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Kakdawg

Heisman
Sep 8, 2004
35,377
15,512
113
Has been a pleasant surprise this year. That dude has flashed a few times this year. I'm assuming he's already played too much to RS this year? Like what I've seen from him and a couple other young guys.

I'll be honest I'm hoping like hell we can get some of our young safeties some run now that we have gotten to the last four. Benning and Jones for example.


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BTF69

Redshirt
Oct 18, 2023
5,131
2
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Has been a pleasant surprise this year. That dude has flashed a few times this year. I'm assuming he's already played too much to RS this year? Like what I've seen from him and a couple other young guys.

I'll be honest I'm hoping like hell we can get some of our young safeties some run now that we have gotten to the last four. Benning and Jones for example.


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I think we really need to get the idea of "redshirtting" out of our minds. Unless you are injured.
 

TruHusker

All-Conference
Sep 21, 2001
12,108
2,382
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You have some guys on the team who have come back one more year to mature and prepare for the league. If a freshman is ready to play, play them, if not, don’t hurt them or the team. Then you have guys who have earned their spot but they are expected to give it up just so a freshman can get his nose wet? Then what do you do in a close game when one of those underclassmen are inserted into a game and they make a major mistake?

If they are ready play them, but if not, what is to be gained?
 
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Kakdawg

Heisman
Sep 8, 2004
35,377
15,512
113
I think we really need to get the idea of "redshirtting" out of our minds. Unless you are injured.


I don't mind redshirting guys who cant help you win right away. But if a guy can help you win I'd play him. So it's not really on my mind but I do understand the thought behind it.

A guy could play 10 plays a game as Freshman vs playing 45 a game as a 5th year. I almost think it's that simple

Now problem with that is guys can transfer out and you never get to that 5th year. OR if a guy is good enough to help you he's probably not gonna be pro by that time.

I think it's a way to build a roster IF your guys trust you and are truly bought in.


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BTF69

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Oct 18, 2023
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I don't mind redshirting guys who cant help you win right away. But if a guy can help you win I'd play him. So it's not really on my mind but I do understand the thought behind it.

A guy could play 10 plays a game as Freshman vs playing 45 a game as a 5th year. I almost think it's that simple

Now problem with that is guys can transfer out and you never get to that 5th year. OR if a guy is good enough to help you he's probably not gonna be pro by that time.

I think it's a way to build a roster IF your guys trust you and are truly bought in.


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That is the issue now, leaving. That is where the redshirt might only hurt the team that started with the guy.
 

oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,460
2,000
113
I think we really need to get the idea of "redshirtting" out of our minds. Unless you are injured.
With transfer rules as they are, redshirting makes a lot less sense than it used to. I was big on redshirting at one point. But now it's get what you can out of a guy while you can.
 

BTF69

Redshirt
Oct 18, 2023
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With transfer rules as they are, redshirting makes a lot less sense than it used to. I was big on redshirting at one point. But now it's get what you can out of a guy while you can.
Yeah, that is my thinking as well.

And if you are recruiting guys SO you can redshirt them, you are recruiting the wrong guys.

Your developmental guys are now guys at MAC schools.
 

SLOHusker

Sophomore
Aug 7, 2001
2,740
123
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Just get rid of redshirting all together. Give them 5 years of eligibility and call it good.
100% agree. Just stop with all of the 4 games nonsense and endless medical redshirts. You have five consecutive years of eligibility starting the year you sign a LOI. If you transfer more than once you lose a year.
 

V-Doub

Heisman
Jul 8, 2007
22,364
29,063
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Yeah, that is my thinking as well.

And if you are recruiting guys SO you can redshirt them, you are recruiting the wrong guys.

Your developmental guys are now guys at MAC schools.

You can’t stash underclassmen via the redshirt anymore. (talented underclassmen) Coaches used have the power to hold a year eligibility over your head and convince you to stay. (redshirt) Now… player has all the power. Play me or I’ll be on your rival’s roster (or someone else’s roster) by next week, and kicking your *** next year.

You spend the time, effort and resources to recruit said player. Then you spend all the time, effort and resources to develop said player, during his redshirt year. Then he transfers after his RS freshman season and balls out for someone else. 😳 And he still has 4 full years of eligibility at his new school. To spend all that time effort and resources to make another team better is a catastrophic coaching error. That **** gets coaches fired.
 

Zeke2005

Redshirt
Nov 26, 2023
2,316
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Has been a pleasant surprise this year. That dude has flashed a few times this year. I'm assuming he's already played too much to RS this year? Like what I've seen from him and a couple other young guys.

I'll be honest I'm hoping like hell we can get some of our young safeties some run now that we have gotten to the last four. Benning and Jones for example.


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He needs to be playing more
 
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100% agree. Just stop with all of the 4 games nonsense and endless medical redshirts. You have five consecutive years of eligibility starting the year you sign a LOI. If you transfer more than once you lose a year.

Another option would be to revise the redshirt rule regarding number of games played in a season, or at least add more meaning to it. Establish a reasonable number of plays per game to determine whether a game counts toward a redshirt season. Getting in 1 play during a game so it counts for the 4 game rule seems dumb. That is not a meaningful amount of participation. Maybe the threshold is 10 or 15 plays per game?
 

NorthWillRiseAgain

All-Conference
Dec 14, 2004
8,760
4,757
113
Has been a pleasant surprise this year. That dude has flashed a few times this year. I'm assuming he's already played too much to RS this year? Like what I've seen from him and a couple other young guys.

I'll be honest I'm hoping like hell we can get some of our young safeties some run now that we have gotten to the last four. Benning and Jones for example.


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he seems to have a natural knack for chopping that ball out of the qb's hand.
 

oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,460
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Another option would be to revise the redshirt rule regarding number of games played in a season, or at least add more meaning to it. Establish a reasonable number of plays per game to determine whether a game counts toward a redshirt season. Getting in 1 play during a game so it counts for the 4 game rule seems dumb. That is not a meaningful amount of participation. Maybe the threshold is 10 or 15 plays per game?
If a coach can't manage whether a guy on his roster plays in 4 games or not, then he's grossly incompetent. I think the redshirt rules are already generous as they are with 4 games; it used to be none.
 

Scat_Back

Redshirt
Sep 5, 2018
5,093
2
2
Benning needs to come in and be better than the most overrated senior on the team, Isaac Gifford.
 

oldjar07

All-Conference
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Benning needs to come in and be better than the most overrated senior on the team, Isaac Gifford.
Gifford hasn't been having a good year so far, but I think overall he's a solid player. I honestly don't think the new guy is as good as Evan Cooper was and that's why we're seeing some struggles in the secondary.
 

HuskerAlum92

Junior
Jan 8, 2007
4,733
346
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Ignore redshirts and play who is ready to play in the rotation and in the game situation. At the end of season, whoever appeared in 4 or fewer games “redshirted”.
 

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,090
3,507
113
Benning needs to come in and be better than the most overrated senior on the team, Isaac Gifford.
Gifford is the living embodiment of Nebraska football - he was "close" to making a lot of plays.
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Scat_Back

Redshirt
Sep 5, 2018
5,093
2
2
Won't happen. Remember when the DB coach Butler told us all that Gifford is one of the best players in the country?
I was half way implying after Gifford graduates at least. We’ve seen seniority trump talent for playing time early on when Ceyair Wright was riding the bench.
 

Kakdawg

Heisman
Sep 8, 2004
35,377
15,512
113
Won't happen. Remember when the DB coach Butler told us all that Gifford is one of the best players in the country?


FWIW Coop told us the same thing. Look I think it's a case of a guy who works his *** off, he's a leader on and off the field, the epitome of a no nonsense team first guy. It's gotta be soooooo easy for a coach to fall in love with a guy like that. Unfortunately sometimes on the field against high level talent that stuff doesn't mean a hill of beans. Gotta make plays. Again I get the lobe fest coaches/fans/media have for the guy but you gotta do it on the field.



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itseasyas1-2-3

All-Conference
Sep 6, 2021
9,805
2,137
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FWIW Coop told us the same thing. Look I think it's a case of a guy who works his *** off, he's a leader on and off the field, the epitome of a no nonsense team first guy. It's gotta be soooooo easy for a coach to fall in love with a guy like that. Unfortunately sometimes on the field against high level talent that stuff doesn't mean a hill of beans. Gotta make plays. Again I get the lobe fest coaches/fans/media have for the guy but you gotta do it on the field.



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Maybe he looks like a million bucks against our receivers?
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,386
12,800
78
Won't happen. Remember when the DB coach Butler told us all that Gifford is one of the best players in the country?
The TD pass where Gifford was left chasing that WR I blamed on Gifford. It sounds though like a safety was supposed to be there for Gifford to switch him off to. I usually hesitate to get too critical of individual defensive players because I don't know if somebody actually blew their job or they were made to look bad by somebody else's screwup. The run fit where Gifford allowed the QB to keep and pick up the first down was on him.
 

oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
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The TD pass where Gifford was left chasing that WR I blamed on Gifford. It sounds though like a safety was supposed to be there for Gifford to switch him off to. I usually hesitate to get too critical of individual defensive players because I don't know if somebody actually blew their job or they were made to look bad by somebody else's screwup. The run fit where Gifford allowed the QB to keep and pick up the first down was on him.
The guy he was chasing after is also just an insane athlete and would make just about any safety look bad. Gifford's fine, he deserves and is going to start the rest of the year. Hoping he can step it up the rest of the year and get back to where he left off after a great 2023 season. I think there's a much better chance of that happening than expecting a freshman to come in and immediately play at a high level.
 

leodisflowers

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Feb 25, 2011
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Gifford hasn't been having a good year so far, but I think overall he's a solid player. I honestly don't think the new guy is as good as Evan Cooper was and that's why we're seeing some struggles in the secondary.
You must not be watching much of the games. Last year, he was pretty solid. This year he is costing us on both D and ST. Go re-watch the OSU game and just focus on him. He was absolutely awful. The entire Husker section at the game was focused on him and he was brutal the entire game. He needs to ride the pine.
 

leodisflowers

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Feb 25, 2011
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The TD pass where Gifford was left chasing that WR I blamed on Gifford. It sounds though like a safety was supposed to be there for Gifford to switch him off to. I usually hesitate to get too critical of individual defensive players because I don't know if somebody actually blew their job or they were made to look bad by somebody else's screwup. The run fit where Gifford allowed the QB to keep and pick up the first down was on him.
He whiffs a bunch tackling and is out of position all of the time. He made a lot of plays last year and played fast. He now looks like a shell of what he was last year.,
 

oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
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You must not be watching much of the games. Last year, he was pretty solid. This year he is costing us on both D and ST. Go re-watch the OSU game and just focus on him. He was absolutely awful. The entire Husker section at the game was focused on him and he was brutal the entire game. He needs to ride the pine.
I watched him, and yes, he made mistakes. He wasn't just solid, he was great last year. This year he's less solid. But he's still our best option, he's still very good in run support, and I support our players 100% even when they're not playing their best.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,386
12,800
78
Gifford is the leading tackler on the team.
Some of that is because our opponents are going after him. He's a good player but lacks the kind of size or extreme athleticism that some of the guys he's trying to tackle possess. OSU had a couple of guys who will be early NFL draft picks.
 

leodisflowers

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Feb 25, 2011
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Some of that is because our opponents are going after him. He's a good player but lacks the kind of size or extreme athleticism that some of the guys he's trying to tackle possess. OSU had a couple of guys who will be early NFL draft picks.
Yeah, OSU's back end looks way different than ours. We need that combo of size and speed and we do not have it back there.
 

Kakdawg

Heisman
Sep 8, 2004
35,377
15,512
113
Maybe he looks like a million bucks against our receivers?


That's very possible. Watching our offense during the season one could easily assume that because a guy is doing well against us that he's a dude. Maybe it took going against better offenses and WRs to show that he's just ok and not as good as we thought.

I guess that could be what's happening. Idk...



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