Is it true that Ditka never even made the comment while on air at ESPN? I was under the assumption he said it while on at ESPN. If that is true, it is very alarming.
ESPN sileneces Ditka
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Is it true that Ditka never even made the comment while on air at ESPN? I was under the assumption he said it while on at ESPN. If that is true, it is very alarming.
They don't owe Ditka a thing, but ESPN has a history of tolerating speech way more divisive. Hell, they brought back Olberman for a couple years after he spent years on MSNBC blasting Republicans and Bush, which was clearly their right. This just reeks of political censorship, political correctness and is frankly kinda sad.
See the link I posted in the thread. He made the comment on a non-ESPN radio interview. I'll make it absurd to make a point, do you think that ESPN would retain Ditka if he made speeches and did media interviews on behalf of the KKK in his spare time? Answer, no. He made media comments that they didn't like so much so he got reprimanded for it. If ESPN is cramping his style, he can quit his job, he doesn't have to work there.
I'd imagine it all comes down to damage control. ESPN may have simply responded to an alarming number of angry viewers.
Come on... don't try and use a such a comparison. Honestly. [eyeroll]
The first I heard about it was on the board, and then Googling the story didn't return any sense of public outrage over the comments.
First, I have never been a fan of Ditka......Second, it is the right of ESPN to demote him if they like. My main point is that it is very hypocritical of ESPN of what they allow and disallow. I would hope they would not allow their politics to sway their decisions. Again, they have every right to do what they want.
I said it was absurd but the point is that if you're in the media, you can still get in trouble with your employer from comments made elsewhere off the clock.
This probably has more to do with Ditka than it does about liberals being meanies to conservatives about their views. Schilling said Hillary should be buried under a jail or something and got nothing more than a memo and a lecture. More muchado about nothing.
Cry me a river. Ditka effed up. He works for someone selling a product and his employer felt like what Ditka said might be bad for business. This is free enterprise that the right always preaches adjusting. Once thing I've learned over time as a small business owner is not getting sucked into a political discussion with a patient. I get patients prying for my political beliefs fairly regularly and I refuse to engage. Why would I want to potentially piss off half of my patient base? the same applies with ESPN.
I have no idea what precipitated his removal, but ESPN has every right to do so if they feel his presence potentially taints ESPN's product. This is business.
Same here, but we don't employ public figures who can't always avoid political comments and discussions.
I fully belief in the free market and free enterprise, but pansy *** ********, like this reaction to what Ditka said, bottles my mind.
You kidding? I blame Obama every chance I get. It's a get out of jail free card.
Exactly! When I lived in Auburn, a new dentist had just opened a new practice. He was retired ARMY and decided to get into private practice. My dentist at the time as always way overbooked and I couldn't ever get appts quickly so I went to the new guy. I walked into the waiting room and Rush Limbaugh was on the radio. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.
Absolutely stupid business move on his part.
Unreal. That is a perfect example what what i said earlier....they think everyone agrees with them and shout it out as loudly as they can that they are a right wing whacko.
Thats funny.......especially since you like RPJ choose to live solid neck and kkk country. No wonder you two are so miserable. Did you ever consider it was a smart move on the part of the dentist......after all....10 for 1 is better then 1 for 10. [banana]
"When one ARE" plural, do you use a singular verb? When one is plural, is that cold day in hell we hear about. Are you the person who has the position referred to by the Dog? You attempt to proffer your self as a person in position of strength - then you come here and suggest you are THE person to set the parameters of discussion and tell us right from wrong. The only thing of strength you offer is when you are caught in stupidity, you are smart enough to reset the parameters and state strongly you have held that position forever. Just an observation. Nothing intended as personal.
As opposed to the Chicks? Hell yes, they were as much intended to be so as much as Jane Fonda's position and the statements themselves.
What I learned in this thread is there are very few actual personnel managers on this board who have had to deal with HR and In-house counsel on a routine basis. All of the scenarios being listed by the left leaning members of our board are all scenarios anyone in a large publicly traded company is told they cannot enforce on an individual. My guess is 1 of 2 things. They demoted him but will stay pay his salary/contract providing he doesn't sue them or he will sue them and it will be settled quietly out of court.
[laughing]
Here's how simple it will go if it goes to litigation: Counsel for ESPN says "Ditka, being a recognized employee of ESPN, made public comments that were reflective of them (ESPN) as an organization without their consent. Furthermore, those comments were damaging to their brand/image. Furthermore, those comments were in direct violation of a directive recently issued to not make public political comments."
Pretty easy.
Should have shot him on the spot. What kind of pansie assed country is this anyway?
I wonder if they have basis due to some clause in his contract - like the Sanity Clause. No, can't be. There is no Sanity Clause.
Try the veal. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
1. Ditka is in a protected class due to his age. If he received a demotion was it within company policy for reprimand and consistent with previous events?
2. Was this demotion in retaliation for the event or previous events?
3. A company cannot infringe on an individual's right to speech providing it is not discriminatory, racist, or sexist. Speech to and including social media is protected and a company may not censor that.
4. Is the act of demoting him discriminatory for a political view?
As a company you can always get around these things but they hold true nonetheless.
I'll give a story, I had one of my employees shitting on one of our customers and our company via Facebook. The customer sent us the Facebook posts and asked WTF? I took it HR to fire the individual. Not only was I told I could not, I was told I couldn't even say anything to him and nor could anyone else on that location.
Fvcked up world the lawyers and liberals created for themselves to deal with now.
Dog, you know that knowledge in the subject area is never prerequisite to enter a discussion with firm convictions on this site. The last test I had for MBA was in this area. Never heeded what I retained. Too confusing in most cases and jury writes the law as they go. Never got into litigation that was too complicated. Won a few and lost a few. Just don't take the decisions as personal or it could aggravate the hell out of you.