This 8 person Supreme Court is working out pretty well....

[RichardPeterJohnson]

4-4 tie = win for public unions. Wingnuts better get used to the shift that's coming on the court. Once Obama or Hillary (with a Democratic majority in the senate) gets their nominee on the court, we'll be back to 5-4 good guys. In other news, Hillary will likely get to nominate at least one Supreme in her first term. Thomas isn't looking too good. How's 6-3 sound? Plus Ginsberg won't retire until Hillary can name her replacement locking in another non-wingnut for a generation. Times changing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/u...ion-union-fees-supreme-court-ruling.html?_r=0

 

[Airport]

4-4 tie = win for public unions. Wingnuts better get used to the shift that's coming on the court. Once Obama or Hillary (with a Democratic majority in the senate) gets their nominee on the court, we'll be back to 5-4 good guys. In other news, Hillary will likely get to nominate at least one Supreme in her first term. Thomas isn't looking too good. How's 6-3 sound? Plus Ginsberg won't retire until Hillary can name her replacement locking in another non-wingnut for a generation. Times changing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/u...ion-union-fees-supreme-court-ruling.html?_r=0

There's a couple of these coming up where it will benefit the conservatives. You could be entirely right about Hiliary except that the national polls are misleading in that the repubs don't run a national campaign. admitting they can't win Ca, NY and Illinois where Hiliary gets a huge % of the vote. They compete in the other states which are much more closer. Ohio, Va, NC and Fl and a handful of other states. The guy said the Repubs run an electoral college campaign and that's there only hope.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

There's a couple of these coming up where it will benefit the conservatives. You could be entirely right about Hiliary except that the national polls are misleading in that the repubs don't run a national campaign. admitting they can't win Ca, NY and Illinois where Hiliary gets a huge % of the vote. They compete in the other states which are much more closer. Ohio, Va, NC and Fl and a handful of other states. The guy said the Repubs run an electoral college campaign and that's there only hope.

Why run a national campaign? It's pointless as is popular vote. There really are only 10 states or so in play that determine the election.

OH, FL, PA, NC, WV, WI, MI, VA; likely AZ this election.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Why run a national campaign? It's pointless as is popular vote. There really are only 10 states or so in play that determine the election.

OH, FL, PA, NC, WV, WI, MI, VA; likely AZ this election.

In what universe is WV in play?

 

[Airport]

Why run a national campaign? It's pointless as is popular vote. There really are only 10 states or so in play that determine the election.

OH, FL, PA, NC, WV, WI, MI, VA; likely AZ this election.

I was listening to Ed Rollins, I always find his comments to the point, talk about how the national polls don't mean anything since Hiliary gets such a big lead there. he said exactly what you said. I think he included NC. What do you think of a campaign ad for the Repubs where they say,"Who do want to answer the phone at 3 AM?" And then the phone rings and that dog, in Hilliary;s voice starts barking? I think it would be hilarious.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

In what universe is WV in play?

It used to be a rather significant battleground state. I understand it's been red since 2000.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

You need to add CA (55), NY (29) and TX (38) (if we're talking electoral vote).

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

You need to add CA (55), NY (29) and TX (38) (if we're talking electoral vote).

None of those 3 are in play. CA and NY are D and TX is R. Neither candidate barely needs to campaign in those states to win.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

It used to be a rather significant battleground state. I understand it's been red since 2000.

Trump will get our 5 votes by 20% The Dems have been meanies to coal and he promised to save em.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Trump will get our 5 votes by 20% The Dems have been meanies to coal and he promised to save em.

RichRod would get the 5 votes if he ran on the Republican ticket.

But Country said at the state level it was going back blue? You think that's possible? I don't see it, but I also don't live there anymore or follow much at the local and state level.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

RichRod would get the 5 votes if he ran on the Republican ticket.

But Country said at the state level it was going back blue? You think that's possible? I don't see it, but I also don't live there anymore or follow much at the local and state level.

I don't follow it enough to care, but I would guess that it would naturally pull back to blue some.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

I could be wrong, but my impression is the state legislature has a lot of people mad over this last session. They ended the session without passing a budget and the budget is in the red. They spent a lot of time passing important legislation like non-pasteurized milk, making discrimination legal, trying to force WVU to play Marshall, etc. and didn't spend much time on the budget. Only time will tell.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

But Country said at the state level it was going back blue? You think that's possible? I don't see it, but I also don't live there anymore or follow much at the local and state level.

It's hard to say, but it wouldn't surprise me. The republican legislature came in and passed RTW and tried the RFRA, but then didn't address the budget and there's going to be a pretty substantial PEIA shortfall, they cut the education budget. They've tried to push issues that favor the extraction (fracking) industry but hurt everybody else.

Will any of that effect how people vote? Who knows? I know there are a lot of people pissed at the attention things like RFRA got while they pretty much ignored the budget.

 

[RichardPeterJohnson]

I was listening to Ed Rollins, I always find his comments to the point, talk about how the national polls don't mean anything since Hiliary gets such a big lead there. he said exactly what you said. I think he included NC. What do you think of a campaign ad for the Repubs where they say,"Who do want to answer the phone at 3 AM?" And then the phone rings and that dog, in Hilliary;s voice starts barking? I think it would be hilarious.

I read Rollin's book, Bare Knuckles, 20 years ago. He's a smart guy and he's spot on. But the demographics are really bad for the gop. As unpopular as Fox news wants us to think Obama is/was, he beat Romney like a drum in both the electoral and popular votes. Hillary, as unpopular as Fox news wants her to be, easily beats Trump in the national polls but she is also ahead of him in swing states like NC, Michigan, OH, FL.....Hell, Clinton is tied with trump in AZ and is beating Trump in Utah. The math doesn't add up for the GOP in either the electoral college or popular vote. You people have hitched your wagon to the wrong horse which shouldn't surprise anyone. Crackpots don't think rationally.

 

[mofo]

i wouldn't slurp Hillary, as much
as you feel you need to...

Democratics hate the military, hate fosell fuels (coal)..
hating the military has residual technology impact, not just military ..

.Obama dismantled NASA, farming space exploration to private firms...maybe that was a good idea, but over 10,000 support contractors lost their jobs in CCBeach area and Cape Canaveral

Hillary and Democrat's isn't as pure or righteous like they claim....

they love federal debt. ..forcing inferstructure (roads, bridges) expenditures to state and local governments which are additionally cash strapped and poor. ..

not to mention the arrogance and stupidity of having her Internet server in her basement. ..compromising every classified email...

depends what's you definition of "is is"?

 

[dave]

It's hard to say, but it wouldn't surprise me. The republican legislature came in and passed RTW and tried the RFRA, but then didn't address the budget and there's going to be a pretty substantial PEIA shortfall, they cut the education budget. They've tried to push issues that favor the extraction (fracking) industry but hurt everybody else.

The one bill I know was in the legislature that involved O&G surely didn't do that.

 

[BigLickMountee]

4-4 tie = win for public unions. Wingnuts better get used to the shift that's coming on the court. Once Obama or Hillary (with a Democratic majority in the senate) gets their nominee on the court, we'll be back to 5-4 good guys. In other news, Hillary will likely get to nominate at least one Supreme in her first term. Thomas isn't looking too good. How's 6-3 sound? Plus Ginsberg won't retire until Hillary can name her replacement locking in another non-wingnut for a generation. Times changing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/u...ion-union-fees-supreme-court-ruling.html?_r=0

what issues would you like a 6-3 court to legislate? I am not sure much would literally change if there was a 6-3 conservative court including overturning RvW. Too much is set in motion.

 

[Airport]

I read Rollin's book, Bare Knuckles, 20 years ago. He's a smart guy and he's spot on. But the demographics are really bad for the gop. As unpopular as Fox news wants us to think Obama is/was, he beat Romney like a drum in both the electoral and popular votes. Hillary, as unpopular as Fox news wants her to be, easily beats Trump in the national polls but she is also ahead of him in swing states like NC, Michigan, OH, FL.....Hell, Clinton is tied with trump in AZ and is beating Trump in Utah. The math doesn't add up for the GOP in either the electoral college or popular vote. You people have hitched your wagon to the wrong horse which shouldn't surprise anyone. Crackpots don't think rationally.

When you call us crackpot, I would remind you that Obama has refused to acknowledge what is wrong with islam and to refuse to call it radical Islam. Only two things are in play there
1. He is Islamic
2.He hates all things American except the money to make him rich

yes, the demographics are bad for the GOP.We don't promise to make it so you don't have to work. We don't tell you that you aren't responsible for your actions. I never said I was for trump.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

The one bill I know was in the legislature that involved O&G surely didn't do that.

Forced pooling (thank God it died).

 

[dave]

Forced pooling (thank God it died).

Forced pooling is already law. The legislation in Charleston cleared up some of current laws and was very favorable to landowners. I am sure they didnt tell you that on facebook.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Forced pooling is already law. The legislation in Charleston cleared up some of current laws and was very favorable to landowners. I am sure they didnt tell you that on facebook.

Forced pooling is NOT law. and forced pooling is not favorable to landowners. They almost passed a law allowing gas companies to build roads and platforms PRIOR to getting permits. The WVDEP stepped in at the last minute a kept that from becoming law. Do you have any clue about anything you talk about?

 

[dave]

4-4 tie = win for public unions. Wingnuts better get used to the shift that's coming on the court. Once Obama or Hillary (with a Democratic majority in the senate) gets their nominee on the court, we'll be back to 5-4 good guys. In other news, Hillary will likely get to nominate at least one Supreme in her first term. Thomas isn't looking too good. How's 6-3 sound? Plus Ginsberg won't retire until Hillary can name her replacement locking in another non-wingnut for a generation. Times changing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/u...ion-union-fees-supreme-court-ruling.html?_r=0

A huge win for workers. Well not so much but a huge win for union bosses and those the kick back to.

 

[dave]

Forced pooling is NOT law. and forced pooling is not favorable to landowners. They almost passed a law allowing gas companies to build roads and platforms PRIOR to getting permits. The WVDEP stepped in at the last minute a kept that from becoming law. Do you have any clue about anything you talk about?

There is absolutely forced pooling in WV for Utica formations and the new law would guarantee landowners more royalties.

Getting a permit in WV to build a road or a pad is pretty easy now. They dont stop you as long as there are no stream/wetland issues and an engineer seals it. It wouldnt matter if they started before or after the permit. It is a formality.

You should know what you are talking about.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Forced pooling is already law. The legislation in Charleston cleared up some of current laws and was very favorable to landowners. I am sure they didnt tell you that on facebook.

How would you say it's favorable to landowners?
The way I understand it, one of the legislators negotiated royalties for himself and then forced a lower royalty on landowners. IMO the royalty is irrelevant, the landowner should be able to choose whether or not these things are extracted from their property.

Although, I also don't know how they could. If it's being done on adjacent property and the pocket of oil or gas is huge, it would be taken anyway. It would be like trying to take water from only one end of a pool and leaving the rest.

I recall other things in which the companies aren't being held accountable for environmental impacts, although I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head. Something in Doddridge county comes to mind, but I could be wrong about that.

I will submit that you would know a lot more about this stuff than I do.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

How would you say it's favorable to landowners?
The way I understand it, one of the legislators negotiated royalties for himself and then forced a lower royalty on landowners. IMO the royalty is irrelevant, the landowner should be able to choose whether or not these things are extracted from their property.

Although, I also don't know how they could. If it's being done on adjacent property and the pocket of oil or gas is huge, it would be taken anyway. It would be like trying to take water from only one end of a pool and leaving the rest.

I recall other things in which the companies aren't being held accountable for environmental impacts, although I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head. Something in Doddridge county comes to mind, but I could be wrong about that.

I will submit that you would know a lot more about this stuff than I do.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Are they both compensated?

 

[bornaneer]

How would you say it's favorable to landowners?
The way I understand it, one of the legislators negotiated royalties for himself and then forced a lower royalty on landowners. IMO the royalty is irrelevant, the landowner should be able to choose whether or not these things are extracted from their property.

Although, I also don't know how they could. If it's being done on adjacent property and the pocket of oil or gas is huge, it would be taken anyway. It would be like trying to take water from only one end of a pool and leaving the rest.

I recall other things in which the companies aren't being held accountable for environmental impacts, although I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head. Something in Doddridge county comes to mind, but I could be wrong about that.

I will submit that you would know a lot more about this stuff than I do.

I had a lease with a gas company. In the contract they offered they were going to pay me on 1/6th of the gas they pulled from 3 proposed wells on our property. I would not agree to the 1/6th deal and countered with I would only agree with 100%. They caved and we did a contract.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

I had a lease with a gas company. In the contract they offered they were going to pay me on 1/6th of the gas they pulled from 3 proposed wells on our property. I would not agree to the 1/6th deal and countered with I would only agree with 100%. They caved and we did a contract.

I have a cousin that I rarely talk to that has a business with his dad that helps people negotiate with the oil and gas companies the way you have.

With forced pooling, that option is taken away from the landowner, is it not?

 

[bornaneer]

I have a cousin that I rarely talk to that has a business with his dad that helps people negotiate with the oil and gas companies the way you have.

With forced pooling, that option is taken away from the landowner, is it not?

I would say yes. I sold the property a few years ago after the 5 yr contract expired. I also inserted a clause into the contact that took away the right of the gas company to auto renew the contract.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

Are they both compensated?

No, Daniel Plainview keeps it all. Then he beat the younger dude to death with a bowling pin and said, "I'm finished." Roll credits. My bad, spoiler alert.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

No, Daniel Plainview keeps it all. Then he beat the younger dude to death with a bowling pin and said, "I'm finished." Roll credits. My bad, spoiler alert.

I'm an oil man, and this is my son.

Was not a fan of that movie.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I'm an oil man, and this is my son.

Was not a fan of that movie.

Clearly you are a terrible human being. Good day.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Clearly you are a terrible human being. Good day.

Solid analysis IMO. Would read again.

 

[mule_eer]

I'm an oil man, and this is my son.

Was not a fan of that movie.

I think I would have appreciated it more if it hadn't been hyped as the greatest movie ever. It was a solid story and well acted. I'm not going to sit through it again, but I didn't feel like it was a waste of my time.

 

[WVUCOOPER]

I think I would have appreciated it more if it hadn't been hyped as the greatest movie ever. It was a solid story and well acted. I'm not going to sit through it again, but I didn't feel like it was a waste of my time.

Maybe it wasn't the greatest movie ever, but I'm pretty sure it's considered the best of that decade based on aggregate lists.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I think I would have appreciated it more if it hadn't been hyped as the greatest movie ever. It was a solid story and well acted. I'm not going to sit through it again, but I didn't feel like it was a waste of my time.

This is where I'm at.

 

[mule_eer]

Maybe it wasn't the greatest movie ever, but I'm pretty sure it's considered the best of that decade based on aggregate lists.

Not possible since it came out in the same decade as Rocky Balboa ... and Rambo.

Honestly, I would never choose it over V for Vendetta or The Departed or Gran Torino - all the same decade. I'd have to go to a list of movies from the oughts to name more, but off the top of my head those are far better movies than There Will Be Blood. For viewing enjoyment, I'd keep the Stallone movies too. I understand not including them in a critically acclaimed list.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Not possible since it came out in the same decade as Rocky Balboa ... and Rambo.

Honestly, I would never choose it over V for Vendetta or The Departed or Gran Torino - all the same decade. I'd have to go to a list of movies from the oughts to name more, but off the top of my head those are far better movies than There Will Be Blood. For viewing enjoyment, I'd keep the Stallone movies too. I understand not including them in a critically acclaimed list.

Don't forget No Country for Old Men. V for Vendetta is definitely up there.

There Will be Blood is nowhere close to something like Shawshank, Jaws, Hunt for Red October, basically movies I will watch every time I see them on TV. I don't even think its Daniel Day Lewis's best work. I think Last of Mohicans and Gangs of New York were far superior movies.

 

[WhiteTailEER]

Don't forget No Country for Old Men. V for Vendetta is definitely up there.

There Will be Blood is nowhere close to something like Shawshank, Jaws, Hunt for Red October, basically movies I will watch every time I see them on TV. I don't even think its Daniel Day Lewis's best work. I think Last of Mohicans and Gangs of New York were far superior movies.

A list of a bunch overpretentious tripe ... Yellowbeard is a cinematic masterpiece, I don't care what anybody says

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

A list of a bunch overpretentious tripe ... Yellowbeard is a cinematic masterpiece, I don't care what anybody says

You are dead to me.