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Most of our fan base follows recruiting. Are you joking?
You said you would have rather had a WR than DR. Enough said.
If I am not mistaken, he also wanted a smaller WR because we already had enough bigger ones.
I've used this before but it applies to oldjar. He could fall into a barrel of tittys and would come out sucking his thumb.
Gebbia hurt Oldjar deeply. He’s pretty much been anti-qb since … poor bastard.
Can you imagine how messed up his other leg is if he has to run like that?
It's like one of those 3 legged dogs. It's all very sad.
Then take a vacation and it will all go away. You sound more like an Iowa fan than a Husker fan.
Other one from Idaho missed his trip. NU cut bait and he committed somewhere else.
We're ranked 43rd in transfer portal rankings according to that same site. It's nothing to pat ourselves on the back about. Every other team is filling needs in the portal as well and that should be a minimum expectation anymore. That and preventing mass exodus of players to the transfer portal which we have done a good job at preventing.
I don't believe those rankings take into account positions of need. The staff killed it. We're now solid everywhere w a generational QB. We're a legitimate top 20/playoff contender next year. Top 8 year after.
Was that quote before or during the season? I believe he took stock of things after the season and re-evaluated what is needed going forward. Also, needing to build around a new starter.
Just my opinion but you have to have physical perimeter guys like S. Morgan, Enunwa, Palmer in this league to win one on one matchups. Banks is every bit that type of wideout
Doesn’t the “position of need” thing kind of take care of itself? I assume almost every transfer is being picked up because the team getting them sees them as an upgrade over what they already have. Maybe some are added just for depth, but most are at least thought to be improving the positions of their new team. And if they are being added just for depth, they’re probably not good enough to be improving anyone’s rankings.
Yeah, I know that. That's not what I was replying to. OP said recruiting sites don't take position of need into account. My point was that they don't need to. With portal players, it is assumed that the vast majority are being added to positions of need. That's pretty much the entire premise of the portal. Not just with us, but pretty much everywhere.
Sort of. There aren’t as many 4 and 5 star OL as there are skill position players. I don’t have the numbers in front of me but in most years there are more 4 and 5 star WR than OL. If a school’s position of need is OL and they take 2 high 3 star and a 4 star, their ranking won’t be as high as a team that takes three 4 star WR, as an example.
After the season he stated something along the lines that we have enough big receivers and we need a smaller possession receiver.
A lot of portal players are backups. There might be a need but the impact isn't the same. Signing Tyler Knaack wasn't the same as Ben Scott.
We kind of had the Colorado style last year, a lot of movement. Took a lot of guys who were unlikely to start. We did the opposite this year. Only took guys we think can start.
Yeah, for sure. I don't want to fight @oldjar07 's fight. But, I think his entire argument is just that we should have taken more of them because we had more than 5 positions that needed upgrading.
We offered a JUCO player Dylan Christley. Pretty unknown player that is gaining some steam based on his workouts. He is visiting Maryland next week. Listed at 6'1 275 but looks a little less in weight than that, but is jacked. 40 reps of 225 lbs, 4.48 laser (apparently). Had 11.5 sacks this year. Quick off the ball and impressive athlete who can move. Plays edge/DL.
I don't know. Look at our depth chart for the Iowa game. Cross off the guys that left and plug in the new guys, including recruits. Hard to argue we left much open. Maybe LT and and maybe a LB spot. You assume Teddy continues to progress from his injuries and gain experience, and you assume Gottula continues to get much better. And you have a top 100 recruit pushing them both in Brix.
I would have taken a 2nd LB.
We're ranked 43 because we only took 5 transfers.
There's only 2 teams with 5 transfers rated higher.
Again, not my argument, but I think his point is that we should have done fewer recruits and more portal players. I do acknowledge that he might be right though, at least to some extent. More talented portal players should equal immediate impact. Conversely, more talented recruits should equal better building for the future. Emphasis on "should" in both cases. Lots of posters are really dug in on him being 100% wrong because they perceive him as just bashing NU, but some of them are not very objective about a lot of things. I'm just not that dug in on either method being right or wrong because I think it's too early to tell.
Yeah. We took 56 high school kids the last 2 classes. And appear off to a good hit rate already. 2 freshman all-Americans on the dline. 2 starting wide receivers. Starting kicker. And I believe only one has left, Fields.
We did things differently and it could pay off in a huge way in a few years. Our backup spots are occupied by very young players we think we can develop. So we don't necessarily have gaping holes like some programs or need to take a bunch of portal players at this point. Our portal players are already in the program, they are just young.
But they arent leaders if they transfer.
Look, I hate the blind rhule sunshine pumping too. His first year was a failure.
But oldjar is an idiot and should not be defended in any way, and deserves to be called out for the downer that he is. He is finding things to complain about because he wants to complain.
He found a way to complain about DR, he found a way to work in complaints with every portal addition even though he says we need portal additions, and he even went as far to complain about the height of our receivers, ffs.
He needs to get lost.
Did you even look at the depth chart and do what I said? When I say plug in recruits I'm talking about guys like Dylan Raiola or Koch taking over at punter. We don't have a lot of needs on paper and most of our needs were addressed though the portal or recruiting.
I guess you would have to tell me who we need to recruit over and who you would have REALISTICALLY taken. Don't tell me you would replace DR with Arch Manning or some nonsense like that.
Did you even read the part where I said it's not my argument and that I can only see his point to some extent? Certainly don't care enough to dig in player-by-player.
Again, I think his point is that he thinks we could use an upgrade damn near across the board to be better, sooner. Not just at a handful of positions, and not with developmental young guys. Given that we didn't even have one player on the roster who made All B1G 2 deep and only had 1 on the 3 deep, it's not that hard to see his point.
I should have known better than to try to rationalize for @oldjar07 so, I'm bowing out of this one and letting him fight his own fight.
Rhule has stated many times that he wants to build a base first. His opinion is that leveraging the farm for one year players isn’t really his m.o.
Someone would have to go player by player or it wouldn't have any credibility. My argument is we don't have gaping holes and we filled the starting holes with portal players or really good hs recruits, i.e. DR and Koch.
I guess you can make the argument for him that we should have got the #1 portal wr and the #1 portal rb and the #1 portal qb. Other than that I don't know what there is to complain about.
Rhule is following his exact script he layed out. Young position coaches and a lot of high school athletes who have NFL measurables. He then uses the young coaches to keep an intact roster to develop the young players. With portal players sprinkled in.
I'll just say I agree with this ^ part 100% and let @oldjar07 handle the rest for himself. Appreciate the thoughtful discussion. GBR!