Be Patient - Remember Rhule's Rebuild Formula

Man Woman & Child

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Not trying to be one of those "next year is the year" guys (those guys are losers), but that's how Matt Rhule does his thing. We shouldn't expect any different. Lots to ***** about from last night, but we still need to be patient.
 

redli33

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Why shouldn't we expect different? Was he given what he was given here at those stops? Including 10 million a year? I don't expect to be 1-28 since 2018 in tied or one score games with the ball on the final possession....which is what we are. I don't expect coaches here to lose 24 straight to ranked opponents. That's not all Rhule, but it's indicative of the performance we've allowed here among the last 3 coaching staffs. Fix it. Today. Not tomorrow, not next year, today.
 
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Why shouldn't we expect different? Was he given what he was given here at those stops? Including 10 million a year? I don't expect to be 1-28 since 2018 in tied or one score games with the ball on the final possession....which is what we are. I don't expect coaches here to lose 24 straight to ranked opponents. That's not all Rhule, but it's indicative of the performance we've allowed here among the last 3 coaching staffs. Fix it. Today. Not tomorrow, not next year, today.
It is different. His year one was better than year one at other schools. His year two will likely be a little better as well
 

c3o

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That game should have been won. Our staff can’t get out of their own way. And please coach discipline. Quit blaming the players. IL has worse roster. Big Burt gets more out of them and knows how to scheme a win
 

Husker88

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That is a game you have to win during a rebuild.

Fairly even teams talent wise, you get them at home, at night, on a national stage. You have to pull that one out.

The tough part is getting outcoached on the defensive side of the ball. We were flat out lost at times on defense, and it ultimately cost us the game.

Gonna be a grind to get to be bowl eligible, and we have to get to a bowl this year. No excuses.
 

Man Woman & Child

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It is different. His year one was better than year one at other schools. His year two will likely be a little better as well

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c3o

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That is a game you have to win during a rebuild.

Fairly even teams talent wise, you get them at home, at night, on a national stage. You have to pull that one out.

The tough part is getting outcoached on the defensive side of the ball. We were flat out lost at times on defense, and it ultimately cost us the game.

Gonna be a grind to get to be bowl eligible, and we have to get to a bowl this year. No excuses.
Yes, they’d run play action on short yardage and the guy was so wide open it was like it was nebraskas first time seeing a play fake
 

R Amazed

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I was at the game. Simply we were undisciplined and Belemia as usual out coached us. Same result different coach. It’s 3 phases and we got out coached in 2.5 of them……and we still only lost in overtime. We also win the turnover battle. It’s all coaching. Really was great atmosphere last night. Frustrating
 
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Admittedly I bought into the hype that this was a good team. It’s not.
Sprinkled with good players, yes. Still searching for that complete team.
But there seems to be some incremental progress.
 

iROOT4nu

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Clean up the penalties. That’s the first thing that will give you an easier path to victory.

Kicking will cause us a game or two.

Brighter days ahead.
 

19Football19

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Year 1: Suck
Year 2: 6-7 wins
Year 3: 10-11 wins

Not trying to be one of those "next year is the year" guys (those guys are losers), but that's how Matt Rhule does his thing. We shouldn't expect any different. Lots to ***** about from last night, but we still need to be patient.
We lose 15 or 16 starters. And the backups aren’t close to what’s on the field. So it’s this year or bust to finish a top 25 team.
 

blackbones

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I agree 100% with OP..

Losing in overtime to a good team in year 2 isn't anything to freak out about... I'm sick of the same ole same ole comments... If you can't see the improvement in the right direction of this team you are BLIND... This is game 4 of year 2!
 
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iROOT4nu

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We lose 15 or 16 starters. And the backups aren’t close to what’s on the field. So it’s this year or bust to finish a top 25 team.

So does a lot of football teams. A lot of the guys making the “Big Plays” are the FR and Sophmores. If anything I’m disappointed with some of the upperclassmen.
 

Walleye 1

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I agree 100% with OP..

Losing in overtime to a good team in year 2 isn't anything to freak out about... I'm sick of the same ole same ole comments... If you can't see the improvement in the right direction of this team you are BLIND... This is game 4 of year 2!

JFC
I do agree. I see improvement in certain areas. But I really don't think Illinois is very good. And to lose in that fashion on national tv once again. Being out coached. So sloppy. And the number of players we are set to lose after the season. People better be prepared for a major letdown.
 

SickOfPractice

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Rebuild year or not, I agree last night was a game you have to win if you hope to make any noise in the B1G. A very loud home field advantage was wasted.

The team showed some good resiliency throughout the game which I thought would serve us well going forward but then an epic fail by both the defense & offense in OT was just painful.
 
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TruHusker

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And the two examples of this are Temple and Baylor. Neither have any context with Nebraska except they play football.
 

Man Woman & Child

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And the two examples of this are Temple and Baylor. Neither have any context with Nebraska except they play football.

Temple, sure. However, don't look now, but until the last couple years, Baylor has been far more successful than we have. They had a pretty nice little 10 or so year run there that we'd have loved to have.
 
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Rhule didn’t get a 5 star stud at QB in either of his prior 2 stops

Rhule didn’t find 4 offensive starters via NIL in year 2 of his other stops

At his other stops, the older guys didn’t buy in, his own words. Here the older guys have bought in.

Yet, in year 2 we just lost at home to a mediocre Illinois team at home on national TV. We were sloppy, undisciplined and got pushed around up front though we had flashes of brilliance. We looked exactly like a Scott Frost coached team last night. Epic failure and no excuse for it
 

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We also have to take into consideration how bad Nebraska sucked in the college landscape before he came.

I took a look back at Temple and their record was 9-4, 8-4, 9-4, and 4-7 before Rhule took over. He basically took him right back up to that level before he bolted.

Same with Baylor. Their records 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 7-6 before Rhule showed up. Rhule took them back to where they had been, then bolted.

Those are seasons Nebraska players haven’t sniffed consecutively in a long time. Temple and Baylor players on those teams had been a part of winning programs, there is not a player on our team that has experienced a college winning season. Will be interesting to see if that changes his past results.
 

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Kicking will cause us a game or two
Yep. PKs are mostly forgotten leading up to game day. Then, suddenly and too often, they are the one player on the team called upon to deliver a win or critical points late in the game.

Nothing is automatic but a championship caliber team needs a PK that can reliably split the uprights inside 40 yards. A good PK should be s top recruiting priority.
 

Dean Pope

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Year 1: Suck
Year 2: 6-7 wins
Year 3: 10-11 wins

Not trying to be one of those "next year is the year" guys (those guys are losers), but that's how Matt Rhule does his thing. We shouldn't expect any different. Lots to ***** about from last night, but we still need to be patient.
Good post. It's also important to remember that this isn't our grandfather's Illinois team. By any comparison-- NFL draft picks, head to head results, recent bowl seasons-- the Illini is a program we have to respect. Last year's win was a damn good win, but that's really all it was. They were ready for us this year.
 

Dean Pope

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And the two examples of this are Temple and Baylor. Neither have any context with Nebraska except they play football.
Same is true of the glory years of Husker football-- 70's/80's Big 8 football or 90's Big 12-- totally different situations than what Nebraska finds itself in now.
 

Dean Pope

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Rebuild year or not, I agree last night was a game you have to win if you hope to make any noise in the B1G. A very loud home field advantage was wasted.

The team showed some good resiliency throughout the game which I thought would serve us well going forward but then an epic fail by both the defense & offense in OT was just painful.
In past years, that OT debacle absolutely would have scared this team for the rest of the season. But this team is well coached. This is right in Rhule's wheelhouse. I think we'll be ready for the next OT.

And another stat that shows what a weak minded football team this program has been--

The last eight OT games Nebraska hasn't even scored a point.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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Should have gone for it on 4th and 3, cannot trust the kickers to be clutch. Maybe they wouldn't have gotten the first down or td, but it was a better way to go.
 

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That is a game you have to win during a rebuild.

Fairly even teams talent wise, you get them at home, at night, on a national stage. You have to pull that one out.

The tough part is getting outcoached on the defensive side of the ball. We were flat out lost at times on defense, and it ultimately cost us the game.

Gonna be a grind to get to be bowl eligible, and we have to get to a bowl this year. No excuses.

That fat slob drank Tony Whites milkshake right in front of him then and asked his wife for her number…
 

Redscarlet

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Yep. PKs are mostly forgotten leading up to game day. Then, suddenly and too often, they are the one player on the team called upon to deliver a win or critical points late in the game.

Nothing is automatic but a championship caliber team needs a PK that can reliably split the uprights inside 40 yards. A good PK should be s top recruiting priority.
Winner, Winner Chicken dinner..
 

Sodakred

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Year 1: Suck
Year 2: 6-7 wins
Year 3: 10-11 wins
Year 1: Very nice schedule including 4 winnable November games
Year 2: Even nicer schedule in the front end, but another 0-November is possible
Years 3 and several after: NFL schedules

Comparing the short stays at Baylor and Temple to what he faces here is about like the polls proclaiming us back after UNI. Anyone worried this week about PaState poaching Rhule? How about those great HC offers for White? I should have known better than to get sucked in again after a few pre-season wins against bad teams. 🤣
 

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Last night’s OT should have never happened. They were undisciplined and caused way too many penalties, including the piss poor Defense which allowed Illinois to march down the field at will…
 
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redli33

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The input on the program is not being matched by the output....not by a long shot. Money, fan support, facilities, etc. far outstrip their performance on the field. It can't stay this way.
 

Man Woman & Child

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The input on the program is not being matched by the output....not by a long shot. Money, fan support, facilities, etc. far outstrip their performance on the field. It can't stay this way.

True, but every program has money, many have similar or equal fan support, and until last year, a lot had better facilities.
 

Papa...Football

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I do agree. I see improvement in certain areas. But I really don't think Illinois is very good. And to lose in that fashion on national tv once again. Being out coached. So sloppy. And the number of players we are set to lose after the season. People better be prepared for a major letdown.
We’d have to have a major let up first. We know letdown already
 

dinglefritz

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Admittedly I bought into the hype that this was a good team. It’s not.
Sprinkled with good players, yes. Still searching for that complete team.
But there seems to be some incremental progress.
I was trying to pump the brakes on this board. Gotta prove it and Illinois has some dudes. The funny thing is still think we could win 8. Virtually all of our games going forward are winnable and it would take a total collapse to not win 6. Ohio is likely an L but sh## can happen.
 

dinglefritz

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Should have gone for it on 4th and 3, cannot trust the kickers to be clutch. Maybe they wouldn't have gotten the first down or td, but it was a better way to go.
Yeah I sat down and put my hands on my head when they trotted out the kicker
 

dinglefritz

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In past years, that OT debacle absolutely would have scared this team for the rest of the season. But this team is well coached. This is right in Rhule's wheelhouse. I think we'll be ready for the next OT.

And another stat that shows what a weak minded football team this program has been--

The last eight OT games Nebraska hasn't even scored a point.
Illinois made us one dimensional and then teed off on Raiola. You HAVE to commit to running the football. They knew we weren’t going to try to run in OT.
 

dinglefritz

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Yep. PKs are mostly forgotten leading up to game day. Then, suddenly and too often, they are the one player on the team called upon to deliver a win or critical points late in the game.

Nothing is automatic but a championship caliber team needs a PK that can reliably split the uprights inside 40 yards. A good PK should be s top recruiting priority.
It shouldn’t have come down to a kick. Raiola got rattled last night as I figured he would at some time this fall. I thought it would happen on the road. That missed throw to the TE was a bummer.
 

dinglefritz

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Year 1: Suck
Year 2: 6-7 wins
Year 3: 10-11 wins

Not trying to be one of those "next year is the year" guys (those guys are losers), but that's how Matt Rhule does his thing. We shouldn't expect any different. Lots to ***** about from last night, but we still need to be patient.
The problem is that this is a senior dominated team in the trenches. I think he’s a year ahead of schedule so this needs to be the year IMO.