying they did it for political GAIN and being opportunistic. I don't use the "well they never were" claim......but nice try.
Changing party affiliation means practically nothing. We all can vote in any general election for who we want. Voting for an Independant in a general election is a wasted vote. I am a Repub who has voted MANY times for a Democrat. I would NEVER waste my vote.
Maybe not you. Can you agree that it does happen? If you know that its a common thing on BOTH sides, why did you even bring it up? That was about as good as my "nice try".
George Will is one of the biggest egotistical blowhard on the planet. In addition, I find almost all his opinions whether it is politics or baseball to be nothing but verbal diarea. However, I said here weeks ago that I can't see conservatives with half a brain signing up for the Trump trainwreck and then being able to have any integrity left once the election is over. There is another article about the Trump campaign can't get leading conservative strategists working on their behalf and the reason is simply being concerned with their reputation after Trump being the absolute worst political candidate in history and not representing the values in which many on the right believe in.
What is the difference in the General? Are General elections not "open" to whichever candidate you prefer to cast your vote for?
Primary is different in different states. Some states are "closed" to party affiliation. Some sates allow crossover ballot in primary. I have participated in two different rules in the "open" primary. Following General may "open" also. Other states restrict General ballot must maintain party affiliation ballot to be consistent in primary and general.
Primary is different in different states. Some states are "closed" to party affiliation. Some sates allow crossover ballot in primary. I have participated in two different rules in the "open" primary. Following General may "open" also. Other states restrict General ballot must maintain party affiliation ballot to be consistent in primary and general.
It's starting to happen. Trumps candidacy is proof that people are tired of the globalist politicians doing what is in the best interest for them and people outside of the country.
Bernie and Trumps candidacies are proof that there are a lot of fvcking morons in this country. Hillary's candidacy proves people on the left have no ethical standards.
Not sure if it is a result of morons or at least in Trumps case a result of serious displeasure with everyone in DC and simply the path we are on and he was the only anti establishment guy.
Cmon dude, you've heard his supporters speak. Hell, you've heard Trump speak. The man has zero substance or plan. But, at least he isn't a felon.
I am not defending him or trying to speak to the logic of his supporters. I just dont think people care. They dont see the establishment as honest or having substance and they dont see the establishment representing them so they overlook the faults of the anti establishment and follow the populism.
Disagree with lumping Bernie with Trump. Bernie has substance behind his commentary. Don't agree on many of his policies are right for the US but there is at least something there. His supporters are very well educated on the talking points and support the policies. Trump has basically no substance to anything. Everything he talks about is either unconstitutional, impossible to do or just downright stupid. His supporters are just loving that he is raising hell. Most of them have no clue on the ability to achieve anything he is spewing. The ones that have a clue but supporting Trump realize the fact that it is impossible but are just supporting him due to the political blindness and hatred of either Hillary, the DNC or anything that may criticize their right wing beliefs.
Are you saying that Hillary supporters are not "fvcking morons"? I beg to differ. I would say they are far worse; they are "fvcking morons" with no ethical standards.
Looking back at my post I can see I wasn't clear. There is a definite distinction between Trump supporters and Bernie supporters. Trump people by in large are your yeeee hawwww low information voter. No argument there.
Bernie people are your academic type voter. The myopic "in theory" this seems like a good idea and should work voter. Your occupy Wall Street crowd. The sitting around Starbucks talking through the merits of a gluten free diet. Basically hipsters. They don't understand how the world really works or acknowledge that most people when given the choice between good and bad, with bad meaning more money, will choose bad everytime. So, they are morons in their own right; but definitely different than the Trump crowd.
That aside, as a person, I like Bernie. He seems like a man of character, a man of principles, and generally honest. On those merits alone I could vote for him. However, the majority of his policies are pie in the sky and goes against almost everything I believe in fiscally.
Thanks for the clarification. I fully agree with everything, not that matters. But it is a well stated opinion in which I believe is very accurate.
A third party vote is only a wasted vote as long as people buy into that idea. Johnson is on every state ballot, and 60% of people polled view both Clinton and Trump negatively. Over 40% of the electorate is registered as independents, more than are registered in either party. The numbers are there this year if people realize that the 2 parties only hold a monopoly because we allow them to hold a monopoly.
Johnson has about as much chance as winning any election as I do of getting a "like" from you......never going to happen. A third party vote has a 99.5 % chance of being a wasted vote.
Again, it's only wasted as long as we let that opinion dominate the electorate. Over half of the voting public don't care for either major party candidate. Hopefully those people at least look at other options. It would make sense. I liken it to the car buying public. Several decades ago, very few people purchased Japanese cars. The American car companies had a shared monopoly until they squandered it. Same could be said of the Korean car companies. They have a pretty large share of the market now, and that's partly due to the arrogance of the established brands in the market.
DvlDog, you are giving the American public way too much credit. Every candidate has their fair sharing of uneducated voters. The larger the turnout, the more you get. You can listen to Trump supporters, Hillary supporters, Bernie Supporters, Obama supporters in 2008 and 2012 and see several instances of really ignorant people. If Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Martin OMalley, etc were the candidates today they would still have a **** ton of low information voters, the only difference is that they would have a much smaller turnout of low information voters.
Educated on talking points, but that's all many of them appear to be educated on. Frustration support from the left like Trump's frustration support from the right.
A strong 3rd party showing by the Libertarian party could set the stage for future electoral success. It usually takes many years to build a party. Voting for someone that you don't like just because he has an R or D next to his name is a wasted vote as well.
Bernie's ideas are completely insane, but he doesn't say a word in public without thinking his idea through. Trump has Taurette's and says whatever, then backtracks, then blames media for missquoting.
That's why I left the GOP in 1980. I went to the State Republican convention and realized the inmates were running the asylum.
I remember hearing a speaker calling for the jailing of gay men getting a huge round of applause, and thought, "Yep, throw a bunch of guys who like to have sex with other men in an institution full of horny young guys. That'll teach 'em." I've been a Democrat since. You can't reason with minds that engage in that sort of backwards logic.
Mussolini did the same thing re; jailing gays. He put them on islands off the Italian coast. It turned the island prisons into the only openly gay societies in Europe at the time. Many still draw gay tourists, who pay to see the prisons and enjoy the beaches. If the speakers plan had worked out, maybe the old prison at Moundsville would be one of the largest gay tourist attractions in the East?
Nah, the Moose was Churchill's buddy. They used to get their scalps polished at the same body shop.
President Franklin Roosevelt expressed admiration for the Italian leader, and sent him cordial letters. In June 1933, Roosevelt praised Mussolini in a letter to an American envoy: “... I am much interested and deeply impressed by what he has accomplished and by his evidenced honest purpose of restoring Italy and seeking to prevent general European trouble.” In another letter a few weeks later, the President wrote: “I don't mind telling you in confidence that I am keeping in fairly close touch with the admirable Italian gentleman.”
In '33 FDR was looking at everything under the sun to get America out from under the crash decades of unregulated laissez -faire capitalism had caused. That he looked at Italy is no secret. He looked everywhere, as he realized an unfettered free market is both a danger and a fraud. That doesn't make FDR and Mussolini "pals", that argument disingenuous at best and specious at worst.
The realization FDR and men around him made about the unregulated free market and it's true nature, is the same realization the public has made today, and is causing the current economic turmoil in the world.
Why are you dodging Churchill's relationship with the Moose? Italy was practically Churchill's home away from home during his wilderness years. They knew each other well.
The realization FDR and men around him made about the unregulated free market and it's true nature, is the same realization the public has made today, and is causing the current economic turmoil in the world.
Why are you dodging Churchill's relationship with the Moose? Italy was practically Churchill's home away from home during his wilderness years. They knew each other well.
You mean like trying to tie your comment about your 1980 convention experience to all Republicans?