I'm beginning to think Hillary isn't going to make it
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Feel the Bern!
I like Bernie.....but I have to curb my enthusiasm. It's only one primary (NH). I have suspected for a while the media biasing the polling numbers just a little bit in favor of Hillary. They had her winning Iowa, it ended up being a dead heat. They had her making a comeback in NH this weekend and Bernie is winning by 20%.
I like Bernie.....but I have to curb my enthusiasm. It's only one primary (NH). I have suspected for a while the media biasing the polling numbers just a little bit in favor of Hillary. They had her winning Iowa, it ended up being a dead heat. They had her making a comeback in NH this weekend and Bernie is winning by 20%.
Maybe you should get some rest tonight.......this doesn't sound like you. PS.....Bernie has NO chance.
Bernie has an awesome chance, he'll be running against Trump. [laughing]
Have I ever said I liked Hillary?
No......I was ribbing you about the bolded underlined sentence. The only way Hillary is not the nominee is if Biden gets in. Do you actually think Bernie can beat Clinton in most of the upcoming primaries? Mark this down; Trump will be the next POTUS if its him against Hillary or Bernie.......not so if he goes against Biden.
You've made it clear many times that you erroneously think Trump will beat the Democratic nominee and I've shown you proof otherwise. America isn't that stupid. And yes, I think Bernie will beat Hillary.
The Democrats will never let a Socialists run. As dumb as they are, their not that far gone. Worst candidates ever in the history of politics. If anyone is stupid enough to believe what a Socialist says you have rocks for brains. Socialism has never worked in any nation since it was instituted thousands of years ago. What a choice
Bill is waiting for the campaign to move South. There will be just a bit more color involved and Hillary will have a cake walk and Bill will have an audience that will have more appreciation of his first black president..
Honestly, as much as disagree with Bernie, I would accept him over Hillary on just principle.
I'll leave you with this, the moderates are currently split between Hillary and the establishment guys. Let's call Cruz and Bern as the left and right lateral limits. If Bern is the nominee, the mods currently with Hill will more than likely gravitate to the more moderate candidate in Trump, which he is compared to Bern. I know what the current polls are saying, but they aren't reflecting realtity right now as I consider them slanted with most thinking Hillary is the most likely Dem candidate. If she loses to Bern, all bets are off.
Tally the votes of NH. Add Bern and 2/3rds of Hills. Add all of the GOP and a 1/3rd of Hills. Who wins?
Disagree. N.H. was a good win for Trump and Bernie. Bernie has issues nationwide whereas indications are Trump does not. Of course anything can happen but I believe it is foolish to make more out of this one primary than what it is.
Yea, it's really early. I heard that Paul Tsongas beat Bill Clinton in NH, so this probably doesn't mean too much. Still, Trump won decidedly and the guy I want got buried by him. I'm not gonna have anyone in this election.
Bernie has no chance. What we have to date is a state with a effed up process where HC still won and another state which is an outlier who went with their adopted son. Don't get me wrong, I actually like Bernie more than HC. But I predict that HC will squeak by in Nevada and win by a landslide in SC. Then we move on to Super Tuesday where she'll win ever state except Vermont. Then the tide shifts and bernie will be relegated to the background.
I have recognized I have no one in the primaries for months. I will not vote for any GOP candidates in the general as I have fundamental differences with all. But I can live with Bush or Kasich if they are fortunate enough to win. I sure won't spend everyday disparaging them just for the sport of hatred as we have seen with Obama for 7 years.
Exactly how i feel. I was glad to see Rubio tank yesterday. That guy is no substance. he's a robot. Everything he says is rehearsed. he can't think on his feet. he doesn't belong up there and it is telling that the "establishment" of the GOP seemed to have thrown in with him. He's awful. Makes Dan Quayle look like Winston Churchill.
Will have a much better feel after SC and SEC votes. I expect Trump and Hillary to be looking strong after those to poll dates. Bernie may be able to survive if he is generating the level of contributions that are being reported.
I really thought Kasich would have done better, but it's pretty apparent the GOP voters are more interested in reality TV antics.
Exactly. To me, the office requires dignity. Trump has zero dignity. Cruz has no dignity. Christie has very little. I referred to the "eye test" not long ago and dignity is part of it. Jeb has it. Kasich too. Hillary and Bernie do. It seems GOP voters (white trash evangelicals) have gone the way of favoring the most outrageous candidate.
NH has a bit of a history of bucking the establishment, I think it's a little bit ingrained in who they are. I would have been shocked if Hillary won NH and someone other than Trump. I think it's also likely why Kasich did well. I don't think Bern can win SC and I can see Bush gaining some momentum in the Southern swing enough so to keep him plugging.
On the Republican side, no candidate that didn't finish in the top 2 in NH went on to win the White House since the 40's.
On the Democratic side, Hillary didn't just lost, she got hammered. She won't get beat as badly in many other states, but losing like she did does not bode well for her.
I thought he did pretty well. He has a big problem going forward. Whoever on Repub side gets the nod, they had better draft JK for VP slot post haste. Ohio is probably an absolute need for the General
I think the best I can hope for is when Trump wins the nomination (and I think he's going to) he'll pick Kasich as his VP choice.
Christie, Fiorina and Carson should drop out of the race today.
Carson is reported to have enough money to sustain a couple more weeks, and he really needs to see if he gets any traction in the South - don't expect it. See Christie tossing in towel in favor of Trump prior to next debate - uninvited.
That's a difficult pill to swallow. Kasich on a ticket with Trump is still a ticket with Trump.
But if that's the choice between electing Trump or Hillary... it's a pill many may have to swallow.
I think you are wrong. I think many repubs won't show up. Some may actually cast a secret ballot for HC. Trump is a joke. Like Jesse Ventura's election to governor of Minnesota except Jesse didn't have the means to invade anyone.
Ladies and gentlemen, that is the voice of an individual who thinks he displays a degree of intelligence on this board. He even suggests he has the mental capacity to be critical of other people. His quote should be saved as validation when he is critical of anyone. Who says this board is not for entertainment value only?
I've said before and I'll say until November that if Donald Trump is the GOP candidate, no Democrat and very few independents are going to vote for him. I can't believe anyone with a functioning brain cell would even consider putting him in the White House. He's not "moderate" compared to anyone else currently in the race. He's even more extreme than Cruz, and that's saying something.
I would like a lifetime supply of those pills. Beats prednisone for a pick-me-up..
The established GOP has certainly made it clear that Trump isn't one of them.
I took the field in the Dem Primary, he has Hillary. I think the stakes were entrance fee for a tailgate party at the Fed this fall.
I would like to believe that, but I have the feeling there's a pile of Dems not excited about Bernie and Hillary. This is the weakest Dem race I can remember. It's certainly the weakest GOP race as well and given Trump's lead, it's apparent the GOP voters are functioning at an all-time low.
I have a bet with Bru, but I will have to rely on him to tell me if I can still win. Or has he already lost?