NIL changes coming

phoenix4nu

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Starting a separate thread on this.

If the House settlement is approved following a court hearing on April 7, NIL as it exists today will change. Schools will be allowed to provide money directly to student-athletes through revenue sharing, with an annual cap of $20.5 million. Third parties who are “associated entities or individuals” (certain boosters and all collectives) will be allowed to provide NIL money to a student-athlete only for the actual business use of the student-athlete's name, image or likeness, and only at fair market value rates. Student-athletes will be required to disclose all NIL deals with third parties that are greater than $600. If the NIL deal is with a booster or collective, an entity will determine whether the amount paid exceeds fair market value. If it does, the NIL deal would be void, but could be renegotiated to a fair market value rate. A student-athlete would be able to appeal the decision through a neutral arbitration system.

This means that if the settlement is approved, big boosters and collectives would not be able to fund “pay-for-play” NIL deals, as they do now.

According to the Sports Illustrated article linked below, the Power 4 conferences have agreed to create a separate entity that would serve the following functions:

“First, it will oversee a cap management system, ensuring schools stay within the $20.5 million annual revenue-sharing limit. It will additionally establish an NIL clearinghouse, run by Deloitte, to assess the fair market value of NIL deals and prevent schools from using booster-backed collectives to bypass the cap. A new investigative and infractions unit will police violations, including tampering and salary cap circumvention. Penalties will include fines, revenue-share reductions, and suspensions for coaches and administrators. The power conferences believe this structure will prevent the chaos and unchecked spending wars that have defined the NIL era thus far.”

SI: Power Conferences to Take Over NIL Oversight as NCAA Forfeits Control

More details are provided here:
 
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HuskerAlum92

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Fair market value? You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. That is your fair market value. Try to void my contract and I am suing your ***.

Enforcement? I’ll believe it when I see it.
 

Big bo fan

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Fair market value? You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. That is your fair market value. Try to void my contract and I am suing your ***.

Enforcement? I’ll believe it when I see it.
I take fair market value as what other players similar positions ranking etc.. are making.
 

king_kong_

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Fair market value? You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. That is your fair market value. Try to void my contract and I am suing your ***.

Enforcement? I’ll believe it when I see it.
this is typical "good in theory" legalize

wake me up when we have a CFB Player's Union and Greg Sankey (or whomever) is named College Football Commissioner

only then will meaningful, sustainable change take place
 

Harry Caray

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So back to paying players under the table? You really think anyone in the SEC would get penalized for cheating?
 

rgrachek

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Starting a separate thread on this.

If the House settlement is approved following a court hearing on April 7, NIL as it exists today will change. Schools will be allowed to provide money directly to student-athletes through revenue sharing, with an annual cap of $20.5 million. Third parties who are “associated entities or individuals” (certain boosters and all collectives) will be allowed to provide NIL money to a student-athlete only for the actual business use of the student-athlete's name, image or likeness, and only at fair market value rates. Student-athletes will be required to disclose all NIL deals with third parties that are greater than $600. If the NIL deal is with a booster or collective, an entity will determine whether the amount paid exceeds fair market value. If it does, the NIL deal would be void, but could be renegotiated to a fair market value rate. A student-athlete would be able to appeal the decision through a neutral arbitration system.

This means that if the settlement is approved, big boosters and collectives would not be able to fund “pay-for-play” NIL deals, as they do now.

According to the Sports Illustrated article linked below, the Power 4 conferences have agreed to create a separate entity that would serve the following functions:

“First, it will oversee a cap management system, ensuring schools stay within the $20.5 million annual revenue-sharing limit. It will additionally establish an NIL clearinghouse, run by Deloitte, to assess the fair market value of NIL deals and prevent schools from using booster-backed collectives to bypass the cap. A new investigative and infractions unit will police violations, including tampering and salary cap circumvention. Penalties will include fines, revenue-share reductions, and suspensions for coaches and administrators. The power conferences believe this structure will prevent the chaos and unchecked spending wars that have defined the NIL era thus far.”

SI: Power Conferences to Take Over NIL Oversight as NCAA Forfeits Control

More details are provided here:

Yeah, until some player finds a lawyer and sues the NCAA again for things not being unlimited. Then they'll cave again. There is no way to establish fair market value for a NIL deal because the popularity of the players is highly variable. Dylan Raiola endorsing a product demands more money than a 3rd string OL.
 

cornhead1

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The NFL is not unlimited for team spending...why should college football be allowed to have no ceiling for team totals?
 

MuskyHawk16

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What are the actual steps in forming a players union and why would the players ever want to form one when they have the unlimited NIL model currently in place? Who has the authority to establish something like that?
 

schuele

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The NFL is not unlimited for team spending...why should college football be allowed to have no ceiling for team totals?
The NFL imposed a salary cap as part of collective bargaining agreement, on which the players' union signed off. It wasn't mandated by anyone outside of the league.
 

king_kong_

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What are the actual steps in forming a players union and why would the players ever want to form one when they have the unlimited NIL model currently in place? Who has the authority to establish something like that?
For one, it would guarantee a minimum comp/benefits package for all players, which doesn’t exist today

Players have attempted to unionize multiple times already
 
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For one, it would guarantee a minimum comp/benefits package for all players, which doesn’t exist today

Players have attempted to unionize multiple times already
I think having a designated pool of money, that is to be distributed by the school, would help in getting a union established. In those other attempts to unionize, the players weren't receiving actual compensation from the school, it was from 3rd parties.
 

salsa red

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Before this happens I'd like to see (for pure chaos) a ultra wealthy booster at a no name school like Montana or Nevada outspend everyone on NIL and have a top ranked class and make the playoffs.
 

huskat

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The NFL is not unlimited for team spending...why should college football be allowed to have no ceiling for team totals?
The NFL does not cap how much money a player can earn from endorsements, only his salary paid by the team.
 

Harry Caray

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The NFL does not cap how much money a player can earn from endorsements, only his salary paid by the team.

That's what I'm wondering....what is going to stop Phil Knight from giving big Nike endorsements to 5-star recruits? Is this clearinghouse going to decide how much that Nike can give to them?
 

V-Doub

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This seems well intended and (on paper) and it’s a positive step forward, I guess. But more needs to be done to regulate and enforce fair NIL policies. This seems like a half measure that really doesn’t rein anything in and/or create any substantial change.
 

huskat

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That's what I'm wondering....what is going to stop Phil Knight from giving big Nike endorsements to 5-star recruits? Is this clearinghouse going to decide how much that Nike can give to them?
That won't fly in court.
 

Dean Pope

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Fair market value? You are worth what someone is willing to pay you. That is your fair market value. Try to void my contract and I am suing your ***.

Enforcement? I’ll believe it when I see it.
I took it as an attempt to get rid of buying players. There's a difference between someone doing a commercial for a car dealership and a kid from the SEC being given $2 million to do nothing. But yeah, I am sure that lawyers will be standing in line ready to sue.
 
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I took it as an attempt to get rid of buying players. There's a difference between someone doing a commercial for a car dealership and a kid from the SEC being given $2 million to do nothing. But yeah, I am sure that lawyers will be standing in line ready to sue.
There really is no difference. NIL is so poorly thought out. Want to give a kid a few hundred grand? Have him give you a few signed pics and *boom* it’s an NIL transaction. Repeat that several times and you hit the $2M figure. No lawsuits required.
 

Dean Pope

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There really is no difference. NIL is so poorly thought out. Want to give a kid a few hundred grand? Have him give you a few signed pics and *boom* it’s an NIL transaction. Repeat that several times and you hit the $2M figure. No lawsuits required.
That is indeed how it can work. But to me the idea that the NIL "market" is going to be whatever people are willing to pay doesn't fit with this, because it's so painfully obvious that the money given is for playing football specifically for that one team and much of the time kids aren't doing anything to "earn" that NIL money on the side.
 

V-Doub

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What? Am I understanding this correctly? They put tiny trevor alberts, Benedict alberts, in charge of implementing the new “profit sharing” ruling from the courts? As in for the entire NCAA? Not just aTm…? He can ruin aTm sports all he wants but if this is what I think it is… Yikes.
 

Mrs.Jeans15

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When are the schools going to their share of players NIL?

They are using their name and logos to market themselves to make a profit. If they didn't attend these schools and get free marketing on TV using those schools, we wouldn't care who they were.

The schools deserve compensation too.
 
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When are the schools going to their share of players NIL?

They are using their name and logos to market themselves to make a profit. If they didn't attend these schools and get free marketing on TV using those schools, we wouldn't care who they were.

The schools deserve compensation too.
The billions of dollars in revenue is their compensation.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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When are the schools going to their share of players NIL?

They are using their name and logos to market themselves to make a profit. If they didn't attend these schools and get free marketing on TV using those schools, we wouldn't care who they were.

The schools deserve compensation too.
Man, I like the way you think. Take something and turn it upside down and inside out and shake it to see what falls out.

In this case though, I think most Universities receive their own endowment funds via alumni gifts and what not, so I'm not sure I could make a case for the University sharing in the players NIL, but it's a worthy exercise that I wish more people would do to look at things from different angles.

edit: I am sure there are people getting a slice of the NIL funds along the way, but ofc that is kept quiet.