Carlon Jones

V-Doub

Heisman
Jul 8, 2007
22,364
29,063
0
If he commits to OSU, then it probably has nothing to do with Nebraska being cheap

Maybe. IMO, It’s a better offer and more money. Like I’ve said before, we will have to over spend to beat out the likes OSU, Mich, UGA etc… Can’t match or come close to their NIL offers and expect to win. But who knows? Maybe it’s not the money and just the allure of playing for OSU, I tend to believe it’s both.
 

HuskerLLM

All-Conference
Aug 1, 2004
45,801
1,671
0
Maybe, IMO. It’s a better offer and more money. Like I’ve said before, we will have to over spend to beat out the likes OSU, Mich, UGA etc… Can’t match or come close to their NIL offers and expect to win. But who knows? Maybe it’s not the money and just the allure of playing for OSU, I tend to believe it’s both.

You know this could be about Jones and not about Nebraska's failure in some way
 

V-Doub

Heisman
Jul 8, 2007
22,364
29,063
0
You know this could be about Jones and not about Nebraska's failure in some way

Could be. But it sure sounds like he wanted more $$$, we didn’t or couldn’t hit his number, so he wants to shop around take “visits”. So in turn we/Rhule decided to cut him loose. That’s what it sounds like to me…
 

HuskerLLM

All-Conference
Aug 1, 2004
45,801
1,671
0
Could be. But it sure sounds like he wanted more $$$, we didn’t or couldn’t hit his number, so he wants to shop around take “visits”. So in turn we/Rhule decided to cut him loose. That’s what it sounds like to me…

So that is why he also set a visit to K State?

The alure of Ohio St couldn't be Larry Johnson? Long considered one of the best DLine coaches in the country (and one of the best recruitets)...or where they are as a program?
 

V-Doub

Heisman
Jul 8, 2007
22,364
29,063
0
So that is why he also set a visit to K State?

IDK? Maybe it’s just one of the schools he wants to see? Maybe they have a better (or at least an equalish) NIL offer? Maybe both? If, in the end, it becomes apparent that this was not about NIL money at all I’ll be glad I was wrong. But with each and every tweet(x) I read it sound exactly like it’s about the money. We’ll see I guess…
 

HankMoody78

Sophomore
Dec 17, 2018
822
129
0
For the 1st time in years I'm not concerned with losing a DE commit. We finally have QB pressure from the DL and underclassmen.
 

Huskers123456

Redshirt
Feb 5, 2023
6,195
0
0
LOL really?! Just to be clear, I'm not unloading on you or anything because a) I don't know the kid so why would I care that much, and b) it's kind of funny - but damn. You would rather the truth be that the kid is stupid and has very dim prospects for the future, rather than it be because he would rather have a great opportunity to play for another team? Fans are crazy.
Likely nothing to do with intelligence if it is grades. More likely laziness and maturity. Unfortunately I have had experience with this first hand with a kid in my house.
 

WHCSC

All-Conference
Feb 4, 2002
10,789
3,598
88
I hope it's not just about money because this kid seems worth the cost
 

steinek11

All-Conference
Apr 18, 2004
13,481
1,215
113
LOL really?! Just to be clear, I'm not unloading on you or anything because a) I don't know the kid so why would I care that much, and b) it's kind of funny - but damn. You would rather the truth be that the kid is stupid and has very dim prospects for the future, rather than it be because he would rather have a great opportunity to play for another team? Fans are crazy.
Yep, i’d rather we back off because he is too risky. We can’t be losing out on other prospects to someone who may not be able to make it here at all.

He’s a talented player. He can go here or somewhere else and succeed in football.
 

Redblood23

All-Conference
Jan 17, 2004
5,703
1,995
113
Could be anything but Rhule isn't going to be held hostage by a HS kid playing games for whatever reason. He believes he can develop good players but they have to want to be here.
 

inWV

All-Conference
Sep 22, 2007
14,188
4,837
91
Just speculating, but I bet it is more about him wanting to sign in Feb and take more visits.
Pretty long commit list + Ty coming back + kid with cold feet = Carlon moving on.
 

steinek11

All-Conference
Apr 18, 2004
13,481
1,215
113
We’ve seen this play before. Get up to signing day and poof, sorry, going someplace else. I suspect Rhule calculated the odds and didn’t find them in his favor.
 
Jun 11, 2001
1,224
205
63
For real? Doesn’t seem likely… what lines are you reading between? In other words, what led you to this notion?
Comments he made such as my plans changed I guess or something like that I am paraphrasing
It wasn't your typical phrases you here
I could be totally wrong
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
0
This wreaks of us being cheap, again. For those who think this is a “grades” issue I’ll be waiting for your explanation when he commits to OSU on or before his visit…
Does it really though, or is that just a little bit of confirmation bias for you?


It's not grades though. Pretty sure he could be an early enrollee if he wanted to.
 

JOHNNY N

Heisman
Sep 24, 2003
109,994
39,220
0
Just speculating, but I bet it is more about him wanting to sign in Feb and take more visits.

I mean, if you really want to be apart the change wouldn't you sign during the early signing period and shut down the rest of his recruitment?

Instead he wants to sign late and take more visits. That doesn't sound like a guy that truly wants N.
 

steinek11

All-Conference
Apr 18, 2004
13,481
1,215
113
I mean, if you really want to be apart the change wouldn't you sign during the early signing period and shut down the rest of his recruitment?

Instead he wants to sign late and take more visits. That doesn't sound like a guy that truly wants N.
Someone is telling him that he’s leaving money on the table.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
I really hope it’s grades.
As crappy as their public schools are it could even be that he’s lacking a class to graduate. One bad guidance counselor can really screw a kid over. Really sucks for him if it’s coursework related.

Let’s hope we get him on the rebound or transfer in a year or two. He sounds like a good kid and DL talent like he has is hard to find.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
It’s not grades, But OSU is ponying up for their B or even C option.
Their D line coach is a top “recruiter”. We’re going to have to develop D linemen like Nash and find area kids that want to be N. I don’t think we’ll win any bidding wars with top 5 programs.
 

Huskers123456

Redshirt
Feb 5, 2023
6,195
0
0
Sucks but this is what I've wanted coaches to do all along. Don't get strung out and lose a kid on signing day when everyone knew he wasn't coming here. We likely aren't finding someone as good as him but at least we aren't going to have to take a risk on someone just to fill a spot.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
Sucks but this is what I've wanted coaches to do all along. Don't get strung out and lose a kid on signing day when everyone knew he wasn't coming here. We likely aren't finding someone as good as him but at least we aren't going to have to take a risk on someone just to fill a spot.
With the early signing date we no doubt are scrambling to find a guy. Once again, the word committed apparently means nothing today. Don’t use God to excuse breaking your word.
 

Huskers123456

Redshirt
Feb 5, 2023
6,195
0
0
With the early signing date we no doubt are scrambling to find a guy. Once again, the word committed apparently means nothing today. Don’t use God to excuse breaking your word.
Scrambling is relative. If we cut him lose then we have probably been working on Plan B for a few days. So roughly a month to find someone. As opposed to waiting until signing day and then start working on Plan B.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
Scrambling is relative. If we cut him lose then we have probably been working on Plan B for a few days. So roughly a month to find someone. As opposed to waiting until signing day and then start working on Plan B.
If he’s still visiting OSU, I doubt they’re cutting him loose. Time will tell
 

inWV

All-Conference
Sep 22, 2007
14,188
4,837
91
With the early signing date we no doubt are scrambling to find a guy. Once again, the word committed apparently means nothing today. Don’t use God to excuse breaking your word.
Commit list stands at 26 and the number of true freshman scholarship players is 27. The scholarship limit is 85. That math leaves 32 scholarship spots. There are 6 scholarship true freshman listed at the DL psn. I think they would have liked Jones on the roster, but I don't think they have short or even medium term worries at that position and the staff faces some tough math to get to 85, especially if they plan on portal activity.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
Commit list stands at 26 and the number of true freshman scholarship players is 27. The scholarship limit is 85. That math leaves 32 scholarship spots. There are 6 scholarship true freshman listed at the DL psn. I think they would have liked Jones on the roster, but I don't think they have short or even medium term worries at that position and the staff faces some tough math to get to 85, especially if they plan on portal activity.
OK. I’ll come in off the ledge. He was still my fave recruit. I think he’s a bigtime talent.
 

salsa red

Senior
Dec 25, 2019
2,433
658
113
Would like to see 1890 and the university promote nil more. If fans knew their donations could bring in better players I think we'd see more money to nil.
 

maly

All-Conference
Dec 10, 2003
25,857
3,082
0
Commit list stands at 26 and the number of true freshman scholarship players is 27. The scholarship limit is 85. That math leaves 32 scholarship spots. There are 6 scholarship true freshman listed at the DL psn. I think they would have liked Jones on the roster, but I don't think they have short or even medium term worries at that position and the staff faces some tough math to get to 85, especially if they plan on portal activity.
Fair point, but I don't see much for size/talent at the nose position.
 

Baxter48_rivals204143

All-Conference
Sep 22, 2010
8,892
2,089
0
Their D line coach is a top “recruiter”. We’re going to have to develop D linemen like Nash and find area kids that want to be N. I don’t think we’ll win any bidding wars with top 5 programs.
Larry Johnson is equivalent to John Blake lots of questionable recruiting tactics
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
Would like to see 1890 and the university promote nil more. If fans knew their donations could bring in better players I think we'd see more money to nil.
They’re doing what they can. Radio ads are non-stop and I think the NIL collective mail solicits known donors. Davison no doubt solicits his contacts. I think it’s a complicated situation and we might be a little more conscientious about following the rules than some other programs. We’re not good at cheating.

I still believe that IF the right guy was there and Rhule thought we had to have him, the money would be there. IMO the NIL value rating sites are doing a tremendous disservice to college players. You know damned well lots of kids see their theoretical value then hit the portal only to be disappointed.

Guys that don’t come from very good economic circumstances can be easily convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. I see this getting worse and I don’t see any end to it.
 

WHCSC

All-Conference
Feb 4, 2002
10,789
3,598
88
They’re doing what they can. Radio ads are non-stop and I think the NIL collective mail solicits known donors. Davison no doubt solicits his contacts. I think it’s a complicated situation and we might be a little more conscientious about following the rules than some other programs. We’re not good at cheating.

I still believe that IF the right guy was there and Rhule thought we had to have him, the money would be there. IMO the NIL value rating sites are doing a tremendous disservice to college players. You know damned well lots of kids see their theoretical value then hit the portal only to be disappointed.

Guys that don’t come from very good economic circumstances can be easily convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. I see this getting worse and I don’t see any end to it.
They need to target the average fan for smaller donations. Those could really add up in our state.
 

dinglefritz

Heisman
Jan 14, 2011
51,383
12,799
78
They need to target the average fan for smaller donations. Those could really add up in our state.
thats what the radio ads that run constantly on area radio stations do. They’re doing what they can IMO. They’ve got an online presence but that’s difficult to penetrate.
 

Redscarlet

Heisman
Jun 17, 2001
32,877
10,808
113
They’re doing what they can. Radio ads are non-stop and I think the NIL collective mail solicits known donors. Davison no doubt solicits his contacts. I think it’s a complicated situation and we might be a little more conscientious about following the rules than some other programs. We’re not good at cheating.

I still believe that IF the right guy was there and Rhule thought we had to have him, the money would be there. IMO the NIL value rating sites are doing a tremendous disservice to college players. You know damned well lots of kids see their theoretical value then hit the portal only to be disappointed.

Guys that don’t come from very good economic circumstances can be easily convinced that the grass is greener elsewhere. I see this getting worse and I don’t see any end to it.
I’ve even seen billboards in Omaha promoting the 1890 NIL..
 

WHCSC

All-Conference
Feb 4, 2002
10,789
3,598
88
thats what the radio ads that run constantly on area radio stations do. They’re doing what they can IMO. They’ve got an online presence but that’s difficult to penetrate.
They need an in your hand, easy to do right now kind of thing. You can't scan a QR code to donate from a radio ad.
 

regoratsginrom

All-American
May 15, 2004
9,153
6,143
113
Would like to see 1890 and the university promote nil more. If fans knew their donations could bring in better players I think we'd see more money to nil.
You don't think fans already know that? They living in caves? The fans that don't already know/understand NIL aren't going to be the ones donating money to the collectives. "Hey honey, did you know that if we send DONU $50 we might get better players? We should do that!"