Heisman contenders

[tmcats]

You don’t think it had to do with NIL???

will howard left because klieman told him he'd have to compete for the job. this happened soon after the disappointing season closed, his fourth at k-state. he declared for the portal and was suited by ole miss, miami, ohio state, southern california, and others. ohio state gave him the potential to win a natty, improve his draft stock, play with the very best talent money can buy, and maybe even win a heisman. and yes, he got a bag - how much, idk. and yes, he's a great dude, not unlike his mentor, amart.

 

[ATLsker_rivals491785]

He's in the wrong place for it but Avery Johnson will be the best QB in Big 12 this season. He will go to the NFL barring injuries. He is VERY talented. He plays for a damn good coach. I still don't like KSU and love DONU but I'm capable of being objective.

Cam Rising won back to back conference championships, making him more accomplished than any K-State QB in history. The odds of AJ ever being that good are pretty low.

 

[ATLsker_rivals491785]

you are saying k-state won't be winning this year. a four-year guy leaves because his alma mater won't be winning. good grief. let me give you this, k-state probably has as good a chance or better than ohio state at making the cfp.

ROFL

 

[ATLsker_rivals491785]

It's going to be funny watching the old B12 schools realize how good Utah is...

 

[tmcats]

It's going to be funny watching the old B12 schools realize how good Utah is...

uu opens b12 play in stillwater. we're all curious to see how that one turns. a full evening of ollie gordon will test the utes' mettle, methinks. i'll take gundy's pokes.

 

[Walleye 1]

that is absolutely a false narrative. iowa state has never won more than nine games. the one outstanding roster they had in '21 with brock purdy and breece hall laid the biggest egg since an ostrich found hers. just complete middling nonsense.

This conference is definitely easier path to a CFP. Haha what a joke.

 

[tmcats]

This conference is definitely easier path to a CFP. Haha what a joke.

more preseason *****. want don't you bring your boys down to manhattan, would be fun?

 

[thall_]

that is absolutely a false narrative. iowa state has never won more than nine games. the one outstanding roster they had in '21 with brock purdy and breece hall laid the biggest egg since an ostrich found hers. just complete middling nonsense.

the same Iowa State that beat your Wildcats last year? the same Iowa State team that is 2-1 against your Wildcats the last 3 years? That 1 loss being by 1 point where Iowa State led most of the game?

embarrassing predicament that i know more about your team than you.

congrats on finding the 1 guy who likes your team over Utah. preseason rankings mean **** all, but if we're going by your stupid metric then why is it that Utah is ahead of them in the top 3 results on google?

College football post-spring Top 25 rankings

How does the Top 25 look following spring practice and another transfer period?

www.espn.com

College football rankings: Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon lead post-spring top 25 ahead of 2024 season

The Dawgs and Buckeyes hold firm at the top, while the Ducks join the top three ahead of their Big Ten debut season

www.cbssports.com

College football rankings: ESPN reveals SP+ top 25 for 2024 season

Where things stand in the early ESPN top 25 college football rankings as we move into the 2024 preseason spring practice period.

www.si.com

 

[tmcats]

the same Iowa State that beat your Wildcats last year? the same Iowa State team that is 2-1 against your Wildcats the last 3 years? That 1 loss being by 1 point where Iowa State led most of the game?

embarrassing predicament that i know more about your team than you.

congrats on finding the 1 guy who likes your team over Utah. preseason rankings mean **** all, but if we're going by your stupid metric then why is it that Utah is ahead of them in the top 3 results on google?

College football post-spring Top 25 rankings

How does the Top 25 look following spring practice and another transfer period?

www.espn.com

College football rankings: Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon lead post-spring top 25 ahead of 2024 season

The Dawgs and Buckeyes hold firm at the top, while the Ducks join the top three ahead of their Big Ten debut season

www.cbssports.com

College football rankings: ESPN reveals SP+ top 25 for 2024 season

Where things stand in the early ESPN top 25 college football rankings as we move into the 2024 preseason spring practice period.

www.si.com

another one guy. how many one guys should i find for you?

 

[tmcats]

the same Iowa State that beat your Wildcats last year? the same Iowa State team that is 2-1 against your Wildcats the last 3 years? That 1 loss being by 1 point where Iowa State led most of the game?

embarrassing predicament that i know more about your team than you.

congrats on finding the 1 guy who likes your team over Utah. preseason rankings mean **** all, but if we're going by your stupid metric then why is it that Utah is ahead of them in the top 3 results on google?

College football post-spring Top 25 rankings

How does the Top 25 look following spring practice and another transfer period?

www.espn.com

College football rankings: Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon lead post-spring top 25 ahead of 2024 season

The Dawgs and Buckeyes hold firm at the top, while the Ducks join the top three ahead of their Big Ten debut season

www.cbssports.com

College football rankings: ESPN reveals SP+ top 25 for 2024 season

Where things stand in the early ESPN top 25 college football rankings as we move into the 2024 preseason spring practice period.

www.si.com

oh, here's another of those "one guys" - how many one guys make more than one guy in the mind of one guy posting here?

 

[tmcats]

oh my gosh, these one guys just keep popping up for one guy here to consider whether one guy is actually one guy or not. i guess i'll stop now with the one guy nonsense since it's only one guy here with seemingly no other one guys to be found.

 

[thall_]

the same Iowa State that beat your Wildcats last year? the same Iowa State team that is 2-1 against your Wildcats the last 3 years? That 1 loss being by 1 point where Iowa State led most of the game?

embarrassing predicament that i know more about your team than you.

@AVeritas were you gonna address how stupid i made you look here or did you wanna forget about that?

We can get into a pissing match about who can find more sources that believe Utah will be the better team, if you want.

Personally I think that’s a fools argument. Perhaps instead you’d like to rationalize why KState will be better than a team who has the clear edge at both coach and QB?

 

[thall_]

oh my gosh, these one guys just keep popping up for one guy here to consider whether one guy is actually one guy or not. i guess i'll stop now with the one guy nonsense since it's only one guy here with seemingly no other one guys to be found.

It’s wild, the first result googling “betting odds to win Big 12 2024” returns this:

2024 Big 12 win totals, odds, picks: Predictions for every team as Utah, Kansas State make case for contention

The Big 12 debuts a 16-team league in 2024, featuring four new members from the Pac-12

www.cbssports.com

you must be having to dig!

 

[thall_]

@AVeritas what a development! Just googled “betting odds to win 2024 National Championship” and this was the first result. How could this be?

College Football National Championship Odds: Ohio State Remains Early Favorite | BetMGM

Georgia and Ohio State are heavily favored at the start of a historic season of college football.

sports.betmgm.com

 

[TampaBaySkers]

It’s sad short shorts made a comeback for Gen z. No one wants to see your legs bro

 

[tmcats]

@AVeritas were you gonna address how stupid i made you look here or did you wanna forget about that?

We can get into a pissing match about who can find more sources that believe Utah will be the better team, if you want.

Personally I think that’s a fools argument. Perhaps instead you’d like to rationalize why KState will be better than a team who has the clear edge at both coach and QB?

i believe it's far better to let it play out on the field than continue to try and outflank the nattering nabobs who have no more clue than me. at least we've moved on from "one guy." can we leave it at that?

 

[Ki11ersker45]

oh my gosh, these one guys just keep popping up for one guy here to consider whether one guy is actually one guy or not. i guess i'll stop now with the one guy nonsense since it's only one guy here with seemingly no other one guys to be found.

You know in this one Utah and K_State are both favored to win it, right??

 

[Walleye 1]

i believe it's far better to let it play out on the field than continue to try and outflank the nattering nabobs who have no more clue than me. at least we've moved on from "one guy." can we leave it at that?

Haha. It's getting sad for you

 

[RBigredMax]

that is absolutely a false narrative. iowa state has never won more than nine games. the one outstanding roster they had in '21 with brock purdy and breece hall laid the biggest egg since an ostrich found hers. just complete middling nonsense.

Still hard to believe the TV contract isn’t as good as SEC and B1G with that lineup. I forgot how power-packed they were until you see them all together in one spot.

 

[RBigredMax]

another one guy. how many one guys should i find for you?

 

[tmcats]

You know in this one Utah and K_State are both favored to win it, right??

yep.

 

[tmcats]

Still hard to believe the TV contract isn’t as good as SEC and B1G with that lineup. I forgot how power-packed they were until you see them all together in one spot.

the tv contract will greatly improve with the addition of certain acc schools under the private equity buy, should that happen. but still, we live in scarcely populated states for the most part with small alumni bases compared to say ohio state, michigan, minnesota, illinois, penn state. that has a lot to due with it - eyeballs.

for example, i seldom watch non-b12 games other than N from time-to-time. i suspect that's true - in reverse - for you reading this post today. you might have spent a moment or two with k-state/ou to see how adrian was doing? but that only happened if an important b10 game was not available.

people watch their school and conference mostly. so small states like utah and kansas are not going to get viewership drift unless it's a huge game like the 2022 tcu/k-state championship. thus, yormark has to be creative to close the gap with methods like private equity investment.

 

[BleedRed78]

that is absolutely a false narrative. iowa state has never won more than nine games. the one outstanding roster they had in '21 with brock purdy and breece hall laid the biggest egg since an ostrich found hers. just complete middling nonsense.

Utah over Kitties, as well as maybe Kansas and/or OSU.

 

[tmcats]

Utah over Kitties, as well as maybe Kansas and/or OSU.

k-state/uu would have to be in arlington b12 championship game, which is the guess of many experts. they don't play in the regular season.

 

[Redscarlet]

Pretty Weenie!

 

[thall_]

there isn't a program in the country, including N, that would not take avery johnson over will howard. stop with the narrative. it's silly and unflattering.

 

[RockyMtnHusker]

not sure what kind of tangent this thread went off on but in terms of Heisman candidates, the RB from Iowa (Johnson) should be in the discussion. We’ll see where he ends up at the end of the season, but so far the kid’s been exceptional.

 

[phoenix4nu]

not sure what kind of tangent this thread went off on but in terms of Heisman candidates, the RB from Iowa (Johnson) should be in the discussion. We’ll see where he ends up at the end of the season, but so far the kid’s been exceptional.

Travis Hunter is probably the front runner as of now after his performance against Baylor.

 

[king_kong_]

here's what will happen.

your run of the mill 4* QB will show flashes of brilliance early. teams will figure him out, his completion % will hover around 55%, he'll injure himself by taking off running too often, then fulfill his destiny of playing for the Ottawa Rough Riders

this is basically exactly what's happened.

well done.