Who Should We Have Hired?

Who Should we have hired?


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Man Woman & Child

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So now that we're almost 2 years in and with all the "fire everyone" talk, hindsight being 20/20, who should we have hired? I included what I remember to be the realistic, most thrown around names. Assuming we weren't getting Saban, Urban, the ghost of Bob Devaney, etc. And guys like Cignetti weren't on anyone's radar.
 

thall_

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Obviously Klieman, but you have to hire his AD to get him.

The good thing is we have a chance at coaches with a similar pedigree like Vigen.
 

BleedRed78

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Count me as one for the fat man.

Or any coach that has ACTUAL experience coaching high level within the B1G itself.
 

blackbones

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Fat boy can coach his *** off in the BIG 10..
 
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mgbreeze

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I'll give Rhule another year, but he better do something. This ain't working. No one else on that list excites me at all. If I had to choose one alternate it would be Klieman, I guess.
 

c3o

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Chadwell. Performance based contract that heavily incentives winning
 

thall_

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I thought he turned it down?
Trev was too much of a ***** to offer.

Remember his whole “I have to be a good steward of Nebraska’s resources” speech? That was him saying he was going to hire the nicest, cheapest guy who had ever coached a P5 team

He had zero interest in hiring a guaranteed winner who gets a little handsy
 

WHCSC

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If Rhule fails I vote we go all in on an option offense
 

Big bo fan

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Obviously Klieman, but you have to hire his AD to get him.

The good thing is we have a chance at coaches with a similar pedigree like Vigen.
Kielman politely turned Tren down when it appeard that Rhule was out with panthers owner issues. LL lost his OC and went to **** and Fickle will have to beat us again to get bowl eligible in year2 Not sure how long Wisky will settle for that. So not a great list.
 

Headcard

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If we are being honest, that list kind of sucks, right? Not a real clear, good choice.

That’s one of the issues I have with the posters who where most vocal about not hiring Rhule. They were all propping up guys like LL, Klieman, and Fickell. Hard to say any of them would have us on track either.

We need a different, better approach. An identity and a competitive advantage.
 
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steinek11

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So now that we're almost 2 years in and with all the "fire everyone" talk, hindsight being 20/20, who should we have hired? I included what I remember to be the realistic, most thrown around names. Assuming we weren't getting Saban, Urban, the ghost of Bob Devaney, etc. And guys like Cignetti weren't on anyone's radar.
The balls deep move would’ve been Deboer.
 

V-Doub

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He was better than Satt in the play calling department.

This is true. He was actually a considerably better play caller when compared to Satt. But I’d also think Rhule is a better HC than Frost. Or at least I think I think that. My confidence in that statement has been shaken over the last 3-5 weeks…
 

thall_

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If we are being honest, that list kind of sucks, right? Not a real clear, good choice.
Yeah let’s go through it:

Lance Leipold: beats ranked teams. probably worse without his OC, still played Illinois closer than we did

Klieman: does a lot with **** talent, already had a conference championship under his belt and may add another this year

Luke Fickell: set to be 2-0 against Rhule

Deion: 1-1 against Rhule, would probably crush him if played today

Aranda: accomplished more with Rhule’s talent than Rhule ever could

Jamey Chadwell: who knows? too much of a ***** to coach P4

Bielema: obviously better than Rhule, not even a debate

So yeah, Rhule is quite literally the worst one.
 

V-Doub

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Kielman politely turned Tren down when it appeard that Rhule was out with panthers owner issues. LL lost his OC and went to **** and Fickle will have to beat us again to get bowl eligible in year2 Not sure how long Wisky will settle for that. So not a great list.

Yup, I sadly picked Rhule again. Not because I think there’s nobody better in the “other” category, there is in my opinion. Cignetti has already proven that unequivocally. But nobody in the “other” category was on my (or anyone else’s) radar. I really can’t, in retrospect, say we shoulda hired X coach when I didn’t want that guy and/or would’ve questioned the move.

I really thought Rhule would bring in some top notch assistants. Why? I thought he had enough head coaching experience and we had enough money to do so. Boy was I wrong, he brought in a bunch of retread losers (Satt and Foley) and the rest were young up and comers with little experience. Think Rhule played himself thinking he could develop the young coaches and fix the retards I mean retreads.

Hope he realizes some of his young coaches aren’t ready for this level, and his more experienced ones never showed they were ready for a job like Nebraska. (and probably never will be) Time to fix your ****** staff Matt or go down with them.
 

Redscarlet

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Yeah let’s go through it:

Lance Leipold: beats ranked teams. probably worse without his OC, still played Illinois closer than we did

Klieman: does a lot with **** talent, already had a conference championship under his belt and may add another this year

Luke Fickell: set to be 2-0 against Rhule

Deion: 1-1 against Rhule, would probably crush him if played today

Aranda: accomplished more with Rhule’s talent than Rhule ever could

Jamey Chadwell: who knows? too much of a ***** to coach P4

Bielema: obviously better than Rhule, not even a debate

So yeah, Rhule is quite literally the worst one.
You forgot Matt Campbell since you have mention all the other bozo’s..
 

V-Doub

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Yeah let’s go through it:

Lance Leipold: beats ranked teams. probably worse without his OC, still played Illinois closer than we did

Klieman: does a lot with **** talent, already had a conference championship under his belt and may add another this year

Luke Fickell: set to be 2-0 against Rhule

Deion: 1-1 against Rhule, would probably crush him if played today

Aranda: accomplished more with Rhule’s talent than Rhule ever could

Jamey Chadwell: who knows? too much of a ***** to coach P4

Bielema: obviously better than Rhule, not even a debate

So yeah, Rhule is quite literally the worst one.

Yeah, but did you think that 2 years ago? If you have a post saying you wanted Klieman over Rhule, and more importantly that Rhule might be the worst HC on the short list then go ahead and toot your horn. But I’m willing to bet nobody, but Panthers fans maybe, thought Rhule was/is worse than those coaches. Hind sight is 20/20
 

c3o

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Yeah, but did you think that 2 years ago? If you have a post saying you wanted Klieman over Rhule, and more importantly that Rhule might be the worst HC on the short list then go ahead and toot your horn. But I’m willing to bet nobody, but Panthers fans maybe, thought Rhule was/is worse than those coaches. Hind sight is 20/20
I never liked the hire. I wanted a run first coach. Rhule never excited me. Although there were times where I thought he was doing something here but then as I watched him collapse last season I figured he was a loser. Now I’m sure of it
 

steinek11

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I never liked the hire. I wanted a run first coach. Rhule never excited me. Although there were times where I thought he was doing something here but then as I watched him collapse last season I figured he was a loser. Now I’m sure of it
I see him as a guy who can build a culture and recruit well. But I don’t think he’s a good coach. I think you have to be a real hard *** to win, or at the very least have a bunch of assistants that are. The best coaches are pretty ruthless.

It’s a big mistake by me and most of the fans that the coach has to be likable. This isn’t amateur., this is high stakes, big money football. Results matter.
 

thall_

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Yeah, but did you think that 2 years ago? If you have a post saying you wanted Klieman over Rhule, and more importantly that Rhule might be the worst HC on the short list then go ahead and toot your horn. But I’m willing to bet nobody, but Panthers fans maybe, thought Rhule was/is worse than those coaches. Hind sight is 20/20
I sure do, this was from November of 2022:
Klieman goes punch for punch with the titans of the conference then loses a few heads catchers. Rhule beats who he should then falls flat against the teams standing in the way of conference titles
Here’s the whole thread, where my takes aged beautifully and brainlets like Tuco and headcard’s did not


Here’s another thread from October of 2022:

 

regoratsginrom

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I follow KU and Leipold closely. They are the most snakebite team in the country. They’ve had the lead late in the 4th quarter in every game and have been bitten by turnovers. They held Jalon Daniel’s out of spring and fall camp (contact) and he came back with 6 inches of rust. Took him several games to shake that off and it killed them. It’s also taken half a season to get used to a new OC. Still believe he is a very good (old school) coach. He can be a little prickly with media/fans (not in a Pelion way). That might be welcome here. 😂
 

V-Doub

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I see him as a guy who can build a culture and recruit well. But I don’t think he’s a good coach. I think you have to be a real hard *** to win, or at the very least have a bunch of assistants that are. The best coaches are pretty ruthless.

It’s a big mistake by me and most of the fans that the coach has to be likable. This isn’t amateur., this is high stakes, big money football. Results matter.

I seem to find myself saying “You’ll like him if he wins” too often. I think there’s a portion of our fanbase (seems like it’s mostly older fans and more casual fans) that think likability is far more important than it is. Kids will like you if they trust you and more importantly trust that you can win.

Watch, if Cignetti doesn’t bolt after this season he’ll pull some top recruits/transfers that IU doesn’t normally get. Winners gravitate to other winners and kids will want to play for Cignetti.
 
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