Skill positions

king_kong_

Redshirt
Nov 3, 2021
24,413
4
0
If we can just keep Dana, the sky is the limit for this group:


having the nation's only (or one of very few) true frosh Day 1 starters helps this average.

alas, Nebraska Football is Fun Again*!

*as long as Dana is here
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
having the nation's only (or one of very few) true frosh Day 1 starters helps this average.

alas, Nebraska Football is Fun Again*!

*as long as Dana is here
Bolded. I've been thinking of this. IF/When DH moves on, does Rhule's rolodex come up with someone comparable, or a Satt clone? Things that make you go hmmmmm.
 

HUSKERBILL_rivals382595

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2001
1,501
1,602
0
having the nation's only (or one of very few) true frosh Day 1 starters helps this average.

alas, Nebraska Football is Fun Again*!

*as long as Dana is here
Of course. But Barney’s production and our soph RBs are equally responsible.

I’m guessing we lead by a large margin over second place.
 

Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,507
20,870
113
2 4th or 5th year starting wr's. Junior TE's. Freshman qb. Freshman slot. Sophomore rbs. I wouldn't call us super young but we aren't old.

Freshman QB, two So RB's and leading receiver a Fr, obviously help the numbers. In hindsight, would have been nice to just roll with Lloyd at WR snstead of Neyor, who hasn't produced much and will now be gone.
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
2 4th or 5th year starting wr's. Junior TE's. Freshman qb. Freshman slot. Sophomore rbs. I wouldn't call us super young but we aren't old.
Skill positions, def not old. Oline, def old/experienced. I've maintained that Donovan can't be accurately judged as an Oline coach until he has three years with HIS recruits. I know some Oline coaches have come in and immediately turned about mediocre lines, but is that always apples to apples? This current line has two games to show what it's got.
 

Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,507
20,870
113
Bolded. I've been thinking of this. IF/When DH moves on, does Rhule's rolodex come up with someone comparable, or a Satt clone? Things that make you go hmmmmm.

My glass-half-full thought is Rhule has learned a very good lesson and will use his connections, reputation, and Nebraska's pocketbook to get a proven, big-time OC when that time comes. My biggest fear is he has McGuire learn under DH and just gives him the reins when DH leaves. Time will tell, I guess.
 

RBigredMax

Redshirt
Mar 23, 2023
4,700
2
0
Bolded. I've been thinking of this. IF/When DH moves on, does Rhule's rolodex come up with someone comparable, or a Satt clone? Things that make you go hmmmmm.
We should be one of the more attractive jobs with the culture, the young weapons and the difference DH was able to make in such a short time. If there is an up and comer out there that wants to be head coaching material the next 3 years have the potential to launch the lucky OC into a lot of convos.
 

king_kong_

Redshirt
Nov 3, 2021
24,413
4
0
Bolded. I've been thinking of this. IF/When DH moves on, does Rhule's rolodex come up with someone comparable, or a Satt clone? Things that make you go hmmmmm.
hopefully we get a season or 2 before we have to find out.
 

HUSKERBILL_rivals382595

All-Conference
Sep 10, 2001
1,501
1,602
0
Will be interesting to see what happens with McGuire. Would be easy for him to take an OC position at another smaller school after being WR coach at Nebraska.

Wouldn’t surprise me if that happened
 

king_kong_

Redshirt
Nov 3, 2021
24,413
4
0
Skill positions, def not old. Oline, def old/experienced. I've maintained that Donovan can't be accurately judged as an Oline coach until he has three years with HIS recruits. I know some Oline coaches have come in and immediately turned about mediocre lines, but is that always apples to apples? This current line has two games to show what it's got.
3 years with HIS recruits means you're not going to judge him until after he's been here for 4 years (following the '25 season).

because he, of course, didn't sign a single kid in his first year on the job.

maybe that's fair.
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
Is Whipple available or is he still on crutches?

Mark Whipple's Bio, Net Worth, Wife, Cancer, Children, Career, Contracts and Salary



I'll just show myself out.
 

BleedRed78

Redshirt
Oct 22, 2019
3,466
0
0
Freshman QB, two So RB's and leading receiver a Fr, obviously help the numbers. In hindsight, would have been nice to just roll with Lloyd at WR snstead of Neyor, who hasn't produced much and will now be gone.
Banks or Neyor... Who's been better/worse?
 

Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,507
20,870
113
Banks or Neyor... Who's been better/worse?

Maybe it is recency bais, since he played well on Saturday, but Banks seems more consistent and is a more willing blocker. Neyor has more speed and had a big game in the opener, but just hasn't been what we have needed. Hope they both show up big on Friday.
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
3 years with HIS recruits means you're not going to judge him until after he's been here for 4 years (following the '25 season).

because he, of course, didn't sign a single kid in his first year on the job.

maybe that's fair.
I get what you're saying, I really do, and I think that while the line has improved in pass pro, it sucks balls in the run game. Part of my point is that in two games DH has game planned/raised hell with all the offense, and the line has looked better since he arrived. It's too early to tell if his presence on the team and his play calling has improved the line. But if the line looks really good the next two games (and this is the point I was trying to make) then you could argue that the mediocre line play was due to Satt's game plan and in-game play calling, not Donovan's coaching.
 

king_kong_

Redshirt
Nov 3, 2021
24,413
4
0
I get what you're saying, I really do, and I think that while the line has improved in pass pro, it sucks balls in the run game. Part of my point is that in two games DH has game planned/raised hell with all the offense, and the line has looked better since he arrived. It's too early to tell if his presence on the team and his play calling has improved the line. But if the line looks really good the next two games (and this is the point I was trying to make) then you could argue that the mediocre line play was due to Satt's game plan and in-game play calling, not Donovan's coaching.
Holgorsen has given Uncle Don's line a ton of much needed help

I can't remember the last time we ran as many 2 TE sets as we did on Saturday

hell, we even ran a jumbo set on the goal line featuring not one but 2 DL in the backfield.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
having the nation's only (or one of very few) true frosh Day 1 starters helps this average.

alas, Nebraska Football is Fun Again*!

*as long as Dana is here
One could argue that maybe there’s a lot of guys out there who could make it fun other than Satt.
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
Holgorsen has given Uncle Don's line a ton of much needed help

I can't remember the last time we ran as many 2 TE sets as we did on Saturday
And pre-season we were treated with all sorts of promises of two TE sets, sometimes four. Dust in the wind.
 

Laner2

Senior
Dec 27, 2007
18,967
900
113
well, yea.

that's like saying one can argue temperature is important when cooking.
You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero ***** about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are able to report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
 

king_kong_

Redshirt
Nov 3, 2021
24,413
4
0
You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero ***** about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
this is why I believe Troy Dannen might be our very own General von Steuben.

look him up, kids!
 

Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,507
20,870
113
Will be interesting to see what happens with McGuire. Would be easy for him to take an OC position at another smaller school after being WR coach at Nebraska.

Wouldn’t surprise me if that happened

I could see it. Rhule sees a very bright future with McGuire, and he's probably right. I'm sure he will be a D-I HC someday, but his moving on might just be best for both parties right now.
 

realHuskerDrew

All-Conference
Jun 12, 2001
13,138
3,690
81
2 4th or 5th year starting wr's. Junior TE's. Freshman qb. Freshman slot. Sophomore rbs. I wouldn't call us super young but we aren't old.
For next season, the TE group will have Flint and Ingwerson added to the mix. WRs will hopefully add Bell from his injuries, along with Hall, McMorris, Lloyd, Keelan, Jacory, plus maybe a portal WR or two.
I do like the potential, especially if we keep Holgorsen.

after the bowl game the primary focus should be in retaining DH and giving him whatever he wants. Frankly, we can’t afford to lose him… as some have mentioned, I don’t know if we will get so lucky the next time around
 

RBigredMax

Redshirt
Mar 23, 2023
4,700
2
0
You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero ***** about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are able to report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
Me thinks that may be changing in January.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
I could see it. Rhule sees a very bright future with McGuire, and he's probably right. I'm sure he will be a D-I HC someday, but his moving on might just be best for both parties right now.
IF Dana stays, it will be his decision. Right now though the way things looked Saturday I'm fine with standing pat. Friday is a big test for our offense. Your OC makes all the difference in the world to your position coaches.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
You want a scary corollary?

Satt did not seem to be a ball-buster with his offense. A baby boomer comes in who gives zero ***** about anyone's feelings, and BOOM! instant improvement.

Here's the corollary that should scare all of us: in the military basic training DI's would scream, insult and harass recruits to make them willing to charge up a hill under fire. Not now. In basic/boot, the recruits are able to report a DI who is demeaning to them, and the DI gets counseled and told to back off. God help us all.
Satt is a really good dude. He's not a good play caller. I have no doubt that he's a very bright guy that knows more football than any of us, but he failed as our OC.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2021
9,805
2,137
113
My glass-half-full thought is Rhule has learned a very good lesson and will use his connections, reputation, and Nebraska's pocketbook to get a proven, big-time OC when that time comes. My biggest fear is he has McGuire learn under DH and just gives him the reins when DH leaves. Time will tell, I guess.
**** no He can't even get his own position group to perform without a babysitter
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
**** no He can't even get his own position group to perform without a babysitter
It sounds like he's a good recruiter. He obviously was inexperienced but maybe the babysitter has taught him more in 3 weeks than he had learned in his previous 24 years. It isn't rocket science and the guy is a smart young guy. IF Dana keeps him, that says a lot.
 

Red Express

All-Conference
Aug 11, 2018
3,323
4,485
113
Banks or Neyor... Who's been better/worse?
Neyor had he got screwed as the very tip of his left foot grazed the turf before going back up. The good thing was 2 plays later was pretty much the same pass was completed to Banks in the back of the EZ. Those 2 passes that Dylan threw were money shots!
 

Truewooper

Senior
Jun 1, 2022
1,524
560
113
My glass-half-full thought is Rhule has learned a very good lesson and will use his connections, reputation, and Nebraska's pocketbook to get a proven, big-time OC when that time comes. My biggest fear is he has McGuire learn under DH and just gives him the reins when DH leaves. Time will tell, I guess.
I have more faith that McGuire can learn to be a good OC. Than Satt.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2021
9,805
2,137
113
yep.

nice to finally see it in game 23.

better late than never!
For a "finesse" offensive attack, Dana has introduced a lot of physicality in the attack. I.E. Dowdell on the goal line with a couple of other big bodies and two tight ends.

You won't find any of us old timers that have a problem with physically beating the hell out of teams on the football field. Over the years, we've been witness to how it impacts an opponent AND the mindset the offensive team begins to adopt.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2021
9,805
2,137
113
For next season, the TE group will have Flint and Ingwerson added to the mix. WRs will hopefully add Bell from his injuries, along with Hall, McMorris, Lloyd, Keelan, Jacory, plus maybe a portal WR or two.
I do like the potential, especially if we keep Holgorsen.

after the bowl game the primary focus should be in retaining DH and giving him whatever he wants. Frankly, we can’t afford to lose him… as some have mentioned, I don’t know if we will get so lucky the next time around
DH constantly pumping out Top Ten Offensive units year after year is no accident.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2021
9,805
2,137
113
It sounds like he's a good recruiter. He obviously was inexperienced but maybe the babysitter has taught him more in 3 weeks than he had learned in his previous 24 years. It isn't rocket science and the guy is a smart young guy. IF Dana keeps him, that says a lot.
Usually you would babysit the GA's, not the position coach.