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As far as I can tell, with the current roster + incoming recruits we are at 171 players. We have 16 players who will have exhausted their eligibility, so that means we will need around 50 players to enter the portal and/or be processed. And this is before adding any players from the portal, so we could be looking at 60+ players leaving the prgram.

Going to be a wild off-season
 
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wonder how we stack up with programs around the country in terms of roster size
 
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headcard said:
As far as I can tell, with the current roster + incoming recruits we are at 171 players. We have 16 players who will have exhausted their eligibility, so that means we will need around 50 players to enter the portal and/or be processed. And this is before adding any players from the portal, so we could be looking at 60+ players leaving the prgram.

Going to be a wild off-season
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Rhule said29-30 will walk on Saturday for senior day. The cut number is closer to 35 . Still a lot . And yes it’s going to be a difficult task. A lot of kids are going to be out off football IMO because everyone had this problem.
 
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Who would be grandfathered in?
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It would make more sense to say it has to be 105 in 4 years and any current walk ons are allowed to finish 4 years since they committed to these schools over other opportunities not knowing this was gping to happen.

This screws tons of athletes. What a crock of ****.
 
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so what. all of the sudden you are gonna have 50 people you just say sorry. NCAA says **** you. bye bye. seems about right. feel bad for em.
 
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king_kong_ said:
tall task

wonder how we stack up with programs around the country in terms of roster size
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The problem is all teams have the same issue and with everyone with the roster limit. Some of These kids will, well just be out of football.
 
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Is the walk-on concept officially dead then? That's BS, can't believe there wasn't more hell raised about this.
 
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Big bo fan said:
The problem is all teams have the same issue and with everyone with the roster limit. Some of These kids will, well just be out of football.
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I believe we have the largest roster in all of CFB.


That was part of Rhule's plan. Use NIL to get a ton of quality walk-ons (I don't love it personally, but I get it). Goin to have to adjust now, big time.
 
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headcard said:
As far as I can tell, with the current roster + incoming recruits we are at 171 players. We have 16 players who will have exhausted their eligibility, so that means we will need around 50 players to enter the portal and/or be processed. And this is before adding any players from the portal, so we could be looking at 60+ players leaving the prgram.

Going to be a wild off-season
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College football is dead
 
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oldjar07 said:
Is the walk-on concept officially dead then? That's BS, can't believe there wasn't more hell raised about this.
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Probably for the P5 . Now the
G5 like Ohio and N. Illinois type the will have walkons because they can’t afford 105 scholarships.
 
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I believe we have the largest roster in all of CFB.
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Believe it or not Scott Frost was the one that resurrected are walk-on program that was gutted by Callahan. When Riley left there was roughly 130 players on the roster and within a couple years Frost had it over 150, tipping his cap to the Osborne era no doubt.
 
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Big bo fan said:
Rhule said29-30 will walk on Saturday for senior day. The cut number is closer to 35 . Still a lot . And yes it’s going to be a difficult task. A lot of kids are going to be out off football IMO because everyone had this problem.
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This is going to cost hundreds of kids the chance to have college paid for by NIL support. There's going to be a lot of high schoolers who would have had a shot at a scholarship at the D2 level to end up at lower levels as those D1 kids flood FCS and D2 programs.
 
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As far as I can tell, with the current roster + incoming recruits we are at 171 players. We have 16 players who will have exhausted their eligibility, so that means we will need around 50 players to enter the portal and/or be processed. And this is before adding any players from the portal, so we could be looking at 60+ players leaving the prgram.

Going to be a wild off-season
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College football is dead
 
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dinglefritz said:
This is going to cost hundreds of kids the chance to have college paid for by NIL support. There's going to be a lot of high schoolers who would have had a shot at a scholarship at the D2 level to end up at lower levels as those D1 kids flood FCS and D2 programs.
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Exactly right it’s going to funnel down to lower levels.
 
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How do we go from the NCAA can’t enforce anything to this?
 
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This is going to be a good thing for Nebraska football. Nebraska needs to be focused in every respect, and I don't believe there is any way to efficiently coach a roster of 150+ players. Guys who could be "developed" are getting lost in the shuffle. I guarantee multiple points this season Rhule has thought "damn, I forgot about that guy" or maybe even "who the hell is this guy?" Sure, we might lose a few guys who could have eventually contributed, but that will be more than offset by focusing on a smaller number and getting them the reps and coaching that is so critical. I'm glad the NCAA is making a decision that we're too dumb to make ourselves.
 
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This is going to be a good thing for Nebraska football. Nebraska needs to be focused in every respect, and I don't believe there is any way to efficiently coach a roster of 150+ players. Guys who could be "developed" are getting lost in the shuffle. I guarantee multiple points this season Rhule has thought "damn, I forgot about that guy" or maybe even "who the hell is this guy?" Sure, we might lose a few guys who could have eventually contributed, but that will be more than offset by focusing on a smaller number and getting them the reps and coaching that is so critical. I'm glad the NCAA is making a decision that we're too dumb to make ourselves.
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I tend to agree. Didn't love the use of NIL funds to put walk-on's on scholarship either, could open a substantial amount of money.
 
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This might be an ok thing for some of these walkon's that gave up a scholly somewhere else to simply be a Husker or Sooner or whatever. Go get your school paid for and have a chance to really contribute at a level that is suitable for you. The whole clinging to what use to be is silly.

We had a RB a few years back that walked on. Worked out for him from a job/connection standpoint but he could have been a really good D2 player. Lots of kids miss opportunities chasing a dream that only works out for a small % of kids.
 
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king_kong_ said:
this isn't the NCAA, it's the American Judicial System.

the NCAA has fought all of this every step of the way for years and lost/settled.
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How and why is it the AJS? Clarify! Not calling you out. Genuinely curious and don't want to look it up.
 
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The 1-AA schools will start having better footballl with a bunch of guys who just can’t cut it at top level but are still pretty good.

I see this whole situation as gaining 20 scholarships spots. But Rhule better freaking do his job and move on the dead weight. With a 105 total cap you cannot keep dead weight on the roster
 
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And by the way, this whole scholarship limit thing for this season was a fvcking joke anyway… we have 97 guys that show up on the scholarship distribution chart
How many other schools are the same way.
 
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cavalot said:
How and why is it the AJS? Clarify! Not calling you out. Genuinely curious and don't want to look it up.
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short answer is the Supreme Court found the NCAA in violation of federal antitrust and labor laws by disallowing collegiate athletes to earn money while participating in sports.

these are good, quick articles to digest:


sports.yahoo.com

Sources: NCAA to increase scholarships for sports, with football getting roster limit of 105 players

As part of the new revenue-sharing model, by-sport scholarship restrictions will be eliminated, and schools are permitted to offer scholarships to the entirety of their rosters.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com
 
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Here is a quick toss out of some guys I question will ever do anything in the future, we can start with them:
Alvano
Bretz
Rollins
Ervin
Teddy P
Hood
Tagaloa
Stenger
Rogers
Turner
Doss
Ives

Plus, guys I felt might be reaches:
Taylor
Guthrie
Peters


So, we could easily have plenty of room
 
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HuskerDrew said:
Here is a quick toss out of some guys I question will ever do anything in the future, we can start with them:
Alvano
Bretz
Rollins
Ervin
Teddy P
Hood
Tagaloa
Stenger
Rogers
Turner
Doss
Ives

Plus, guys I felt might be reaches:
Taylor
Guthrie
Peters


So, we could easily have plenty of room
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Not disagreeing, but I've heard of most of these guys. The majority of the guys getting cut I doubt most of us know they exist.
 
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mgbreis said:
Not disagreeing, but I've heard of most of these guys. The majority of the guys getting cut I doubt most of us know they exist.
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Right, most of the walk ons that aren’t on the scholly chart.

So, in digging further, 97 are on the list but Coleman and Syncere are gone… so 95. Then, take out seniors and it’s now 78. We have 20 commits and potentially another few so let’s call it 24 just in case. 78 and 24 make 102, three guys (net) from the portal make it 105.

Ok, we do have room. Still, some of these guys need to move on so we can take more portal guys. I would love to see 2 OL. 2 WR, 1 LB, 2 CB from the portal
 
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HuskerDrew said:
Here is a quick toss out of some guys I question will ever do anything in the future, we can start with them:
Alvano
Bretz
Rollins
Ervin
Teddy P
Hood
Tagaloa
Stenger
Rogers
Turner
Doss
Ives

Plus, guys I felt might be reaches:
Taylor
Guthrie
Peters


So, we could easily have plenty of room
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Teddy and Turner not going anywhere if they're healthy. Good luck with that preditcion bud, you're gonna need it! Neither is Doss or Ervin.
 
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I tend to agree. Didn't love the use of NIL funds to put walk-on's on scholarship either, could open a substantial amount of money.
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Lol pretty sure you had the opposite tune a year ago, but keep on toeing the official line...
 
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headcard said:
As far as I can tell, with the current roster + incoming recruits we are at 171 players. We have 16 players who will have exhausted their eligibility, so that means we will need around 50 players to enter the portal and/or be processed. And this is before adding any players from the portal, so we could be looking at 60+ players leaving the prgram.

Going to be a wild off-season
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I thought Rhule said 30 were planning on walking Saturday although some will be juniors
 
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mgbreis said:
This is going to be a good thing for Nebraska football. Nebraska needs to be focused in every respect, and I don't believe there is any way to efficiently coach a roster of 150+ players. Guys who could be "developed" are getting lost in the shuffle. I guarantee multiple points this season Rhule has thought "damn, I forgot about that guy" or maybe even "who the hell is this guy?" Sure, we might lose a few guys who could have eventually contributed, but that will be more than offset by focusing on a smaller number and getting them the reps and coaching that is so critical. I'm glad the NCAA is making a decision that we're too dumb to make ourselves.
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Everybody likes walk-ons and finding diamonds-in-the-rough, but I agree 100%. A smaller roster with more coaching and development time on those that will actually make the three-deep at some point is a better use of resources.
 
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