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Baxter48_rivals204143

All-Conference
Sep 22, 2010
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tmcats

tmcats

Junior
May 29, 2001
34,534
204
51
Baxter48 said:
Makes no sense Howard isn’t a typical rilley quarterback
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agree that howard is much more a pro style qb than riley has had success with in the past. i thought it would interesting here to know he came to manhattan to visit though. will's going to make a ton of cash next season. good on him.
 
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frostonthegrass

Senior
Nov 10, 2017
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840
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AVeritas said:
agree that howard is much more a pro style qb than riley has had success with in the past. i thought it would interesting here to know he came to manhattan to visit though. will's going to make a ton of cash next season. good on him.
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Why isn't KSU ponying up?
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,587
13,006
78
RedCap said:
I wonder if Howard will announce his pick before the bowl game.
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2023 Will Howard QBR 75 for ENTIRE year with 10 INTs, 4.3 ypc over the last 2 games. Previous games that I can find were 2.7 to minus 2 ypc. 2023 Cubba Purdy QBR 74 with 3 INTs, 7 yards per carry average. Just saying I’m not sure Howard is as big of an upgrade as some think. He does have a LOT more experience on the plus side.
 
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mgbreeze

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,117
3,590
113
dinglefritz said:
2023 Will Howard QBR 75 with 10 INTs, 4.3 ypc over the last 2 games. Previous games that I can find were 2.7 to minus 2 ypc. 2023 Cubba Purdy QBR 74 with 3 INTs, 7 yards per carry average. Just saying I’m not sure Howard is as big of an upgrade as some think. He does have a LOT more experience on the plus side.
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Typing Howard and Purdy in the same sentence is an insult to rational thought. C'mon man. Sure, let's quote stats from the last two games because they happen to fit your argument. Howard's career QBR is like 130 and anything over 100 is excellent. Like comparing Private Benjamin to General Patton.
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,587
13,006
78
mgbreis said:
Typing Howard and Purdy in the same sentence is an insult to rational thought. C'mon man. Sure, let's quote stats from the last two games because they happen to fit your argument. Howard's career QBR is like 130 and anything over 100 is excellent. Like comparing Private Benjamin to General Patton.
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His QBR of 75 is for the ENTIRE 2023 season per ESPN. I gave the last 2 games of his rushing because they didn’t offer his whole year stats for that. The games they showed his average was about 2 ypc.
 
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realHuskerDrew

All-Conference
Jun 12, 2001
13,138
3,690
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Huskers123456 said:
Can someone clarify if visiting a player before the portal open is allowed by the NCAA? That would be my first question to determine if that tweet is legit. I thought everything was done by an intermediary, ie hs coach, until the portal opened.
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The portal is open already to have your name in. If you are a grad transfer or your coach was fired, etc you can be in there.
If you are a regular portal transfer, officially you can enter starting Monday.
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,587
13,006
78
HuskerDrew said:
The portal is open already to have your name in. If you are a grad transfer or your coach was fired, etc you can be in there.
If you are a regular portal transfer, officially you can enter starting Monday.
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I’m not sure how they would keep a guy from making an unofficial visit before the portal is open.
 
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MargotDeeper

Freshman
Feb 27, 2017
2,272
73
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mgbreis said:
Like comparing Private Benjamin to General Patton.
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See, there's something to be said about choosing the Private.
 
mgbreeze

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,117
3,590
113
dinglefritz said:
His QBR of 75 is for the ENTIRE 2023 season per ESPN. I gave the last 2 games of his rushing because they didn’t offer his whole year stats for that. The games they showed his average was about 2 ypc.
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Ok, if that's the case then maybe the statistics make it appear to be a closer case. I'm honestly not sure we're talking the same ratings as it seems every site has their own version. But still, c'mon man... Purdy vs Howard? Potential early round draft pick vs a guy that hasn't done anything?

Who would you like to see us get in the portal? Surely you can't want us to stand pat with Chubba?
 
tmcats

tmcats

Junior
May 29, 2001
34,534
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if riley is interested as rumored, i don't believe N has the resources to compete with usc anyway. coaching, nil, pedigree all go to riley's bench. howard is likely going to the guy with the dough and the acumen to best prepare him for the nfl. that's probably lincoln but not nebraska.
 
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dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,587
13,006
78
mgbreis said:
Ok, if that's the case then maybe the statistics make it appear to be a closer case. I'm honestly not sure we're talking the same ratings as it seems every site has their own version. But still, c'mon man... Purdy vs Howard? Potential early round draft pick vs a guy that hasn't done anything?

Who would you like to see us get in the portal? Surely you can't want us to stand pat with Chubba?
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Howard is fine but he’s a one and done. It seems there’s plenty to choose from but it’s about fit and a willing Qb. I might lean towards a younger guy
 
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V1nufanx4

Sophomore
Aug 15, 2018
795
137
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AVeritas said:
if riley is interested as rumored, i don't believe N has the resources to compete with usc anyway. coaching, nil, pedigree all go to riley's bench. howard is likely going to the guy with the dough and the acumen to best prepare him for the nfl. that's probably lincoln but not nebraska.
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I think USC’s next QB isn’t in the portal yet. Riley is just doing his due diligence, also not sure that Howard will settle on NU.
 
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oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,472
2,013
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mgbreis said:
Ok, if that's the case then maybe the statistics make it appear to be a closer case. I'm honestly not sure we're talking the same ratings as it seems every site has their own version. But still, c'mon man... Purdy vs Howard? Potential early round draft pick vs a guy that hasn't done anything?

Who would you like to see us get in the portal? Surely you can't want us to stand pat with Chubba?
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That's exactly what he wants is us to stand pat with the crap football team we have. He always manages to find the one dimension that one crap player has compared to a good player and tries to make it seem like they're comparable. But he fails to account that one player managed those stats over a full season while the other did it over a couple games, they are not comparable situations at all. People with a loser's mentality do this sort of thing all the time.
 
tmcats

tmcats

Junior
May 29, 2001
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i'll just say that will howard to my eyes watching over the past four years is a quality quarterback but not elite. if you get him, you'll be a far better program on multiple levels.

but i don't see a b10 championship resulting. he'll certainly bring a competitive offense to go with the fine defense and a good bowl game; 8-9 wins.
 
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BrighteRed24_rivals190920

Freshman
Nov 5, 2018
2,163
68
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AVeritas said:
i'll just say that will howard to my eyes watching over the past four years is a quality quarterback but not elite. if you get him, you'll be a far better program on multiple levels. but i don't see a b10 championship resulting. he'll certainly bring a competitive offense to go with the fine defense and a good bowl game.
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Dude, we ain’t winnig a big 10 championship next year with Bo Nix
 
mgbreeze

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,117
3,590
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dinglefritz said:
Howard is fine but he’s a one and done. It seems there’s plenty to choose from but it’s about fit and a willing Qb. I might lean towards a younger guy
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I get wanting a guy for multiple years but Nebraska can't turn away a one-and-done winner. We need to win so bad, it's time to eliminate as many variables and experiments as possible. You're right, there are many options out there so I'm not Howard or bust by any stretch, but it better be a proven performer. I don't even care what style of QB they are as long as they've won. A lot. I like the Coastal Carolina guy.
 
mgbreeze

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,117
3,590
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AVeritas said:
i'll just say that will howard to my eyes watching over the past four years is a quality quarterback but not elite. if you get him, you'll be a far better program on multiple levels.

but i don't see a b10 championship resulting. he'll certainly bring a competitive offense to go with the fine defense and a good bowl game; 8-9 wins.
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Sold. Send him up.
 
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JabroniBlvd

Redshirt
Nov 5, 2005
1,390
4
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Nothing in CFB matters more than having a QB you can trust. Someone like Howard would get us in the right direction while figuring out who is next in line. No one should be expecting anything more than that right now. B10 is loaded going forward.
 
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huskersreign

Freshman
May 30, 2003
993
94
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Having an experienced QB that can read defenses and find/hit open receivers would be an absolute boon for this offense and team. Didn't watch much of KSU this year, but their offensive production likely fell off a bit because the loss of Deuce Vaughn. With a Strong run game, Howard is dangerous. Being nearly 250 lbs also should help him to get through an entire season.. Howard would be a great get for us.

I do think Purdy could be a good one though, just not sure if he can get there in time for next year (to win at a high level) and is injury prone. It would be good for Purdy to learn behind an experienced QB like Howard.
 
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Headcard

Heisman
Feb 2, 2005
192,508
20,877
113
mgbreis said:
Typing Howard and Purdy in the same sentence is an insult to rational thought. C'mon man. Sure, let's quote stats from the last two games because they happen to fit your argument. Howard's career QBR is like 130 and anything over 100 is excellent. Like comparing Private Benjamin to General Patton.
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His passer rating was 140 last year 149 the year before. And Dingle leaves out that he also threw 24 TD’s and ran for 9 more last year. Howard would be a good pick up.
 
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RedCap_rivals330392

Heisman
Sep 29, 2001
75,439
12,977
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AVeritas said:
if riley is interested as rumored, i don't believe N has the resources to compete with usc anyway. coaching, nil, pedigree all go to riley's bench. howard is likely going to the guy with the dough and the acumen to best prepare him for the nfl. that's probably lincoln but not nebraska.
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Could be that Riley is just interested in driving up the NIL price for his conference competitors next year.
 
mgbreeze

mgbreeze

All-Conference
Dec 16, 2004
10,117
3,590
113
oldjar07 said:
That's exactly what he wants is us to stand pat with the crap football team we have. He always manages to find the one dimension that one crap player has compared to a good player and tries to make it seem like they're comparable. But he fails to account that one player managed those stats over a full season while the other did it over a couple games, they are not comparable situations at all. People with a loser's mentality do this sort of thing all the time.
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I think it's human nature to stick by a guy if you've said in the past "I think this guy can be good." Hell, it gets actual coaches in trouble all the time. Frost/Martinez as Exhibit A.
 
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Mack In Motion

All-Conference
Jun 20, 2001
5,998
3,531
113
mgbreis said:
I get wanting a guy for multiple years but Nebraska can't turn away a one-and-done winner. We need to win so bad, it's time to eliminate as many variables and experiments as possible. You're right, there are many options out there so I'm not Howard or bust by any stretch, but it better be a proven performer. I don't even care what style of QB they are as long as they've won. A lot. I like the Coastal Carolina guy.
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The other thing in play here:

We go into this cycle with HH or CP tagged as the starter, we aren't going to be even in the conversation for any receivers worth a ****.

Evidence: the numbers our WR room put up this season.
 
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HominidHusker

Senior
Jun 25, 2018
3,727
743
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mgbreis said:
I get wanting a guy for multiple years but Nebraska can't turn away a one-and-done winner. We need to win so bad, it's time to eliminate as many variables and experiments as possible. You're right, there are many options out there so I'm not Howard or bust by any stretch, but it better be a proven performer. I don't even care what style of QB they are as long as they've won. A lot. I like the Coastal Carolina guy.
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100%. We have to win now, no more excuses. Some good things happened this year (only 1 side of the ball), but it’s still 7 years of failure.

Proven multi-year guy would be a dream, but taking best QB possible should be priority.
If it’s one and done, Rhule just needs to show he’s capable of leading a winning team at Nebraska, in the new B1G.

Sense of urgency is calling… pick it up.
 
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61bigredfan

Redshirt
Oct 9, 2015
1,136
0
0
king_kong_ said:
Oh okay.

I’m sure it was completely innocent. Not at all passive aggressive.

Our spending (12th, was it?) is not in line with our expectations. It is in line with our performance, however.
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Who did you want for HC? Or are you too scared to say?
 
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beaglehusker

All-Conference
Sep 29, 2006
13,178
3,891
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AVeritas said:
i'll just say that will howard to my eyes watching over the past four years is a quality quarterback but not elite. if you get him, you'll be a far better program on multiple levels.

but i don't see a b10 championship resulting. he'll certainly bring a competitive offense to go with the fine defense and a good bowl game; 8-9 wins.
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This I can agree with. Good but not Elite.
 
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Hairliphenry

Freshman
Jun 1, 2022
1,073
72
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dinglefritz said:
2023 Will Howard QBR 75 for ENTIRE year with 10 INTs, 4.3 ypc over the last 2 games. Previous games that I can find were 2.7 to minus 2 ypc. 2023 Cubba Purdy QBR 74 with 3 INTs, 7 yards per carry average. Just saying I’m not sure Howard is as big of an upgrade as some think. He does have a LOT more experience on the plus side.
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Way better than Purdy, not even close.
 
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Huskers123456

Redshirt
Feb 5, 2023
6,195
0
0
AVeritas said:
i'll just say that will howard to my eyes watching over the past four years is a quality quarterback but not elite. if you get him, you'll be a far better program on multiple levels.

but i don't see a b10 championship resulting. he'll certainly bring a competitive offense to go with the fine defense and a good bowl game; 8-9 wins.
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We don't need a Big 10 championship. We need a winning season to restore faith in humanity. I've this guy before but I never figured he would be possibly playing at NU so I don't remember much. If Riley is kicking the tires then I'm interested.
 
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oldjar07

All-Conference
Oct 25, 2009
9,472
2,013
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Mack In Motion said:
The other thing in play here:

We go into this cycle with HH or CP tagged as the starter, we aren't going to be even in the conversation for any receivers worth a ****.

Evidence: the numbers our WR room put up this season.
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There should be a ton of receivers in the portal. Getting a stud receiver is every bit as important as getting a decent qb. Need to pony up some dough this offseason.
 
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Huskers123456

Redshirt
Feb 5, 2023
6,195
0
0
Does anyone else find it interesting that we haven't had a single player announce they are entering the portal?
 
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