Coleman: 4 Games Played, Zero Targets

TampaBaySkers

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Sounds like Coleman is doing well compared to them then. Rhule actually getting him on the field. You can lead a horse to water.

You saw me admit I was wrong about HH. So by your standards, I’m a big person. Glad to see I live up to your standards. Maybe someday you’ll even live up to mine! 🥹
No one can live up to your standards😘
 

Scat_Back

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as expected, the only two on this list who've matched Coleman's zero catches have also played in - wait for it - zero games at Ohiost (Inniss/Rodgers)

they're redshirting

everyone else who's played in games has recorded a stat. Coleman, for some reason, has not. not a single target. I find this puzzling, and suspect many others do, too.
You don’t have to think very hard about it for it to make sense. Our offensive line blowsssss at pass pro because all that takes is one weak link and we have 2 at least. We don’t complete many passes as it is. The ones we do are designed to be quicker, the timing has to be there. It makes sense that it would need to be vets running those routes.

If we just want Coleman to run deep, I would doubt too many opportunities arise with the time to throw that ball. You saw what happened the first play last week when he was in. They can only do that so many times because it’s a very low percentage play for our offense overall, even if Coleman beats his guy and there’s time to throw it. There’s a lot more that Coleman needs to be good at than running fast and being tall to be effective in this particular brand of limited offense with the players we have. If he played for Brady’s Patriots he may have some nice stats but we are the opposite of that.
 

Suhrreal

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You don’t have to think very hard about it for it to make sense. Our offensive line blowsssss at pass pro because all that takes is one weak link and we have 2 at least. We don’t complete many passes as it is. The ones we do are designed to be quicker, the timing has to be there. It makes sense that it would need to be vets running those routes.

If we just want Coleman to run deep, I would doubt too many opportunities arise with the time to throw that ball. You saw what happened the first play last week when he was in. They can only do that so many times because it’s a very low percentage play for our offense overall, even if Coleman beats his guy and there’s time to throw it. There’s a lot more that Coleman needs to be good at than running fast and being tall to be effective in this particular brand of limited offense with the players we have. If he played for Brady’s Patriots he may have some nice stats but we are the opposite of that.

You know I was thinking the same, but then I remembered we had pretty much a worse OL last year and Trey Palmer still set the WR record for receiving. The issue is probably somewhere between young WR still trying to adjust to the physicality of college football and a QB capable of throwing the ball into the right space (while worrying about getting creamed off the edge).
 

Scat_Back

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You know I was thinking the same, but then I remembered we had pretty much a worse OL last year and Trey Palmer still set the WR record for receiving. The issue is probably somewhere between young WR still trying to adjust to the physicality of college football and a QB capable of throwing the ball into the right space (while worrying about getting creamed off the edge).
Blocking is also a huge factor since we want to be a run heavy offense. Alex Bullock is possibly the best blocker at WR on the team. We definitely run a way different offense than last year and Trey Palmer was a junior, a 5 star recruit, speed demon who is playing significant snaps in the NFL as a rookie, with Casey Thompson throwing it deep, hitting him virtually every time. It’s just not comparable in my opinion.
 

king_kong_

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Blocking is also a huge factor since we want to be a run heavy offense. Alex Bullock is possibly the best blocker at WR on the team. We definitely run a way different offense than last year and Trey Palmer was a junior, a 5 star recruit, speed demon who is playing significant snaps in the NFL as a rookie, with Casey Thompson throwing it deep, hitting him virtually every time. It’s just not comparable in my opinion.
the entire reason it's puzzling to me is he's played 4 games and we haven't even thrown him a screen or handed him a reverse.

zero targets.

our starting QB has a catch. our backup CB has 4 targets and a carry. our backup kicker has a carry.

the staff is obviously capable of drawing up plays for certain players.
 

Scat_Back

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the entire reason it's puzzling to me is he's played 4 games and we haven't even thrown him a screen or handed him a reverse.

zero targets.

our starting QB has a catch. our backup CB has 4 targets and a carry. our backup kicker has a carry.

the staff is obviously capable of drawing up plays for certain players.
I get it. Lloyd has a carry. Most of those are one-offs though. There could’ve been multiple plays drawn up for Coleman so far that just weren’t there for whatever reason. Nothing to panic about.

Hill is the one who really puzzles me.
 

cmblizz96

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I'm sure the coaches have no clue what's going on or how to use him and are watching this forum for our expert advice on how to get him involved.
 
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nostromo78

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Is MC lighting things up in practice? I assume, if he was, it would translate to the field. I have heard absolutely nothing about him or Lloyd in practice. I could have missed it though. I think its going to take some time.
 

Ki113rSk3r69

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I'm not going to fault coaches for trying to take shots downfield. You're complaining about calling a pass instead of a run for 1 play.
The only reason I question it, is that we have more success running the ball to set up the pass. The offensive line is geared towards run blocking vs. pass blocking/protection.

So it’s confusing that they would try for that when in the past (this year) we haven’t been very good pass blocking, even causing a few fumbles…
 
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JOHNNY N

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The only reason I question it, is that we have more success running the ball to set up the run. The offensive line is geared towards run blocking vs. pass blocking/protection.

So it’s confusing that they would try for that when in the past (this year) we haven’t been very good pass blocking, even causing a few fumbles…

Because you have to take shots down the field. PA on first down is a good way to get guys behind the defense. Nebraska has to do do something to lighten the load in the box. Good at it or not, you gotta show you're willing to do it.
 

dinglefritz

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except the "evidence" leaves out the fact all have played less games than Coleman, and the only others with zero catches have yet to appear in a single game.

olive branch is still extended, by the way. I think it would be good for your mental health to accept and move forward instead of letting your extremely strong feelings toward me consume you.

(takes a big person to admit when he's wrong like I did with Mickey and Grant. not everyone is capable of such maturity, so I understand if you want to continue spiraling.)
better ask your boy why he keeps targeting his roommate instead of Coleman.
 
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Louisiana Tech and Northern Illinois have worse offensive line talent than us and can use multiple receivers against us but we can’t use multiple receivers or complete deep passes against them? We have more talented receivers than them and our offense going against their defense is easier than their offense against ours. I don’t understand it.
 

king_kong_

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better ask your boy why he keeps targeting his roommate instead of Coleman.
I have yet to see any evidence of benning’s claim that he’s running open and not being seen

I did see sims take a sack instead of hitting Coleman deep for a game sealing TD game 1

If anyone has video I’d be interested, but every time I’ve seen Coleman in the game the last 2 weeks it’s been a run play with the exception of first play last week when your boy Raiola’s crew couldn’t block a G5 front for a fraction of a second
 

HankMoody78

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I have yet to see any evidence of benning’s claim that he’s running open and not being seen

I did see sims take a sack instead of hitting Coleman deep for a game sealing TD game 1

If anyone has video I’d be interested, but every time I’ve seen Coleman in the game the last 2 weeks it’s been a run play with the exception of first play last week when your boy Raiola’s crew couldn’t block a G5 front for a fraction of a second
There hasn't been much down the field camera work in most if our offensive possessions
 

Ki113rSk3r69

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Because you have to take shots down the field. PA on first down is a good way to get guys behind the defense. Nebraska has to do do something to lighten the load in the box. Good at it or not, you gotta show you're willing to do it.
That’s fine, I’m not questioning that. What I disagree with is why the first play? Especially with how the line is not very good at pass blocking. Plus there was almost, yet again, a sac fumble…
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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we throw passes

zero plays designed for him? 4 games played?

it's puzzling
have to agree.. if he's out there using up his 4 game eligibility, they should be trying to get him the ball..

otherwise, this seems like a big waste to have him out there with nothing to show for it..
 

TruHusker

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Haarberg watched Sims throw picks and he’s afraid to throw a deep 50/50 ball. He wants to see a wide open guy before he pulls the trigger. At this point it looks like Kemp and Fidone are the only guys he trusts.
The trust issue is not with the receivers.
 

dinglefritz

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Louisiana Tech and Northern Illinois have worse offensive line talent than us and can use multiple receivers against us but we can’t use multiple receivers or complete deep passes against them? We have more talented receivers than them and our offense going against their defense is easier than their offense against ours. I don’t understand it.
I’m not sure that L Tech’s top 2 receivers aren’t better WRs than what we have left.
 

JOHNNY N

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That’s fine, I’m not questioning that. What I disagree with is why the first play? Especially with how the line is not very good at pass blocking. Plus there was almost, yet again, a sac fumble…
It's a really good time to do it.
 

JOHNNY N

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have to agree.. if he's out there using up his 4 game eligibility, they should be trying to get him the ball..

otherwise, this seems like a big waste to have him out there with nothing to show for it..
Then the complainers would just complain that there’s walk on playing instead of scholarship athlete. And round and round we go.
 

redli33

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I'm sure the coaches have no clue what's going on or how to use him and are watching this forum for our expert advice on how to get him involved.

quite frankly, after the last several coaching staffs I don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt around here anymore. Sometimes people posting do know better than boneheads who've tricked an AD into hiring them.
 

huskercabby

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Are you pissed that a kid like Alex Bullock is in front of Coleman?
Actually, I am, but not for the reason you're implying. Back in the 90's Nebraska had receivers who were excellent blockers, not great receivers. Heck, in the 70's they just were used as blockers. Why? Because of the offense we ran and the lack of talent at that position. Now, our offense requires dynamic receivers. Offense last year was better. One player Trey Palmer. We don't have that this year.

The person who started this thread probably is frustrated by the build up for Coleman and then nothing. A situation that has happened at Nebraska a lot in the last 20 years. I probably could predict why Alex is starting. He's knowledgeable of the offense, great blocker, and is probably tough as nails. Great qualities, but not the dynamic receiver we need.

I don't care who starts, Bullock or Coleman, I just want a dynamic receiver.. I think we can agree that we do not have one this year. We can still win, but it's going to be harder.
 

JOHNNY N

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I disagree, especially from a “cold” start when I feel our line needs to warm up to another team’s defense. JMO
Fair enough. I liked the play call. Satterfield has to do something to keep the safeties from coming downhill.

Not sure any amount of warm-up helps the left side.
 

king_kong_

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Sorry those facts are inconvenient for you.

I will try to find a highly-rated WR at lesser schools for you. Here you go:

Ayden Williams, Ole Miss. 3 rec. 66 yards
Cordale Russell, TCU, no catches
Chris Culliver, UNC, no catches
Malik Elzy, Illinois, 3 rec. 28 yards and 1 TD
Omarion Miller, Colorado, no catches
Mikal Harison-Pilot, Houston, no catches
O Miller 3 catches, 100+ yards, TD today

And counting
 
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king_kong_

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And had zero coming in, kind of proves the point.

I wonder if they had were melting down about him not doing it from day one.
he had played at the very end of only 2 games coming in, also.

maybe a total of 20 snaps in blowouts.

Coleman has played 4 games. it does the opposite of prove your point. when his peers are in the game, they're producing. He's played in more games than all of them and has yet to see a target.

it's time we see him on the stat sheet. maybe today's the day
 
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jteten

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If healthy and he isn’t part of the game plan going forward, then I expect portal talk to become a thing. Just the nature of the beast now. And lord knows he have some serious speed deficiencies.
 

king_kong_

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Another goose egg for Coleman

Either he shouldn’t have been ranked where he was or we just have no desire to get the ball in his hands

His peers are lapping him on the stat sheet while playing in less games
 

HuskerHusaria

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Whom is this guy?? Sorry I'm kinda in the dark. Admittedly I don't have time to follow stuff.
 

HuskerHusaria

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Just a made up situation for the op to beat a dead horse over.
 

king_kong_

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Just a made up situation for the op to beat a dead horse over.
Yea our highest rated WR recruit out of high school in years (decades?) playing 5 games with zero targets is totally made up and not worth discussing despite our dearth of outside/deep threats

You’re worse than CNN. Keep the coverups coming, Mainstream Johnny!
 

JOHNNY N

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Yea our highest rated WR recruit out of high school in years (decades?) playing 5 games with zero targets is totally made up and not worth discussing despite our dearth of outside/deep threats

You’re worse than CNN. Keep the coverups coming, Mainstream Johnny!
HH should throw him the ball.
 

king_kong_

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HH should throw him the ball
Wow hard hitting analysis from Mainstream Johnny. Always someone else’s fault at CNN.

No screens? No designed plays? No handoffs?

Seems like he’s showing nothing to the staff that constitutes making him a priority

Really disappointing. Highly overrated.
 
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