Interesting change afoot with Trump

bamaEER

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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/world-leaders-react-trump-presidency/index.html

Washington (CNN)It is not only the Republican establishment confronting the once-unthinkable reality that Donald Trump is the presumptive GOP presidential nominee.

World leaders who previously dismissed and ridiculed the former reality TV star also are adjusting to a new normal.
Yeah, it's truly embarrassing, but that's not the worst part. Just imagine if he actually did become president and had all that control over the most powerful military in the world. The man who said he'd make Mexico pay for the wall, take out terrorist families, then bomb and take over ISIS controlled oil fields in Iraq. Having that much control should scare the hell out of all of us.
 

rog1187

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Yeah, it's truly embarrassing, but that's not the worst part. Just imagine if he actually did become president and had all that control over the most powerful military in the world. The man who said he'd make Mexico pay for the wall, take out terrorist families, then bomb and take over ISIS controlled oil fields in Iraq. Having that much control should scare the hell out of all of us.
Do you really think he would be able to do all of that on his own?
 

bamaEER

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Do you really think he would be able to do all of that on his own?
We shouldn't have to worry about whether a candidate's threats are possible. The very fact that he leads with threats rather than diplomacy illustrates his kneejerk bully tactic tendencies. We don't need this when dealing with the Middle East, or Russia, or China or anywhere else.
 

Keyser76

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Lol, And as big an idiot as Trump is, you still don't hear voters on the left worrying that he is going to "destroy" America like Obama was supposed to. Do those fools not wonder why the scare tactics they use on the rubes never come true? When the f*ck is Obama supposed to come for my guns here in WV?
 

WhiteTailEER

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Yeah, it's truly embarrassing, but that's not the worst part. Just imagine if he actually did become president and had all that control over the most powerful military in the world. The man who said he'd make Mexico pay for the wall, take out terrorist families, then bomb and take over ISIS controlled oil fields in Iraq. Having that much control should scare the hell out of all of us.

There have been a few military leaders that have said that they will not follow some of those orders if they are given.
 

TarHeelEer

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Lol, And as big an idiot as Trump is, you still don't hear voters on the left worrying that he is going to "destroy" America like Obama was supposed to. Do those fools not wonder why the scare tactics they use on the rubes never come true? When the f*ck is Obama supposed to come for my guns here in WV?

Borderless world = US destroyed
 

rog1187

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We shouldn't have to worry about whether a candidate's threats are possible. The very fact that he leads with threats rather than diplomacy illustrates his kneejerk bully tactic tendencies. We don't need this when dealing with the Middle East, or Russia, or China or anywhere else.
Our we could have Hillary who didn't answer the 3am call and Americans died as a result...pick your poison.
 

Popeer

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Our we could have Hillary who didn't answer the 3am call and Americans died as a result...pick your poison.
And the ******** band plays on. Benghazi becomes the new Obamacare. Sixty-some votes and counting to repeal Obamacare, dozens of hearings and some $20 million spent on investigations that have turned up nothing new. You'd think after running your heads into the wall that many times you'd give up out of sheer exhaustion.
 

rog1187

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And the ******** band plays on. Benghazi becomes the new Obamacare. Sixty-some votes and counting to repeal Obamacare, dozens of hearings and some $20 million spent on investigations that have turned up nothing new. You'd think after running your heads into the wall that many times you'd give up out of sheer exhaustion.
Yep - what difference does it make right?
 
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When the f*ck is Obama supposed to come for my guns here in WV?

He (Obama) announced some details of his plan on yesterday. On November 8, 2016, he is coming after all the Republicans' guns. He has warrants to enter homes, even if no one is at home at the time. It is recommended that all Republicans stay home and defend their 2nd Amendment right.
 

mneilmont

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And the ******** band plays on. Benghazi becomes the new Obamacare. Sixty-some votes and counting to repeal Obamacare, dozens of hearings and some $20 million spent on investigations that have turned up nothing new. You'd think after running your heads into the wall that many times you'd give up out of sheer exhaustion.
And the predicted costs of Obamacare is just starting to materialize. It was a sham from the gitgo. The 20million is going to be a drop in the old bucket if we never reverse the Exec Privilege. Unfortunately it looks like it may stay with us. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

Obamacare has been kicked around so much, we forget the initial purpose - everyone insured at lower cost. Miserable failure on either objective, and the supporters refuse to admit it was a ruse to start with.
 

bamaEER

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Obamacare has been kicked around so much, we forget the initial purpose - everyone insured at lower cost. Miserable failure on either objective, and the supporters refuse to admit it was a ruse to start with.
That was never true. It was about minimizing the rise in the long term.
 

mneilmont

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That was never true. It was about minimizing the rise in the long term.
That is absolutely true. Your memory is no better than your ability to predict Trump would be the last one standing. You said he would be gone before Thanksgiving(last year).

Obama did predict that it would affect care in the long term. That appears to be an accurate prediction, but in a negative way. Long term it has not provided for maintaining the Dr of your choice. Prediction of fewer Drs in the future. Definitely a limitation on those facilities that accept medicare. It did shorten the life of financing for medicare when millions were transferred from medicare to Obamacare for start-up.

The original offered reason for Obamacare was to cover all at a reduced cost.
 

Airport

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That was never true. It was about minimizing the rise in the long term.

When has govt ever done anything that came at a reduced cost from it's initial prediction? Never. The one thing that is predictable with govt involvement, somebody is going to get screwed because govts lie. The CBO makes predictions on what the govt lies to it about. We are going to have 5% growth so what will our outlays be? We have 1% growth. The congress and executive branch gives the CBO obviously incorrect assumptions not based on reality. We still have the same number of people uninsured and costs have gone up 3 times what was predicted. Wait till after Obama leaves and the **** really starts hitting the fan that was delayed by them, Obama admin, because it would show everybody how wrong they, Obama admin, were in their assumptions.
 

Popeer

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Yep - what difference does it make right?
What difference does what make? Does it really matter why the terrorists attacked that CIA compound with the ambassador and Sean Smith inside, or dropped mortars on the CIA compound that killed the other two former SEALs? Idiots in the House can look until they die of old age, but they won't find a message from Hillary or Obama to Ansar al Sharia saying "kill our people", and that's what they're looking for.
 

rog1187

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What difference does what make? Does it really matter why the terrorists attacked that CIA compound with the ambassador and Sean Smith inside, or dropped mortars on the CIA compound that killed the other two former SEALs? Idiots in the House can look until they die of old age, but they won't find a message from Hillary or Obama to Ansar al Sharia saying "kill our people", and that's what they're looking for.
If it doesn't matter, then why did Obama and Hillary say it was as a result of a YouTube video...really??? a YouTube video AYFS?
 

mneilmont

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, but they won't find a message from Hillary or Obama to Ansar al Sharia saying "kill our people", and that's what they're looking for
Who are the "they" that will only accept that narrow finding you allude to? Are you attempting to be a bit dismissive of the Administration? I follow no reasoning that would lead you to that conclusion.
 
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